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    Probably wouldn't have been 0-6 though. Lmao

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    No, I don't think he's played with both Gasol and Aldridge. And Anderson has played the bulk of his minutes, technically, as a 2 this year. And someone SHOULD take it up with Pop.
    Yeah I just did a rundown of lineups and Davis has played with Lee and Dedmon on three or so occasions but they seem to be of the trash final-minutes-of-the-game variety.

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    Not to mention WestBrick is built like a DB while Murray is probably the lightest 6'5" player in the league.
    He must have meant their playstyles are similar...

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    damn, the Warriors are destroying the Raptors 22-4 right now
    The Duds are playing MAD after they blew the Christmas game & you would rather be down 22-4 as opposed to the other way around (unless they have tired legs) since they tend to play sloppy w/ double digit leads while the avalanche is tough to stop when they are locked in trying to cut into a lead.

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    Too be honest he was comparing him to rookie Westbrook who wasn't the monster he is now

    I love Sean as a commentator, and he's earned the right to make any comparison he wants to. But while Murray has looked good in garbage time the last two games, he sure as hasn't looked like Westbrook. Even a rookie Westbrook.

    You guys do realize that Westbrook started all 82 games as a rookie, played full starter minutes, and averaged something like 15 ppg? He may not have been the beast he is today, but to compare him to Murray doesn't even make sense. I'll give the kid time to develop, but Westbrook came into the league a LOT more developed.

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    Yeah I just did a rundown of lineups and Davis has played with Lee and Dedmon on three or so occasions but they seem to be of the trash final-minutes-of-the-game variety.
    probably of the variety when Pop subs guys in and out and for a brief minute or so, there is a strange lineup.

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    I love Sean as a commentator, and he's earned the right to make any comparison he wants to. But while Murray has looked good in garbage time the last two games, he sure as hasn't looked like Westbrook. Even a rookie Westbrook.

    You guys do realize that Westbrook started all 82 games as a rookie, played full starter minutes, and averaged something like 15 ppg? He may not have been the beast he is today, but to compare him to Murray doesn't even make sense. I'll give the kid time to develop, but Westbrook came into the league a LOT more developed.
    They're not comparing stats. They're comparing the type of player.

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    You have a good point with Anderson playing the 2...
    Again, I have only seen Davis be a big. He just had 3 fouls in 3 minutes... by the way. And I am not trying to get on you GSH. I want to see Davis... I am not trying to be facetious...

    I've said it several times, and I'll say it again. Kyle needs to put on some muscle and play as a 4 that can put the ball on the floor and pass. He's not a 3, and he sure as isn't a 2. And I don't understand Pop at all.

    Meanwhile, I would LOVE to see Bertans at least get some time as a SF. If he fails, he fails. But there have been opportunities to try it out.

    And if people still don't think that he's in Pop's doghouse, then he just needs to be cut, because he's not going to play a role anyway.

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    Westbrook has the body of a prime wade but faster, and stronger.

    He's one of the most unique athletes to ever play...Murray is athletic, but guy has no strenght.

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    They're not comparing stats. They're comparing the type of player.

    Try really, really hard to listen to what I'm saying. It's too ing early to compare the type of player Murray is to the type of player Westbrook is (or was). Westbrook was putting in 30+ minutes per game as a rookie. We KNEW what type of player he was by this point in his first season. Murray has mostly looked like a D-League player, except for these couple of good performances in garbage time. He may develop. But what I said was that it's PREMATURE to be comparing him to Westbrook. And it is.

    Other than the fact that they both went to UCLA for two years, and maybe the fact that Murray is very athletic, it's just premature to make that comparison. Argue all you want.

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    Try really, really hard to listen to what I'm saying. It's too ing early to compare the type of player Murray is to the type of player Westbrook is (or was). Westbrook was putting in 30+ minutes per game as a rookie. We KNEW what type of player he was by this point in his first season. Murray has mostly looked like a D-League player, except for these couple of good performances in garbage time. He may develop. But what I said was that it's PREMATURE to be comparing him to Westbrook. And it is.

