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    Whens PED testing coming tbh? Karl keeps giving in this book talking about NBA Ped use
    Might have to buy his book.

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    Karl put Kobe on blast:

    "I'm talking about performance-enhancing drugs—like steroids, human growth hormone, and so on. It's obvious some of our players are doping. How are some guys getting older—yet thinner and fitter? How are they recovering from injuries so fast? Why the are they going to Germany in the off-season? I doubt it's for the sauerkraut.

    "More likely it's for the newest, hard-to-detect blood boosters and PEDs they have in Europe.
    Unfortunately, drug testing always seems to be a couple steps behind drug hiding. Lance Armstrong never failed a drug test. I think we want the best athletes to succeed, not the biggest, richest cheaters employing the best scientists. But I don’t know what to do about it."

    http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/g...problem-122716

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    Someone has to blink first. Armstrong was surrounded by dopers who just weren't as good as him. Take all the dope away, the results are likely the same. People like Landis who overdo it noticeably after hitting a ing wall like he did are going to stick out but the professional world is full of people like Bonds and McGwire who made a fortune doping, and they were surrounded by guys who doped as well but weren't as committed to it. The new game, for a few decades, is doping. That's a fact. Might as well embrace it and see who dies first.

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    Wish some high profile NBA player coach would nutt up and call it at the time it's happening.

    Not just to out obvious frauds like Bryant, but I mean c'mon SpurFan lets not be Homers.
    Kawhi completely natural? Timmy Duncs resurgence from 2009-12 to 2013/14s back to back Championships? If it was all hard work and diet, great. But you can't blame it all on ty coaching and rigged reffing. Chance they PED'd too.

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    LeBron's gonna get outed

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    Kobe started those Germany trips

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    smh all the self righteous dipsticks who belittled Canseco.
    Huge cups of STFU for them.

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    It's an interesting thought. Just like baseball suffered after losing all those homeruns, do we really want the insane power and athleticism of guys like LBJ and Russ gone?

    I'd prefer to not give a and enjoy the show.

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    Athletes doping is like pros utes walking the streets. It's not the fun part, it kills your body, but if you don't do it you don't get paid.

    Look at the physique of players now vs 20 years ago. Body building and fitness have existed for decades but why are only seeing the results now?

    Look at the unusual number athletes with jutting jaw lines, receding hairlines, ridiculous wolverine like recovery times and these crazy builds. None of them are natural.

    I'm positive every team in the league dopes. Duncan I'm not sure he does because he doesn't have much definition like most players in today's league does but I won't be surprised he does.

    Guys like wade, lebron, Kobe, Dwight, and Pedo are just too obviously dopers. No one can have such long physical primes in a game where athleticism rules supreme while their games were based mostly on superior athleticism (speed, strength).

    If Larry bird had access to those drugs he would still dominate into the early/mid ninties and lebron will still be considered the second best SF of all time. The only reason lebron > bird is due to longevity.

    If magic had any PEDe though he'd probably would have retired earlier because he'd have contacted HIV earlier with longer more intense orgies with more partners.

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    If magic had any PEDe though he'd probably would have retired earlier because he'd have contacted HIV earlier with longer more intense orgies with more partners.
    rack it.

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    I read Karl exposing pedos. Wrong Karl tbh.

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    Let them dope up, make the game more fun to watch.

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    Lol Karl stating the obvious to sell a book

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    NostraSpurMus phxspurfan's Avatar
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    LeBron's gonna get outed
    He already got outed in game 1 finals 2014

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    Athletes doping is like pros utes walking the streets. It's not the fun part, it kills your body, but if you don't do it you don't get paid.

    Look at the physique of players now vs 20 years ago. Body building and fitness have existed for decades but why are only seeing the results now?

    Look at the unusual number athletes with jutting jaw lines, receding hairlines, ridiculous wolverine like recovery times and these crazy builds. None of them are natural.

    I'm positive every team in the league dopes. Duncan I'm not sure he does because he doesn't have much definition like most players in today's league does but I won't be surprised he does.

    Guys like wade, lebron, Kobe, Dwight, and Pedo are just too obviously dopers. No one can have such long physical primes in a game where athleticism rules supreme while their games were based mostly on superior athleticism (speed, strength).

    If Larry bird had access to those drugs he would still dominate into the early/mid ninties and lebron will still be considered the second best SF of all time. The only reason lebron > bird is due to longevity.

