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    We basically have three major powers in the world...The US, Russia, and China.

    Does it make sense to have a cold war style adversarial relationship with Russia while forcing them into a closer relationship with China?

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    We basically have three major powers in the world...The US, Russia, and China.

    Does it make sense to have a cold war style adversarial relationship with Russia while forcing them into a closer relationship with China?
    Why don't these lib s understand that we want a respectful relationship with them. Not the bull Obama and Hillary have been spouting.

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    "we want a respectful relationship with them"

    bull

    USA + NATO used Ukrainian neo-Nazis to overthrow Pootin's puppet, US missiles in Eastern Europe are pointed at Russia, and US has encircled Russia with other US installations.



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    Are you stuck to that idea, or do you deny other possibilities?
    We basically have three major powers in the world...The US, Russia, and China.

    Does it make sense to have a cold war style adversarial relationship with Russia while forcing them into a closer relationship with China?
    Why don't these lib s understand that we want a respectful relationship with them. Not the bull Obama and Hillary have been spouting.
    Remember when you two were up in arms when Obama asked Medvedev for "space" and "more flexibility after the election"?

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    Remember when you two were up in arms when Obama asked Medvedev for "space" and "more flexibility after the election"?
    Please furnish the quote where I was "up in arms".

    Back up your bull claim or shut the up.

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    Please furnish the quote where I was "up in arms".

    Back up your bull claim or shut the up.
    Its an educated guess based on probability. You've whined like a about everything Obama's done for the last eight years

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    I was just blowing smoke out of my ass and making up.

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    "we want a respectful relationship with them"

    bull

    USA + NATO used Ukrainian neo-Nazis to overthrow Pootin's puppet, US missiles in Eastern Europe are pointed at Russia, and US has encircled Russia with other US installations.


    My God.

    Just when I think you can't get any more stupid, you do!

    Yanukovych was nobody's puppet. The UN had unreasonable demands in exchange to help the Ukraine, that the parliament voted NO on the demands. Because of this, Yanukovych asked Russia for help. That's why the criminal elements of the Ukraine committed treason in overthrowing him. They are ethnic bigots, and would take no deal with Russia. Obama supports the treason!

    This has been brought up over and over.

    Just how brain-dead are you?

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    Pootin has "turned" Assange, too, just like Trash

    Julian Assange has kind words for Donald Trump, says Russia has “vibrant” criticism of Vladimir Putin’s government

    Assange comes out with big praise for journalism in Russia, where critical journalists have been murdered


    http://www.salon.com/2016/12/27/juli...ns-government/


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    Remember when you two were up in arms when Obama asked Medvedev for "space" and "more flexibility after the election"?
    Huh?

    No, I don't recall any such exchange.

    Link please.

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    Its an educated guess based on probability. You've whined like a about everything Obama's done for the last eight years
    No wonder you are so ing stupid...

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    My God.

    Just when I think you can't get any more stupid, you do!

    Yanukovych was nobody's puppet. The UN had unreasonable demands in exchange to help the Ukraine, that the parliament voted NO on the demands. Because of this, Yanukovych asked Russia for help. That's why the criminal elements of the Ukraine committed treason in overthrowing him. They are ethnic bigots, and would take no deal with Russia. Obama supports the treason!

    This has been brought up over and over.

    Just how brain-dead are you?
    looks like Pootin has "turned" WC, too. This is amazing, and hilarious.

    Why did Pootin invade Ukraine after his puppet was deposed?

    Is there a US Vets For Pootin org you can join?

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    Are you stuck to that idea, or do you deny other possibilities?
    I never said that was prohibitive, dim.

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    I never said that was prohibitive, dim.
    What if Putin was reacting to what Obama and Hillary publicly said they wanted to do against Putin?

    Has that ever crossed that pea brain of yours?

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    Obama administration is close to announcing measures to punish Russia for election interference

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...t-draw7&wpmm=1

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    Lindsey Graham shoots down Trump’s denials: 99 senators believe Russia behind DNC hacks

    Republican Senator Lindsey Graham (SC) said Tuesday that President-elect Donald Trump was wrong to deny that Russian hackers interfered with the 2016 election in the United States.

    “There are 100 United States senators,” Graham said during a CNN interview. “I would say that 99 of us believe the Russians did this and we’re going to do something about it. … After this trip is over, we’re going to have the hearings and we’re going to put sanctions together that hit Putin as an individual and his inner circle for interfering in our election.”

    The senator went on to accuse Russia of interfering with democratic elections all over the world.