    Other than the fact that they both went to UCLA for two years, and maybe the fact that Murray is very athletic, it's just premature to make that comparison. Argue all you want.

    Come on got. Don't double dip. Give us a take. What is his ceiling.

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    A lot of ya gots post but never take a side. That's why no one respects ya.

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    Sean Elliott starting fights between ST posters. Timmay is right about him.

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    I've said it several times, and I'll say it again. Kyle needs to put on some muscle and play as a 4 that can put the ball on the floor and pass. He's not a 3, and he sure as isn't a 2. And I don't understand Pop at all.

    Meanwhile, I would LOVE to see Bertans at least get some time as a SF. If he fails, he fails. But there have been opportunities to try it out.

    And if people still don't think that he's in Pop's doghouse, then he just needs to be cut, because he's not going to play a role anyway.
    You have good points on both accounts.
    I don't know what to tell you other than what I have seen.
    I haven't thought is Davis in the doghouse... Pop really sees him as a big and the team's bigs have been great. Kyle is an 11th or 12th guy in the rotation which is a step down from his last season and he hasn't been playing as well as he did last season. Part of that may be that Pop was playing him as a 2 indeed too much. I have thought he could be traded myself.

    For Davis, Pop can't take Lamarcus or Lee from the game. I mean even in the dleague they played Bertans as a big and he was that in summer league as well. I just haven't ever seen him be a wing and that is not his path for playing time as far as I have seen.

    Anyways, we shall see. With this Nico waiver, Spurs might yet be rummaging either with dleague prospects or might be taking phone calls for a trade.

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    Uh oh Raptors within 12

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    Come on got. Don't double dip. Give us a take. What is his ceiling.

    Oh, I think he'll be way better than Jordan - just like you think Kawhi is right now.


    Slurp, slurp.

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    Oh, I think he'll be way better than Jordan - just like you think Kawhi is right now.


    Slurp, slurp.
    Who said kawhi was better than Jordan, got?

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    Raptors down 5

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    Leonard has gastroenteritis?????

    A bum stomach, hahahahahahahahaha

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    He must have meant their playstyles are similar...
    I would say he's more similar to another big point-guard (Reggie Jackson) who is actually a pretty underrated athlete & has a huge wing-span. Reggie couldn't really shoot & was/is a combo guard who could get into the paint at will b/c of his speed/quickness (he has floaters like Murray). He was a pretty good rebounder in college & was averaging 5 rebs per 36 when he was in OKC before he became a full-blown diva.

    Reggie at the same age had an undeveloped body but he filled out just fine & is one of the bigger PG in the league. Murray might have better handles but Reggie has a killer left to right crossover which allows him to blow by defenders.

    Murray should easily be a better defender since he isn't a diva like Reggie who doesn't put forth the effort.

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    No one in basketball is as athletic as Westbrook.

    -----------------------------------------

    If Westbrook somehow joined the Spurs.......................

    The NBA would tremble, literally, hahahahahahahahha

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    Westbrook and Leonard could challenge Jordan and Pippen, hmmmm.....

    just my crazy opinion

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    I would say he's more similar to another big point-guard (Reggie Jackson) who is actually a pretty underrated athlete & has a huge wing-span. Reggie couldn't really shoot & was/is a combo guard who could get into the paint at will b/c of his speed/quickness (he has floaters like Murray). He was a pretty good rebounder in college & was averaging 5 rebs per 36 when he was in OKC before he became a full-blown diva.

    Reggie at the same age had an undeveloped body but he filled out just fine & is one of the bigger PG in the league. Murray might have better handles but Reggie has a killer left to right crossover which allows him to blow by defenders.

    Murray should easily be a better defender since he isn't a diva like Reggie who doesn't put forth the effort.
    Good appraisal.

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    How did Murray do today guys??

    failed to watch the game

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    Like the Jennings comparison better. Dude's going to dominate the summer league next year. Hope the team gets a shooting wing to run with him and Milutinov.

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