Church of Kyle Anderson

[Mr. Body]

The guy that kept Bonner around for 10 years?

Ok dip . Fathead is trash

Yeah, you're a genius.

[CGD]

Dude just needs to concede that he's not a 3, bulk up, and start playing at the 4.

[GSH]

Clever lol.. I honestly am confused as to what kind of player Anderson is now. I'm not sure of his iden y... He can look good one game, then seem like a different (worse) player the next. And that's not to say other guys aren't inconsistent, but they still have an iden y and are playing their game and struggling. Anderson seems like a different player some nights, still trying to find himself.

I've had the discussion with a couple of the Kyle-fans, but I'm not even sure what position he plays. When he got here, people kept saying that he could play the point. A LOT of people speculate since then that he could be a Kawhi backup. He's spent the bulk of his minutes this season as a backup 2. He's 6'10" tall, gets a lot of rebounds, and seems to make sense as a 4 - provided he gets a little bigger and stronger.

So exactly what the is he? What position is he here to fill?

[gospursgojas]

Remember last game when he dribbled into traffic about the freethrow line area and jumped in the air and passed the ball to out of bounds?

[Chinook]

I thought the same long ago... for real...
soon after the season started and he wasn't shooting like he did in summer league I thought he needed to go back to the dleague to get a wake up call with how aggressive he needed to be with his shooting.
Not sure what Pop is doing with him, maybe nothing really.

Pop would never make Anderson go to Austin in his third year. He still can due to the 2011 CBA, but he won't. Kyle should ask for it. Maybe if the Spurs sign Pato for the next two weeks (until the guarantee deadline), he could convince Anderson that going down makes the most sense, while also giving Garino a clear lane to playing time (only having to take minutes from Simmons). , combine that with a Manu rest day to open up even more time.

[gospursgojas]

Pop would never make Anderson go to Austin in his third year. He still can due to the 2011 CBA, but he won't. Kyle should ask for it. Maybe if the Spurs sign Pato for the next two weeks (until the guarantee deadline), he could convince Anderson that going down makes the most sense, while also giving Garino a clear lane to playing time (only having to take minutes from Simmons). , combine that with a Manu rest day to open up even more time.

Problem is Kyle dominates in D league, then comes to the big boy table and does .

[Chinook]

Problem is Kyle dominates in D league, then comes to the big boy table and does .

That's not a problem. The problem would be if he went down and was awful like Cabocolo is for Toronto.

[100%duncan]

Yet he was a positive in last night's game even without scoring. He's further along than Joseph was at this point.

LOL.

Cory Joseph on his 2nd season who just managed to play 28 games (not because of Patty because he was also a benchwarmer that time IIRC) is better than kyle anderson on his 3rd season

Per game:
CoJo 2nd season: 2PA FG% 50.6% EFG% 49.1%
Fathead 3rd season: 2PA FG% 40.8% EFG% 45.1%

This despite all the fuss about him being a high bball IQ player, bigger, longer, and supposedly just has more physical prowess that Cojo had

In his first legitimate NBA season where he was actually played by Pop Cojo raised almost all his fg% while Fathead, with all his supposed improvements managed to shoot worse in 2’s, overall fg’s, EFG

So not only was a 2nd year Cory Joseph better than a 3rd year Fathead, 3rd year Cory Joseph is ahead of him in lightyears in terms of improvement and actual importance to the team. He was considered as a legitimate back-up pg the whole year, splitting minutes with Patty, and had a respectable contribution in the playoffs as compared to Mr. Improvement who’s treated as the 15th guy of the team

[100%duncan]

And don’t get me started on defense

[Mr. Body]

LOL.

Cory Joseph on his 2nd season who just managed to play 28 games (not because of Patty because he was also a benchwarmer that time IIRC) is better than kyle anderson on his 3rd season

Per game:
CoJo 2nd season: 2PA FG% 50.6% EFG% 49.1%
Fathead 3rd season: 2PA FG% 40.8% EFG% 45.1%

This despite all the fuss about him being a high bball IQ player, bigger, longer, and supposedly just has more physical prowess that Cojo had

In his first legitimate NBA season where he was actually played by Pop Cojo raised almost all his fg% while Fathead, with all his supposed improvements managed to shoot worse in 2’s, overall fg’s, EFG

So not only was a 2nd year Cory Joseph better than a 3rd year Fathead, 3rd year Cory Joseph is ahead of him in lightyears in terms of improvement and actual importance to the team. He was considered as a legitimate back-up pg the whole year, splitting minutes with Patty, and had a respectable contribution in the playoffs as compared to Mr. Improvement who’s treated as the 15th guy of the team

KA has more of assign impact on the game than Joseph did at this point. The only thing Anderson isn't doing well at this point is score, so big ing deal.

