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This.
Spurs ain't going to land a FA SG that can catch fire any game,
for what they going to pay Patty.
Agree with the order of signing.
Patty first.
Then Dedmon.
Gasol is last.
Yes, I think he deserves to get paid.. and I have stated in other threads also that I think he's priority for the Spurs and they will pay him.Man, is there anybody ST thinks deserves to get paid? Always wanting 'hometown discounts'. As if MVPaddy hasn't been ridiculously underpaid the past three years. I even remember people talking about Kawhi getting the max extension.
The dilemma with Dijon's inexperience and Tony looking TOSB is still going to be there whether Patty is in the team or not and without Patty they will be worse off. And it's not like the Spurs will land an "ace" FA in the offseason. Keeping Patty may be the best move they can make realistically.
I'd like to keep Dedmon too.
I am willing to let Simmons go. It's unknown what the market is for him and Dijon is looking like a similar player in terms of being a slasher, etc and is a lot, lot, lot younger with more upside just due to his length and youth. I would not let Mills go to keep Dedmon and Simmons, that is just me I guess. I'd want Dedmon and not Pau though... who can guess what RC and Pop do?
This.
Spurs ain't going to land a FA SG that can catch fire any game,
for what they going to pay Patty.
Agree with the order of signing.
Patty first.
Then Dedmon.
Gasol is last.
We got lucky Patty had a shoulder injury last contract, that was a discount in it of itself.
I hope we pay him. He's a great teammate in addition to his obvious on court contributions
The Spurs don't need to sign Gasol. That decision is entirely his. He has a player option. I would love to be able to keep both Patty and Deadman, though. But I don't think the Spurs will be able to.
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Moreover, on a team that is likely to lose +/- 40 years of experience in 3 seasons, Patty would be one of the senior statesmen and a primary conduit of "corporate knowledge. Frankly, after Manu and Tony, Patty is the team leader.
i see patty staying.
wouldn't blame him if he really wants to start though. knicks should go after him.
LOL no . MVPatty should be able to pull 4 years, $60 million in this market. Maybe more. He already had injury screw him out of market value in the summer of 2014, so no way this summer he isn't going for the kind of money he's showing he's worth with his stellar play this season.Man, is there anybody ST thinks deserves to get paid? Always wanting 'hometown discounts'. As if MVPaddy hasn't been ridiculously underpaid the past three years. I even remember people talking about Kawhi getting the max extension.
To quote teddy KGB
"pay him, pay that man his money".
It's great to see that his shooting is back. It took him a long time to regain form. It wasn't even certain that he'd be the same. Good for him that he's been able to get it back.
I also recall reading in the off-season that he was not happy with how he played against OKC and it left a bad taste in his mouth. He worked hard during the off-season to come back a better player.
Worth it.
PATFO can dump Pau's contract on the Wolves who were trying to sign him this summer. They have the cap space to absorb his contract ala Tiago/Hawks & Boris/Jazz.
True, I was just pointing out that Pau was in a different category from Patty and Deadman. We don't need to recruit and sign Pau. He can take or leave what's essentially already on the table. If Pau were to opt in, then PATFO could, indeed, move his contract. But would they? I am not certain they would.
They moved Boris so I don't see why they wouldn't move Pau if he opted in greedily against the PATFO wishes. Maybe, he could have a wink-wink deal w/ the Wolves where he opts-out & gets a 2-year 24 mill contract.
That would be the best possible scenario for the Spurs - no cap holds, no nothing - just cap space.
Patty is going to get paid, but silly money isn't floating around this summer like it was last summer. No huge cap e plus teams will need to put aside more money for rookie deals, minimum salary deals and exceptions will be more expensive too.
Had Dedmon and Patty been FAs heading into this past summer, the numbers may have looked even sillier. Teams simply don't have the same cap space to spread among all of the FA to be. Remains to be seen what it means for this year. It may have no impact on Patty/Dedmon but only on lesser players.
I maintain that he probably re-signs and does so for less than many think (4/$40M?).
I'd be surprised if anyone views him as a starter. He's too limited a play maker and too small to be a 3 and D type and Bayless and Dellavedova are bad examples . . .
Bayless: 76ers had an insane amount of cap space and a terrible rep from being historically bad and not signing legit NBA players for 3 years.
Dellavedova: As a 3 and D type, he's an ideal compliment to a point forward such as Antetokounmpo.
Unfortunately, Dedmon is probably gone due to his lack of bird rights. Simmons is probably slightly more likely to be gone, as any somewhat expensive offer sheet probably pries him loose. Partially because of the presence of Murray, but also because the combination of him and Anderson isn't going to cut it as 3rd and 4th wings.
4/40 is a slap to the face tbh.
I love Patty but he, like Parker, is a stop gap until we solve the next PG riddle.
I'm implying he'll take a hometown discount (though I also think the league doesn't value his ilk quite as highly as a lot of you think). There's too many parallels between him and Green, both from the player and team perspective, to ignore.
What would the Spurs have to do to keep Deadmon?
I'd let Patty go if the price is too high. I'm thinking 10 million per season, maybe a bit more, but anything over 12+, I'd let him go.
I'd drop parker next year for Patty and Dedmon. Ask him a choice of teams to go to.
His production to price is just too much for a 3rd string pg.
It would be hard to watch if the Spurs had to let Patty and Dedmon go (who both can command $12-15 million) because Gasol and Parker are sitting on $31 million in cap space.
Once Patty and Manu leave, the entire bench is going to .
I suspect the time for going after FA was the past two off-season. They even has to shed the team's depth to add Lamarcus and Gasol. Luckily the guys they shed were done like Tiago (injuries) Diaw (bobcat Diaw regression) Cojo (missed but Patty has been healthy and Cojo was going to be too good for a 3rd string guard anyway, he's better off in Toronto for himself), Marco (Spurs missed him but he got paid as well).
They can't keep going at this rate with shedding roleplayers who are producing for them. They will attempt to keep their guys. They may just be unable to retain them all and will have to prioritize.
patty is averaging more points than tony on less shots and is shooting the ball better. he should be playing more minutes than tp and his FGA should be higher than tony's too.
Just one of several reasons that I believe the Spurs cannot afford to let Patty go. Plus, especially in the coming absence of Tony and Manu, Patty will be the vocal leader and primary conduit of Spurs culture.
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