Fox Sports: Will San Antonio Spurs Change Course And Trade Mid-Season?

[james evans]

Whatever happens, I just hope Gasol is gone

[ceperez]

I like the idea of trading for Ibaka and even Bogut.

Spurs defense is pathetic because they don't have good rim protection when guards funnel their man to the paint.

BTW....that Ibaka Gordon for Aldridge trade was my idea that I posted a while back ago!

[cd98]

I think it would be a mistake for the Spurs to trade any first round picks. This roster doesn't need any trades unless there is a clear no brainer trade. None of the proposed trades make sense for a le contender.

[cd98]

Also, for everything Bogut may give you on defense (assume he doesn't get injured), he kills you on offense. Pau has the capacity to learn the team defense and be an adequate rim protector, but Bogut will always be a huge liability on offense.

[ceperez]

Also, for everything Bogut may give you on defense (assume he doesn't get injured), he kills you on offense. Pau has the capacity to learn the team defense and be an adequate rim protector, but Bogut will always be a huge liability on offense.

What about the Ibaka for Aldridge idea. Ibaka will still give you a 3 point shot and better rim protection. However, he's not going to be effective like Aldridge with back to the basket plays.

[Russ]

How about player development. Bogans. Simmons. Even Murray.

In the tradition of Mills, Green and Jack, one or more of them will have to step up for the Spurs to have any chance.

[james evans]

What about the Ibaka for Aldridge idea. Ibaka will still give you a 3 point shot and better rim protection. However, he's not going to be effective like Aldridge with back to the basket plays.

Ibaka only kills us on offense regularly. Don't let that fool you. If we get that er he would suck just as bad as RJ

[Chinook]

How about player development. Bogans. Simmons. Even Murray.

In the tradition of Mills, Green and Jack, one or more of them will have to step up for the Spurs to have any chance.

Bogans, eh?

[Darius Bieber]

, me and RobDiaz could produce better Spurs coverage than this garbage.

[r0drig0lac]

even a st poster would have made it better

[Darius Bieber]

Bogans, eh?

Keith making a comeback.

[Joseph Kony]

What a terrible write up. Those trades are laughable. Bogut would be decent if he's healthy but wouldn't trade much for him outside of KA tbh

[james evans]

What a terrible write up. Those trades are laughable. Bogut would be decent if he's healthy but wouldn't trade much for him outside of KA tbh

i agree. Bogut every game is one fall from being out for the rest of the season.

[LittleCriminal]

Anderson/forbes for Pj Tucker would be nice.

[SpursIndonesia]

Also, for everything Bogut may give you on defense (assume he doesn't get injured), he kills you on offense. Pau has the capacity to learn the team defense and be an adequate rim protector, but Bogut will always be a huge liability on offense.

We might see a more effective Verde, MVPatty, or even Kawhi with those dirty yet never called picks & screens Bogut provided. And he's not too shabby as a roll man for TP & Manu PnR game. Another side of the coin, i guess.

What about the Ibaka for Aldridge idea. Ibaka will still give you a 3 point shot and better rim protection. However, he's not going to be effective like Aldridge with back to the basket plays.

If he can go Dirkbaka in the playoff, that would be good enough to redeem some offensive production loss, and Pau might like the chance to hoard all the big man post up opportunities without LMA to compete against.

[Kawhitstorm]

I don't know why you keep thinking going thru a lottery team's garbage is a good idea

Last I checked Dedmon was rotting on the bench on a lotto team.

Have you seen the Mavs or Suns this season?

Did you see the Magic last season?

The guys you want, TOSB Chandler and TOSB Bogut don't even average ONE block a game. They also most certainly don't bring on the other end of the ball..

TOSB Chandler aka high IQ DeAndre:

-Better finisher than DeAndre: http://stats.nba.com/players/advance...1&CF=MIN*GE*10
-Just as good a rebounder as DeAndre: http://stats.nba.com/players/advance...1&CF=MIN*GE*10
-FYI: Chandler has NEVER been a guy that camps in the paint & block hunts like Whiteside but rather he's a mobile center who plays team defense like Chris Bosh. He only averaged 1.1 blocks during the Mavs championship season & recently he has been playing on ty defensive teams who make him look bad similar to Kawhi this season.

