Church of Kyle Anderson

[Mr. Body]

He has been vs all contenders. The thing about playing a contender is that they will take advantage off a pick n roll switch and attack lateral deficient players. So he has ZERO ing offensive impact. He is actually a negative impact player on offense. And then, he has length to play defense outside of one on one. So what do smart teams do, attack his ass one on one since he has ZERO ing lateral movement. Outside of the RS, he shouldn't be played. How hard is it for ing people to ing understand.

Um, yeah, you genius, I'm saying he's good for eating up minutes right now. Maybe he gets better, maybe not, but I'm not advocating postseason play so calm the down and learn how to read.

[south side spur]

Potential is not based on age. I'm not sure why so many people buy into this media centric idea.

Dedmon is 27, and still not near his potential because he has not played a lot of basketball. Your argument, in the case of age, would be that Kyle has more potential because he's younger? That's just laughable.

They are comparable, just like anyone is comparable, but their path and growth are far from similar. Simmons has grown leaps and bounds over Anderson, who was the legitimate better NBA player when Simmons signed on. People said then, that he was too old to develop, and Kyle had more potential due to age, these were mostly Kyle fans, simply because they don't really know much about basketball tbh. If you don't have much experience and plenty of ability, that's potential. Simmons doesn't have much experience and plenty of ability. Simmons coaches were never anything legitimate.

Anderson went to a legitimate program, and was a first round pick. He has momentum of experience. He also had skills such as rebounding and passing. That wasn't the potential, the potential was to evolve as an athlete and player in the NBA. He hasn't done that. It's okay to point out the facts about Kyle. He isn't playing well, and hasn't developed much. Those are just facts.

Maybe it is laughable but let's not act like organizations don't value younger players exponentially more when compared to acquiring journeymen. You are correct though age isn't the end all be all when potential is concerned.

I assume you are saying that Simmons will eventually develop into a more productive player than Anderson? Simmons may have grown leaps and bounds more than Anderson has but he's not a more productive player when looking at the metrics. I'm not certain that Simmons hasn't already fulfilled his potential I guess we'll have to wait on that.

I have no issue pointing out Anderson's faults. Yes, I've been a fan of his but I agree with your sentiment that his development has not been what we hoped for.

[Capt Bringdown]

You can't say the Spurs haven't given him opportunities. He's just not a ball player.

[HarlemHeat37]

His defense is nice, tbh..maybe he can carve out an Mbah a Moute career..

[100%duncan]

His defense is nice, tbh..maybe he can carve out an Mbah a Moute career..

Isn’t Mbah an athletic player tho

[HarlemHeat37]

Isn’t Mbah an athletic player tho

They were nothing alike in college, but Anderson is currently a plus defender-horrible offensive player..

[Mnky]

Maybe it is laughable but let's not act like organizations don't value younger players exponentially more when compared to acquiring journeymen. You are correct though age isn't the end all be all when potential is concerned.

I assume you are saying that Simmons will eventually develop into a more productive player than Anderson? Simmons may have grown leaps and bounds more than Anderson has but he's not a more productive player when looking at the metrics. I'm not certain that Simmons hasn't already fulfilled his potential I guess we'll have to wait on that.

I have no issue pointing out Anderson's faults. Yes, I've been a fan of his but I agree with your sentiment that his development has not been what we hoped for.

Simmons is already a more productive player than Anderson. Anderson used to be the better NBA player. That's how bad Simmons playing was when he first came in. He had all the athleticism and hardly any of the skill of an NBA players. People have also been saying simmons has 'fullfilled' his potential since his first year, which is just a re-skin of the original argument that he doesnt' have the potential of a younger player.

He's a legitimate backup in the NBA, whereas Anderson has not played like one. Metrics, I assume you're talking about hiding in the corner and picking up rebounds that fall between him and another spurs player. He has a good plus minus, because he plays with arguably the best starting front court in the NBA. kawhi and LMA haven't had too many games where they are outscored by opposing starters, thus the great record. When he plays with Manu and Patty, manu and patty have been lights out recently and he has just been a bystander. That's a different story with Simmons in.

