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    league pass did not exist at that time so I have no personal experience of these seasons ... but they did not win in the end. and there was no compe ion like the Dubs ... they are unreal ...
    Wroooooooong...

    ... and wrooooooong.


    You must be a povertyball fan...

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    Both those teams had prime Duncan and the latter had prime Manu/entering prime Parker...not even relevant to bring up imho
    prime Leonard > prime Manu and Parker... also >>>> Stephen Jackson or Michael Finley

    Green > Bowen because Green can actually shoot threes from other places besides the corner. Both are a wash defensively.

    LMA = Duncan

    Parker now <<< Parker then, I'll give you credit for that... Manu now is basically a Brent Barry from 2005, or Manu in 2003 (his rookie year).

    Mills >> Claxton or Vaughn, those guys couldn't shoot beyond 15 feet

    Pau > Robinson or Oberto

    Dedmon = Willis or Elson

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    It's December 22, 2002. The Spurs are 17-10 and 5th place in the West, there's DAL, SAC, MIN, and UTA ahead of us. Are we contenders??


    It's December 22, 2006. The Spurs are a very distant 3rd place in the West behind DAL and PHX. Are we contenders??

    LMAO! Daring to compare this team to those teams with the Big 3 in their primes. Even for you that's ing stupid.



    Edit: Leave it to you to double down on ing stupid.

    prime Leonard > prime Manu and Parker... also >>>> Stephen Jackson or Michael Finley

    Green > Bowen because Green can actually shoot threes from other places besides the corner. Both are a wash defensively. Stop it... I'm laughing so hard I'm about to choke!

    LMA = Duncan Stupidest statement - not of the year, but ever. Seriously, the stupidest statement ever made on ST.

    Parker now <<< Parker then, I'll give you credit for that... Manu now is basically a Brent Barry from 2005, or Manu in 2003 (his rookie year).

    Mills >> Claxton or Vaughn, those guys couldn't shoot beyond 15 feet

    Pau > Robinson or Oberto

    Dedmon = Willis or Elson

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    OP dishing out Truth Cereal like a lunch lady. :props

    He just said that LMA = Duncan (in his prime). Is that truth cereal, too?

    Two ing mental midgets watching each other's backs.

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    LMAO! Daring to compare this team to those teams with the Big 3 in their primes. Even for you that's ing stupid.



    Edit: Leave it to you to double down on ing stupid.
    Jim Duncan may be the most overrated player of all time. He was a very good traditional big man inside scorer in his prime, albeit a bit lanky. Never had a solid outside or midrange jumper nor could he shoot the three-ball or space the floor. Drew a lot of fouls, not good from the free-throw line. Spoon-fed by guards for most of his baskets and points in the second half of his career. The four-down post up play the first half (and prime) of his career was far less successful in an analytical, points-per-possession sense than our current free-flowing, motion offense centered on ball movement. Solid interior defender, though had his issues with size and never guarded the biggest elite centers in the game. Never was very athletic, agile, or fast unlike other PFs of his generation including Kevin Garnett and Dirk Nowitzki.

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    UNT makes like 30 an hour so just extrapolate that 1200 x 52 and he's only 22

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    It's a D'Antoni team. Empty calories.

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    prime Leonard > prime Manu and Parker... also >>>> Stephen Jackson or Michael Finley

    Green > Bowen because Green can actually shoot threes from other places besides the corner. Both are a wash defensively.

    LMA = Duncan

    Parker now <<< Parker then, I'll give you credit for that... Manu now is basically a Brent Barry from 2005, or Manu in 2003 (his rookie year).

    Mills >> Claxton or Vaughn, those guys couldn't shoot beyond 15 feet

    Pau > Robinson or Oberto

    Dedmon = Willis or Elson
    only people who dont know about ball try to use the "x <<<< y" argument for determining better teams tbh and CROFL @ lma = prime Tim Duncan because if that was the case spurs would be the ing le favorites easily you trolling. then again i know you're like 20 years old and certainly don't remember what 2003 duncan was like, tbh

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    He just said that LMA = Duncan (in his prime). Is that truth cereal, too?

    Two ing mental midgets watching each other's backs.
    OK sometimes he takes it overboard. He should have said kawhi=Tim and Manu+Tony=Patty+LMA.

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    OK sometimes he takes it overboard. He should have said kawhi=Tim and Manu+Tony=Patty+LMA.
    That dude just said "Jim Duncan is the most overrated... of all time". He also constantly talks about the team, says the Cowboys are his #1 and the Spurs are his filler time and wishes for them to lose.
    Yeah... he ing sucks as a poster and always has. Jump off the deck before it catches fire.

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    That dude just said "Jim Duncan is the most overrated... of all time". He also constantly talks about the team, says the Cowboys are his #1 and the Spurs are his filler time and wishes for them to lose.
    Yeah... he ing sucks as a poster and always has. Jump off the deck before it catches fire.
    Dude is a got. But I agree with OP's assessment of the Spurs right now.

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    Dude is a got. But I agree with OP's assessment of the Spurs right now.

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    Just looking at that weak-assed by Aldridge tonight. Every bit as good as Duncan.


    Jim Duncan may be the most overrated player of all time.

    You now own the two stupidest things ever said on ST. You're on a roll.

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    Just looking at that weak-assed by Aldridge tonight. Every bit as good as Duncan.





    You now own the two stupidest things ever said on ST. You're on a roll.
    Shut yo ass up.

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    WTF? No. From 2002-06, Duncan was a God-tier player. As good as Dirk and Garnett were, Duncan was next-level.

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    Pof.com is DOWN for everyone.
    It is not just you. The server is not responding...