TOSB Bogut aka closest thing to TOSB Timmay:

-Leads the league in defensive rating: http://stats.nba.com/players/defense...gular%20Season
-4th in the league in block percentage,but he doesn't block shots: http://stats.nba.com/players/defense...gular%20Season
-2nd in the league in defensive rebounding: http://stats.nba.com/players/advance...gular%20Season
-Leads the league in charges drawn: http://stats.nba.com/players/hustle/...ES_DRAWN&dir=1
-FYI: Bogut can actually score in the post w/ simply hook-shots similar to Robin Lopez who man handled Pau in the paint. He can pass as well as Pau & set MUCH better screens similar to Timmay. Besides, he can actually catch lobs unlike TOSB Timmay who himself couldn't score outside the paint.

Lets also not get into Deron Williams who is currently leading the 29th worst offense in the league.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's his fault the best player on the Mavs is Harrison Barnes.

After shooting 38.7% from the floor two seasons ago he's followed it up with 41.4% & 40.3% shooting seasons

Yeah, he was getting the same WIDE OPEN looks Simmons/Fat Head get on a regular basis & pass up. Why don't you check Marco's shooting percentage w/ the Kings after he shot a career high w/ the Spurs the previous season.

All they need is Deron running PnP's w/ Softrigde:

Among players that try to score in at least 5 PnR possessions where they are the ball handler, Deron is ranked 5th in EFG% basically tied w/ Lillard/Harden: http://stats.nba.com/players/ball-ha...&CF=PossG*GE*5

Him and Bogut have the durability of late 2000's Yao Ming.

As if your boy Porker is any more durable.

[DAF86]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jg9wa6b

Paul George, Jeff Teague, Monta Ellis and Al Jefferson for Aldridge, Parker, Gasol and a first rounder.

San Antonio gets: The best player in the trade and a starting caliber PG.

Indiana gets: To shake things up, an all-star level PF, a first rounder and the chance to get rid of two awful contracts like Montas and Jeffersons.

I know this has no chance of happening, but how do you feel about this trade for the Spurs?

Rotation for the Spurs:

SL: Teague, Green, Kawhi, George, Dedmon
2U: Mills, Manu, Monta/Simmons, Lee/Bertans, Jefferson

[spurs1990]

The San Antonio Spurs are currently second in the Western Conference and are heading for another 50-win season.

Speaking of wins - they would have to go 33-17 to not win 60 games this year.

I went through the next 50 game schedule and I barely see 13 likely losses.

[cd98]

What about the Ibaka for Aldridge idea. Ibaka will still give you a 3 point shot and better rim protection. However, he's not going to be effective like Aldridge with back to the basket plays.

Ibaka is a free agent next year which means it's either a one year rental or we'd have to max him to keep him. Ibaka isn't a max player. If you don't want LMA bc he costs too much, not sure why you'd want Ibaka. Plus getting Ibaka would cost us a first rounder.

[south side spur]

Ibaka is a free agent next year which means it's either a one year rental or we'd have to max him to keep him. Ibaka isn't a max player. If you don't want LMA bc he costs too much, not sure why you'd want Ibaka. Plus getting Ibaka would cost us a first rounder.

So this is why I posted this article for the most part. I was intrigued by that Orlando deal. I haven't really kept up with Orlando so I was surprised Hezonja had fallen out of the rotation. Again, I wasn't around this board much for that 2015 draft but the proposed trade has him coming to the Spurs as well.

Are we saying scouts missed that bad on this kid or is it just the fact that he's only 21 and not being developed properly. Would he be a steal in this deal? How high were the Spurs on this kid Hezonja?

Essentially, it would be Ibaka for Aldridge with Ibaka's contract coming off the books so that gives the Spurs cap flexibility and the first rounder which will be what? 28? 29? This Hezonja kid isn't even worth THAT?

[SAGirl]

I doubt it.
In all likelihood any trades are happening in the off-season...

[Russ]

How about player development. Bogans. Simmons. Even Murray.

In the tradition of Mills, Green and Jack, one or more of them will have to step up for the Spurs to have any chance.

Perhaps celebrating the New Year too soon.

Bertans, I meant.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Trade Leonard for a dominant big man?

[MaNu4Tres]

Ibaka is a free agent next year which means it's either a one year rental or we'd have to max him to keep him. Ibaka isn't a max player. If you don't want LMA bc he costs too much, not sure why you'd want Ibaka. Plus getting Ibaka would cost us a first rounder.

Plus, Ibaka is really 30-31 years old, not 27.

[BillMc]

Plus, Ibaka is really 40-51 years old, not 27.

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