[100%duncan]

KA has more of assign impact on the game than Joseph did at this point. The only thing Anderson isn't doing well at this point is score, so big ing deal.

“my re ed opinion”> statzzz

“big ing deal”

assign impact who is he actually sent to guard against? Cojo was played against starting PG’s at some points in time when Parker couldn’t hold his own

You moron

[Mr. Body]

And don’t get me started on defense

He blows assignments but his length is proving an asset. Stop hating.

[TheGreatYacht]

If this is where you're at in your third year in the NBA, there's pretty much not else you could do BUT improve.... I guess

[SAGirl]

Pop would never make Anderson go to Austin in his third year. He still can due to the 2011 CBA, but he won't. Kyle should ask for it. Maybe if the Spurs sign Pato for the next two weeks (until the guarantee deadline), he could convince Anderson that going down makes the most sense, while also giving Garino a clear lane to playing time (only having to take minutes from Simmons). , combine that with a Manu rest day to open up even more time.

Frankly, the way Garino has looked he's not an NBA player. He's struggling down there. He got outplayed by two guys who made the roster over him this past fall (Forbes and Nico, one of whom has looked very marginal in the NBA and the other was waived). Forbes just scored 35 points in a dleague game but the team lost... Garino? 4, plus he had just the 1 rebound and 4 PF... do not be mistaken... I think those campaigning on Garino's behalf are fanboys...
http://dleague.nba.com/games/20161228/TEXAUS/ I liked Garino but he still has a lot to work on. But maybe there are others out there.. I don't know.

Anyways, I suppose Kyle will dominate there like he did when he was 21.. ppl forget about it, but his first game in the dleague he had 18, 11 and 6 and the team won... on better efficiency than Dijon and less TO... Bertans wasn't even having games like that.. sure he can jack off 10 3s in a game and make 4-6 of them, but he doesn't rebound or get you 6 assists in a game. And I don't want to rain on the Davis parade either... Point is Kyle is too good for the dleague. Rook kyle's first dleague game (very little NBA experience at the time too, Dijon like level experience):


Anyways, I am rambling... but the point is the only reason I saw he needed that was his reluctance to shoot. I thought if he was sent to play strictly off the ball with Dijon.... and he was compelled to jack off 3s, even though that is not his game he would catch a rhythm... He's going to have to get over his reluctance to shoot off the catch... no matter what spot he plays in the Spurs, anything from the 2 to the 4, or if he's traded. Ultimately it is for his benefit. He doesn't even have to work on the other areas of his game since they are irrelevant for Spurs right now and they don't need them. It might help him to just go jack shots and catch a rhythm. Again I don't know what Pop's plan is with him and if they are just fine with him as he is or if he's satisfied with himself. I don't think that he is, but he's not a cancer and will do whatever Pop asks as best as he can, but he surely needs to shoot more.

[dabom]

i specifically remember a ty poster say Fathead was gonna be the X-factor such as scoring one on one in the WCFs.

[SAGirl]

He blows assignments but his length is proving an asset. Stop hating.

I like the dude 100%duncan but he's a self-confessed Kyle hater and he won't get off that wagon...
I would just ignore the trolling from him since he's otherwise a nice dude... my advice.

[dabom]

I like the dude 100%duncan but he's a self-confessed Kyle hater and he won't get off that wagon...
I would just ignore the trolling from him since he's otherwise a nice dude... my advice.

Let me ask you one thing. Simple question. Do you think Kyle could be the Xfactor(one on one scoring) in a Warriors Spurs matchup?

[Mnky]

I just saw the Portland game, and boy did he have an awful outing.