    US officials have reportedly told congressional leaders that Russian intelligence agencies had targeted the Democratic Party ahead of the election

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/lind...e+Raw+Story%29

    "Russia of interfering with democratic elections all over the world."

    ... the American Empire hates the Russians muscling in on, interfering in countries' elections because America knows that's America's exclusive, multi-decade right.



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    Lindsey Graham shoots down Trump’s denials: 99 senators believe Russia behind DNC hacks

    Republican Senator Lindsey Graham (SC) said Tuesday that President-elect Donald Trump was wrong to deny that Russian hackers interfered with the 2016 election in the United States.

    “There are 100 United States senators,” Graham said during a CNN interview. “I would say that 99 of us believe the Russians did this and we’re going to do something about it. … After this trip is over, we’re going to have the hearings and we’re going to put sanctions together that hit Putin as an individual and his inner circle for interfering in our election.”

    The senator went on to accuse Russia of interfering with democratic elections all over the world.

    US officials have reportedly told congressional leaders that Russian intelligence agencies had targeted the Democratic Party ahead of the election

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/lind...e+Raw+Story%29

    "Russia of interfering with democratic elections all over the world."

    ... the American Empire hates the Russians muscling in on, interfering in countries' elections because America knows that's America's exclusive, multi-decade right.


    When did the CIA release their findings to congress?

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    When did the CIA release their findings to congress?
    Ask Lindsey

    of course, patterned on AGW denials, that 1 Senator is enough for Pootin lovers to doubt totally the CIA/NSA/FBI as false.

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    Ask Lindsey

    of course, patterned on AGW denials, that 1 Senator is enough for Pootin lovers to doubt totally the CIA/NSA/FBI as false.
    Don't need to ask Lindsey, congress hasn't been briefed by the CIA.

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    if nothing official, I'm sure there's been plenty of leaking.

    And clearly, Assange went after Hillary, and this week has been praising Pootin and Russia.

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    Susan Rice: The Press Did Not Give Russian Hacking the Coverage It Deserved

    National Security Advisor Susan Rice wishes that the press had spent more time on Russian hacking during the 2016 campaign.
    Rice spoke with the hosts of BuzzFeed’s Another Round podcast and discussed just how well the U.S. understands cyber threats from abroad.

    She pointed to that October statement from the intel community concluding that Russia was interfering in the election, and expressed some criticism of how the press didn’t exactly jump all over it:

    “I do think that the fact that the press found it more interesting at the time to report on Secretary Clinton’s emails or President-elect Trump’s, you know, videotaped comments about women, or a large number of other issues, is, in retrospect, probably a missed opportunity.

    And the fact that they did not focus on this issue to the extent that we thought they would and they should is something that I think the press needs to do some introspection about.”

    Rice acknowledged that there were “other things going on” in the campaign that the press was focused on, but she wishes the intel assessment received the “sustained attention that it deserved.”

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/susan...e-it-deserved/

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    Don't need to ask Lindsey, congress hasn't been briefed by the CIA.
    how would you know? were Congressional committees briefed?

    given the gravity of the allegation and the proximity of the election, it would be odd for Congress to be left totally in the dark.

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    In the Repug insane ideology of hate govt.

    Ex-GOP lawmaker: Trump needn’t rely on US intelligence agencies — he can get info from foreign governments



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    ppearing on CNN, a former head of the House Intelligence Committee said President-elect Donald Trump should feel free to use intelligence information given to him from foreign governments in lieu of what his own intelligence agencies will be providing him.

    Appearing on The Situation Room, former Congressman Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) flabbergasted host Jim Sciutto by saying U.S. intelligence agencies can provide “biased information,” before asserting Trump could also rely on information provided by foreign intelligence agencies.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/ex-g...e+Raw+Story%29



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    how would you know? were Congressional committees briefed?

    given the gravity of the allegation and the proximity of the election, it would be odd for Congress to be left totally in the dark.
    Nothing has changed as far as I can find since two weeks ago.





    The Intelligence Community (IC) is refusing to provide the House Intelligence Committee with a requested Thursday briefing on Russian interference with the U.S. election, citing an ongoing review of the matter requested by President Obama.
    According to a statement, the IC will not be offering comment to Congress until it completes that review, which will cover foreign interference in the electoral process since 2008.
    "Once the review is complete in the coming weeks, the Intelligence Community stands ready to brief Congress — and will make those findings available to the public consistent with protecting intelligence sources and methods," the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) said in a statement.
    The Obama review is scheduled to be completed by the time Donald Trump takes office on Jan. 20.


    http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...ussian-hacking

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    what about beforehand?

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