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    WTF? No. From 2002-06, Duncan was a God-tier player. As good as Dirk and Garnett were, Duncan was next-level.
    Duncan could only score on the inside though, and a lot of his buckets were spoonfed, more than almost all other HOF big men. He couldn't shoot midrange worth a damn and refused to spot up for three.

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    Duncan could only score on the inside though, and a lot of his buckets were spoonfed, more than almost all other HOF big men. He couldn't shoot midrange worth a damn and refused to spot up for three.
    Ugh...awful take. He was only the best post player of his generation, so even if that was his only scoring position, that's not a bad thing. But you forget he actually did develop an excellent midrange jumper around 2011. He changed his game to fit the motion offense.

    But seriously, watch some youtube videos of Duncan in 2002. He was a ing monster. Prime LMA doesn't hold a candle to Prime Duncan, much less current LMA.

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    Ugh...awful take. He was only the best post player of his generation, so even if that was his only scoring position, that's not a bad thing. But you forget he actually did develop an excellent midrange jumper around 2011. He changed his game to fit the motion offense.

    But seriously, watch some youtube videos of Duncan in 2002. He was a ing monster. Prime LMA doesn't hold a candle to Prime Duncan, much less current LMA.
    He was a terrible midrange jump shooter late in his career, actually. He was good at hanging around the rim and getting spoonfed layups and finishing, but I wanted to cringe every time I saw him try to face up and take his man himself in the post (he's nearly always get blocked or miss badly) post 2008 or so.

    Duncan's best year of midrange jump shooting (as per the eye test, I have no stats to back it up but it's just what I saw) was actually around 2005. IIRC he made a couple big jumpers in the 4th quarter of game 7 against the Pistons to help win the championship that year. Also was reliable against teams like Phoenix, Seattle, and helping us win a record 38 home games that year. That was the best Spurs team ever.

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    He was a terrible midrange jump shooter late in his career, actually. He was good at hanging around the rim and getting spoonfed layups and finishing, but I wanted to cringe every time I saw him try to face up and take his man himself in the post (he's nearly always get blocked or miss badly) post 2008 or so.

    Duncan's best year of midrange jump shooting (as per the eye test, I have no stats to back it up but it's just what I saw) was actually around 2005. IIRC he made a couple big jumpers in the 4th quarter of game 7 against the Pistons to help win the championship that year. Also was reliable against teams like Phoenix, Seattle, and helping us win a record 38 home games that year. That was the best Spurs team ever.
    Yes his jumper fell off after 2013, but he became a pick and pop player in the Parker-led offense. It was even acknowledged by Pop that he adjusted his game.

    Why do you believe he was spoon fed most of his points?? That's bull , man. I can understand if you didn't watch basketball 15 years ago, but know that you've been misinformed. He was a terrific one-on-one scorer in his prime, and he quarterbacked the offense from the post. The entire offense revolved around him. He was a great passer out of the post, and he even had an excellent dribble-drive game in his younger years. He was the opposite of a one-dimensional player like Amare Stoudemire, who actually was spoon fed most of his points by Nash.
    Last edited by Arcadian; 12-23-2016 at 12:24 AM.

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    Yes his jumper fell off after 2013, but he became a pick and pop player in the Parker-led offense. It was even acknowledged by Pop that he adjusted his game.

    Why do you believe he was spoon fed most of his points?? That's bull , man. I can understand if you didn't watch basketball 15 years ago, but know that you've been misinformed. He was a terrific one-on-one scorer in his prime, and he quarterbacked the offense from the post. The entire offense revolved around him. He was a great passer out of the post, and he even had an excellent dribble-drive game in his younger years. He was the opposite of a one-dimensional player like Amare Stoudemire, who actually was spoon fed most of his points by Nash.
    That was one of his best redeeming qualities. He got a lot of turnovers doing that in about 2002 when teams were zone-happy on defense all of a sudden after they allowed zones to return to the NBA, but adjusted in 2003 and that helped us score more points, commit less turnovers and ultimately win the championship. I do remember those crisp passes out to Stephen Jackson for those threes in the 4th quarter of the Nets Game 6 that helped us win that le.

    You've got to acknowledge, however, that Duncan always had his limitations. At best he was an average mid range shooter for a big man, and far worse than an elite one like Webber or Nowitzki or Malone. He also wasn't a brute force dominator like a Shaq, nor was he an athletic dynamo like Amare, Garnett, or early David Robinson/Shawn Kemp. Duncan was very good, no doubt, but he wasn't necessarily special at anything, nor was he the type to take over and dominate a game. Case in point, his career high was only a meager 53 points (in an OT game we lost!) and he very seldomly even approached 50 outside of that one. Didn't ever come close to 60.

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    The Clipstars own the SA s in the ass. Embrace this bitter truth, and welcome it into your heart.

    So the secret to the Spurs winning a championship this year is to avoid the Clippers at all costs? I mean, they are obviously contenders, so long as they don't have to play the Clippers. Golden State... Cleveland? No problem. Just not the Clippers.

    Oooh, I hate those ing Clippers.


    Duncan was very good, no doubt, but he wasn't necessarily special at anything, nor was he the type to take over and dominate a game.
    Well the good news is, your other two posts have now moved down to the #2 and #3 stupidest things ever said on ST.

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    Well the good news is, your other two posts have now moved down to the #2 and #3 stupidest things ever said on ST.
    name me/post me a game where he did... a game with Stephen Jackson and Speedy Claxton bailing the Spurs out with a bunch of clutch contested jumpers in a row doesn't count...

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    Amen brother

    UNT Eagles 2016 is the most unbiased and real spur fan Ive seen on this forum

    Jim was a system player that was carried by Pop and by Tony parker later in his career

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    Kobe and Pop together win at least 8 championships

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