When anderson is on the floor, the other team doesnt notice, when Simmons is, the other team realizes and HAS to be ready for him. Simmons has the ability to make the other team notice he's on the court, and mentally have to adjust for it. Anderson is nothing like that at this point.

I've been a fan of anderson since we drafted him, as he offered unique characteristics, but as I've said before, his character does not seem like one who wants to make the most of his opportunities. He seems much too soft, which is why, in my opinion, he excels in the d-league where most the players are as slow as him or can't outjump his reach and its' like he's playing with little brothers. He has had time to show he wants to be an integral part of the system, and has had more opportunities than most young guys get coming into the spurs system. He hasn't made much of them to this point. I still think he could develop, but to me it's more of a mental thing and he can't afford to be weak there as he's already physically outmatched by players.

[GSH]

They were nothing alike in college, but Anderson is currently a plus defender-horrible offensive player..

There's room in the NBA for a guy who can play D and work the boards. If he can really shoot 40% from 3 (and I think he can) then maybe there's a place for him. Then his ball-handling skills and any work he can do around the basket are a bonus. I have a lot of respect for the Spurs FO/coaches, but this time I think they held onto the idea of him being a point-forward for too long.

[dabom]

There's room in the NBA for a guy who can play D and work the boards. If he can really shoot 40% from 3 (and I think he can) then maybe there's a place for him. Then his ball-handling skills and any work he can do around the basket are a bonus. I have a lot of respect for the Spurs FO/coaches, but this time I think they held onto the idea of him being a point-forward for too long.

[SAGirl]

There's room in the NBA for a guy who can play D and work the boards. If he can really shoot 40% from 3 (and I think he can) then maybe there's a place for him. Then his ball-handling skills and any work he can do around the basket are a bonus. I have a lot of respect for the Spurs FO/coaches, but this time I think they held onto the idea of him being a point-forward for too long.

I think Pop not really having a set spot for him was a hindrance... he filled up a lot of holes with guys injured last season and Pop really started the season (again) not knowing how to play him or where to play him, instead of as you say... just put him in a very simple role... let him focus on that and once he does those things well enough the other parts of his game would come to life... He (and Pop) went about it the other way, he wanted to do everything else without first fulfilling the necessary role of taking the open shot.

A lot of my recent posts have really been about that. I really think that is what got him in the doghouse to begin with. He knows what he needs to do... but he's having to change his game a lot from what he previously was... and that transformation is not quite there mentally.. though I think they have leaned on him hard enough, and his being in the doghouse has put pressure on him enough to know if he's passing up shots at this point he's going to back to the doghouse and maybe out of the team if he doesn't change his trajectory.. so I think the pressure is very real in his mind to shoot when open. My chat with you was actually of him having to get more used to shooting off the catch.. He started off the complete opposite of that.

I thought a visit to the dleague and a bit of just pure unadulterated chuckorama would get him in rhythm mentally.

[south side spur]

Simmons is already a more productive player than Anderson.

Metrics, I assume you're talking about hiding in the corner and picking up rebounds that fall between him and another spurs player. He has a good plus minus, because he plays with arguably the best starting front court in the NBA. When he plays with Manu and Patty, manu and patty have been lights out recently and he has just been a bystander.


He seems much too soft, which is why, in my opinion, he excels in the d-league where most the players are as slow as him or can't outjump his reach and its' like he's playing with little brothers. I still think he could develop, but to me it's more of a mental thing and he can't afford to be weak there as he's already physically outmatched by players.

Honestly, I've never really been an advocate of metrics, it's really been guys like the kawhidiots who motivate me to do some research. I wasn't talking about plus/minus because I agree with you it makes "bystanders" look better.

I just wanted to look at the advanced stats and see if Anderson was as terrible as most on this board believe. I just wanted to see if I was missing something because I don't think we can just go on the eye test if there is any doubt.

I've heard the efficiency rating isn't everything but I assume that's mainly when your preferred player has a lower rating than another. Anderson has a slightly higher PER. I'm not saying that makes him more productive but it definitely doesn't make him less productive compared to Simmons.