The thing about Kyle is that he is Kawhis relief. His proponents want to treat him like he's a third string end of bench guy, but on this team, that's not what he's expected to be. You have to judge him on what is expected of him, and as first forward behind Kawhi, he isn't doing his job well. Kawhis standard may make it more obvious to his shortcomings, but as a backup, he doesn't provide many useful traits. Anything that is a strength of his, is pretty average if decent at the NBA level.

He needed to get smaller and quicker or bigger and strong to fill the tweener position. He didn't do either in three years.

This leans towards his work ethic. It's hard to believe after 3 NBA years, he hasn't developed much at all physically either way. If anything, he looks less involved and reactive than he did his first year.

As a third stringer, I wouldn't mind too much with upside still available at his age and experience. He's the main backup though, and as such he isn't doing a very good job.

[100%duncan]

I like the dude 100%duncan but he's a self-confessed Kyle hater and he won't get off that wagon...
I would just ignore the trolling from him since he's otherwise a nice dude... my advice.

Please tell me how providing stats and argumentation is trolling

Or do you agree that 3rd year Kyle Anderson is better than 3rd year Cory Joseph, when CoJo’s 2nd year stats show that he’s better than this year’s Head?

[SAGirl]

Please tell me how providing stats and argumentation is trolling

Or do you agree that 3rd year Kyle Anderson is better than 3rd year Cory Joseph, when CoJo’s 2nd year stats show that he’s better than this year’s Head?

Love you dude but I have become pretty immune to troll baiting on Kyle... not even going to reply.

[100%duncan]

Love you dude but I have become pretty immune to troll baiting on Kyle... not even going to reply.

Stats=trolling



bbbut his length and bball iq!!!!

[SAGirl]

Stats=trolling



bbbut his length and bball iq!!!!

ok
dude whateva... been on this forum too long to recognize the troll bait and it does nothing for me... we can chat about anything else though.

[TimDunkem]

Stats=trolling



bbbut his length and bball iq!!!!

You're not allowed to talk facts about Fathead with SAGirl unless you include at least one kind thing about him in your post.

[GSH]

Anyways, I suppose Kyle will dominate there like he did when he was 21.. ppl forget about it, but his first game in the dleague he had 18, 11 and 6 and the team won... on better efficiency than Dijon and less TO... Bertans wasn't even having games like that.. sure he can jack off 10 3s in a game and make 4-6 of them, but he doesn't rebound or get you 6 assists in a game. And I don't want to rain on the Davis parade either... Point is Kyle is too good for the dleague. Rook kyle's first dleague game (very little NBA experience at the time too, Dijon like level experience)

Have you watched Cory Jefferson, or at least seen any clips of him in Austin? If D-League success translated into NBA success, he'd be on the Spurs' roster already, and getting decent minutes. Sonofa has been impressive... there.

Kyle's success in D-League has almost nothing to do with NBA play, now or in the future. Jimmer was pretty damned flashy in D-League, too. It's one thing to talk about him going there to get some work, or gain/regain some confidence. But when you start looking at his D-League stats, you're on the road to nowhere.

Pop would never make Anderson go to Austin in his third year. He still can due to the 2011 CBA, but he won't. Kyle should ask for it. Maybe if the Spurs sign Pato for the next two weeks (until the guarantee deadline), he could convince Anderson that going down makes the most sense, while also giving Garino a clear lane to playing time (only having to take minutes from Simmons). , combine that with a Manu rest day to open up even more time.

I sometimes wonder if we are even watching the same game. You watched LJC in SL and preseason, and saw someone who was not only going to make the Spurs' roster, but contribute. You're apparently watching Garino in the D-League and seeing someone who could take minutes away from Simmons? Neither one of those guys have been tearing it up in Austin. I know I just said that success in the D-League doesn't necessarily translate into NBA success, but that doesn't make it Opposite Day. Someone who's not playing well in Austin isn't going to play better in the NBA. I'm hopeful that Garino will improve, and I'm glad he's getting work in the D-League. But he hasn't shown much that would let him take minutes from Simmons.

[Brazil]

i never made fun of curry, i just think he chucks the ball to much makes bad shot selection to me but still a caliber NBA player. Kyle still has many years to go. i didnt bash curry. Also Curry has about 7 years in the nba while kyle has 2 years.

I missed this gem tbh....