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He's definitely top 5, if not top 3. And he's better than Steph Curry....which is the primary reason why Cleveland defeated the Warriors in the finals last year.
IMHO........ but Westbrook is right there.
He's definitely top 5, if not top 3. And he's better than Steph Curry....which is the primary reason why Cleveland defeated the Warriors in the finals last year.
Lots of dumb casuals popping up after christmas game....
Great 1 on 1 talent, but would be a cancer in any other setting, tbh..
Coming into Monday night, the Philadelphia 76ers and Brooklyn Nets were tied for the worst record in the league at 7-22, a paltry .241 winning percentage. Meanwhile, the Cleveland Cavaliers rested LeBron James for the second night of a back-to-back after he had played 40 minutes on Christmas Day. The Cavs were summarily waxed 106-90 by the Detroit Pistons.
What’s the correlation between the cellar-dwelling Sixers and Nets and the defending champs? The loss dropped Cleveland’s record to just 4-18 in games in which James didn’t play since the start of the 2014-15 season, when he returned for a second stint with the franchise. That’s a winning percentage of just .182.
That’s right. Without James, the Cavs play worse than the worst teams in the league.
Which is todays NBA, but anyhow, I watched Kyrie take over in the last few minutes. Key shots, 3-4 steals and the nail in the coffin AGAIN shot. Kyrie plays best when it counts the most.
That doesn't make him the best PG. Best clutch-time player? Probably. Best PG?no...
Not even close. Westbrook, Paul, Harden, Curry, Kemba and Wall are all better than him. Without LeBron, he would easily be seen as a tier below those guys. He is probably the most clutch player in the league though.
Harden is a stat padder enjoying the fruits of D'Antoni's labor. And Wall is horrible.
Just speaks to the greatness of LeBron that people would even think this.
He's up there. If anything he's become underrated playing in Lebron's shadow (judging by the posts in this thread, at least).
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Wall? Nah. The others have a case.
Top 5
Better PG than Porker....
Insert about 30 other names.
You mean just like Kirby?
The Cavs in '13-'14 had the same record as the '04-'05 Lakers.
tbf if you take any team's best player off the team they would be awful. IE Spurs without Kiwi, Rockets without Harden, etc
Would love for them to add 1 vs 1 and 2 vs 2 tournaments in the all star game. A guy like Kyrie would dominate. He's not better than Steph, Westbrook, CP3, or Harden tho. Better on offense than guys like Lowry and Wall, but Lowry and Wall are better defenders. Tough to rank tbh. Where would you guys rank Isaiah Thomas?
I wouldn't say cancer but he needs an unselfish superstar like James to take away the primary playmaKing duties ...
What's with all this kyrie love? Most aesthetic game in the league sure, but he has the 2nd GOAT by his side...definitely takes a world of pressure off of him.
I agree
Harden would beat Kyrie 1-on-1 b/c Kyrie has no chance on defense but Harden can get a stop if he puts in the effort.
Isaiah is basically what Kyrie would have been if he was a midget.Where would you guys rank Isaiah Thomas?
Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 12-28-2016 at 03:19 AM.
How tall is Harden? 6'6"? They'd probably do like boxing and have different classes by height(instead of weight)..6''0-6'4...6'5-6'7..6'7-6'9, etc or something like thatHarden would beat Kyrie 1-on-1 b/c Kyrie has no chance on defense but Harden can get a stop if he puts in the effort.
Isaiah is basically what Kyrie would have been if he was a midget.
and yeah that's why he came to mind
Durant is basically the ultimate 1-on-1 guy b/c he can basically get stops against midgets like Isaiah to bigs such Davis while being able to get his shot off over anyone.
If you have ever seen the summer pick-up games, Durant averages like 60 pts b/c he's unstoppable when there is no pressure to win the game.
I don't consider him a point guard because he's shoot-first, not pass-first. He's like the modern day Iverson.
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