Anderson's rebounding, block and steal stats are better. Simply put it's his length and that shouldn't be used against him. He's a good rebounder and defender overall. I really don't think we should discredit that.

When I say comparable I mean they're virtually identical in VORP and Win Shares as are most of the Spurs outside Kawhi. Simmons has a slightly higher True Shooting%. The one stat that separates them is Usage. So Anderson is the better defender and Simmons is the better offensive player.

I agree with your assessment of him being soft or weak. I thought Anderson would've been stronger by now but back to the potential argument. Can he get stronger? That's probably the one area where he should be able to improve without a doubt.

Regarding his mental state, he's getting the same wide open shots he got in summer league he just isn't making them. It's obvious he doesn't have the confidence he needs on the offensive end but again, can he develop that?

So that's all I meant about them being comparable or similar in their productivity it's just they produce on opposite ends of the court.

[sasaint]

Simmons is already a more productive player than Anderson. Anderson used to be the better NBA player. That's how bad Simmons playing was when he first came in. He had all the athleticism and hardly any of the skill of an NBA players. People have also been saying simmons has 'fullfilled' his potential since his first year, which is just a re-skin of the original argument that he doesnt' have the potential of a younger player.

He's a legitimate backup in the NBA, whereas Anderson has not played like one. Metrics, I assume you're talking about hiding in the corner and picking up rebounds that fall between him and another spurs player. He has a good plus minus, because he plays with arguably the best starting front court in the NBA. kawhi and LMA haven't had too many games where they are outscored by opposing starters, thus the great record. When he plays with Manu and Patty, manu and patty have been lights out recently and he has just been a bystander. That's a different story with Simmons in.

When anderson is on the floor, the other team doesnt notice, when Simmons is, the other team realizes and HAS to be ready for him. Simmons has the ability to make the other team notice he's on the court, and mentally have to adjust for it. Anderson is nothing like that at this point.

I've been a fan of anderson since we drafted him, as he offered unique characteristics, but as I've said before, his character does not seem like one who wants to make the most of his opportunities. He seems much too soft, which is why, in my opinion, he excels in the d-league where most the players are as slow as him or can't outjump his reach and its' like he's playing with little brothers. He has had time to show he wants to be an integral part of the system, and has had more opportunities than most young guys get coming into the spurs system. He hasn't made much of them to this point. I still think he could develop, but to me it's more of a mental thing and he can't afford to be weak there as he's already physically outmatched by players.

I was a fan of both Anderson and Simmons from their first SL game. I even coined a term, "Spurs TNG" because I thought they could become Spurs lifers. I am really encouraged by Simmons' progress this season, and I hope that he will solidify his spot as a regular rotation player - perhaps even become the sixth man. He has worked hard to play within the framework of the offense, and it shows. You could feel Simmons' restraint earlier this season. Now he seems like he is becoming comfortable enough to go back to some of his natural tendencies. When he fully develops the vision to know when to go with the flow of the offense and when to go with his individual athleticism, he will be a good NBA player.

With Kyle, you are right - I just don't see that Kyle shows much determination or grit or fire. Whatever real intensity I have seen from the guy has come on the boards - and that all too infrequently. Now, maybe the coaches, in trying to make him a Boris 2.0 just threw too much at him too fast and neutralized whatever aggression Kyle had. Or maybe he just never was anything but passive. He just never has shown that he was really willing to fight for a career in the NBA like Simmons has. After this much time on the team, that is most frustrating. His total unwillingness to put up open shots is the perfect symbol of his passivity.

[Mnky]

Honestly, I've never really been an advocate of metrics, it's really been guys like the kawhidiots who motivate me to do some research. I wasn't talking about plus/minus because I agree with you it makes "bystanders" look better.

I just wanted to look at the advanced stats and see if Anderson was as terrible as most on this board believe. I just wanted to see if I was missing something because I don't think we can just go on the eye test if there is any doubt.