    If magic had any PEDe though he'd probably would have retired earlier because he'd have contacted HIV earlier with longer more intense orgies with more partners.
    We doped in the high school locker room at clark. Of course they dope. Anybody remeber Androstenone


    Edit theyre probably gonna say creatine is a PED at some point too.
    Last edited by phxspurfan; 12-28-2016 at 11:54 PM.

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    Lol Karl stating the obvious to sell a book
    meh better late then never.
    At least he is willing to bring up the subject.

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    Wade's jawline has always been the most obvious.


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    I think I've mentioned this in an older thread some time ago, but on NBA tv a couple years back, there was a round table type show with a bunch of old guys like Reggie Miller, Isaiah Thomas, Barkley, Etc...

    There was a segment where they talked about how they adjusted to getting older and not recovering as quickly and I distinctly remember Isaiah saying the coaches gave them some to drink to give them an extra gear for the long season.

    He casually went on to say whatever it was they gave him to drink is considered a PED now

    if you think these s are 100% natty

    Preferably I'd like them to just take PEDs that help with recovery, not give them a significant athletic gain, but as long as it's an even playing field(safe to assume it is, when was the last time an NBA player was suspended for juicing?)I couldn't care less. This is an entertainment sport anyway.

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    I understand the debate about athletes not using PED's in MMA or boxing because you're beating eachothers heads in but I never understood banning PED's in sports given that its not a bad apple here and there anymore. It's all of them and wasnt MLB having its greatest year ever when everyone was juiced to the gills?

    Let em have HGH and roids...who gives a ? Bill Burr says it well at the end of this video at the 8:16 mark


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    Suggesting NHL players are on PEDs will get you a ton of angry white male fans on your ass tbh

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    youd have to be an idiot to think Kobe was taking PEDs lmao hes the most skilled player ever

    LeRoids, DWhistle and Dwight Howard tho

    We know Jim didnt have any testosterone in him tho or else he wouldnt have lost his girl to some mexican midget lmao

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    I think I've mentioned this in an older thread some time ago, but on NBA tv a couple years back, there was a round table type show with a bunch of old guys like Reggie Miller, Isaiah Thomas, Barkley, Etc...

    There was a segment where they talked about how they adjusted to getting older and not recovering as quickly and I distinctly remember Isaiah saying the coaches gave them some to drink to give them an extra gear for the long season.

    He casually went on to say whatever it was they gave him to drink is considered a PED now

    if you think these s are 100% natty

    Preferably I'd like them to just take PEDs that help with recovery, not give them a significant athletic gain, but as long as it's an even playing field(safe to assume it is, when was the last time an NBA player was suspended for juicing?)I couldn't care less. This is an entertainment sport anyway.
    The last time the NBA suspended players for drug related abuse was when the rockets and mavs were threatening the lakers Celtics rivalry.

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    MJ, Kobe, Lebron: All dopers.

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    I understand the debate about athletes not using PED's in MMA or boxing because you're beating eachothers heads in but I never understood banning PED's in sports given that its not a bad apple here and there anymore. It's all of them and wasnt MLB having its greatest year ever when everyone was juiced to the gills?

    Let em have HGH and roids...who gives a ? Bill Burr says it well at the end of this video at the 8:16 mark

    Of course, people like Ken Caminitti died from that sh**. But ya know, chicks dig the long ball and all that stuff.....

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    Athletes doping is like pros utes walking the streets. It's not the fun part, it kills your body, but if you don't do it you don't get paid.

    Look at the physique of players now vs 20 years ago. Body building and fitness have existed for decades but why are only seeing the results now?

    Look at the unusual number athletes with jutting jaw lines, receding hairlines, ridiculous wolverine like recovery times and these crazy builds. None of them are natural.

    I'm positive every team in the league dopes. Duncan I'm not sure he does because he doesn't have much definition like most players in today's league does but I won't be surprised he does.

    Guys like wade, lebron, Kobe, Dwight, and Pedo are just too obviously dopers. No one can have such long physical primes in a game where athleticism rules supreme while their games were based mostly on superior athleticism (speed, strength).

    If Larry bird had access to those drugs he would still dominate into the early/mid ninties and lebron will still be considered the second best SF of all time. The only reason lebron > bird is due to longevity.

    If magic had any PEDe though he'd probably would have retired earlier because he'd have contacted HIV earlier with longer more intense orgies with more partners.
    you for th as the last paragraph, Amb ..
    But happy new year ...my brother...regardless.

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