I've heard the efficiency rating isn't everything but I assume that's mainly when your preferred player has a lower rating than another. Anderson has a slightly higher PER. I'm not saying that makes him more productive but it definitely doesn't make him less productive compared to Simmons.

Anderson's rebounding, block and steal stats are better. Simply put it's his length and that shouldn't be used against him. He's a good rebounder and defender overall. I really don't think we should discredit that.

When I say comparable I mean they're virtually identical in VORP and Win Shares as are most of the Spurs outside Kawhi. Simmons has a slightly higher True Shooting%. The one stat that separates them is Usage. So Anderson is the better defender and Simmons is the better offensive player.

I agree with your assessment of him being soft or weak. I thought Anderson would've been stronger by now but back to the potential argument. Can he get stronger? That's probably the one area where he should be able to improve without a doubt.

Regarding his mental state, he's getting the same wide open shots he got in summer league he just isn't making them. It's obvious he doesn't have the confidence he needs on the offensive end but again, can he develop that?

So that's all I meant about them being comparable or similar in their productivity it's just they produce on opposite ends of the court.

Yea I agree that metrics and efficiency can be very subjective. In the case of anderson, I think it's easy to see the difference they impact the game. Anderson has rest size and length which you can't coach, but I don't see him bang on the boards or block out much. I see a lot of balls fall into his hands. I thought he could get stronger, especially at his age where growth is magnified, but he has been a big let down in that area. To me, that shows the type of person he is. I don't think he's even as slow as he acts, albeit still slow, I believe he's just not engaged most the time. Someone like him has to be.

Simmons led the team in scoring the other night, and got almost 10 free throws. He did t have a great shooting night either, he just was constantly engaged and putting pressure on the other team. That's an intangible you can't always measure.

Kyle has that in the sense as a pg mindset, but has only shown in with frequent touches. If you need a lot of touches, to do something right, maybe you're not that good and the amount of attempts probably hide your realistic ability.

I think he can get better. My argument has always been that he has to want to, and have the right mindset. He hasn't shown either of those with his opportunities.

Hopefully he can start clicking though, as even as a trade or development item, itd be nice to get something from him.
I do believe he can be impacted on th defense and boards but it's nowhere consistent enough to feel good as the backup sf.

[100%duncan]

There's room in the NBA for a guy who can play D and work the boards. If he can really shoot 40% from 3 (and I think he can) then maybe there's a place for him. Then his ball-handling skills and any work he can do around the basket are a bonus. I have a lot of respect for the Spurs FO/coaches, but this time I think they held onto the idea of him being a point-forward for too long.

To put 40% (I’m assuming career-wise) into perspective...

Glen rice: 40.02%
Ray Allen: 40.02%
Kenny smith: 39.98%
Patty Mills: 39.46%
Kawhi: 39.27%
Eric Gordon: 38.88%
Dirk: 38.10%
KD:38.07%

and a little down below

Paul Pierce: 36.86%
Chris Paul: 36.73%

So yeah, you just can’t say you think he can shoot 40% when 1. It’s pretty difficult to do so and 2. he’s taken 14 threes this season so any percentage prior to last game was bull

[dabom]

And the guy shoots nothing but WIDE OPEN ING SHOTS too.

[tholdren]

Um, yeah, you genius, I'm saying he's good for eating up minutes right now. Maybe he gets better, maybe not, but I'm not advocating postseason play so calm the down and learn how to read.

Mr. Body. You never cease to amaze me with your poetic responses telling people to calm down when you are incensed with rage in the same response. This is why I love Spurstalk. Keep making this place great.

[Mr. Body]

Mr. Body. You never cease to amaze me with your poetic responses telling people to calm down when you are incensed with rage in the same response. This is why I love Spurstalk. Keep making this place great.

Lol, will do!

[SAGirl]

I was a fan of both Anderson and Simmons from their first SL game. I even coined a term, "Spurs TNG" because I thought they could become Spurs lifers. I am really encouraged by Simmons' progress this season, and I hope that he will solidify his spot as a regular rotation player - perhaps even become the sixth man. He has worked hard to play within the framework of the offense, and it shows. You could feel Simmons' restraint earlier this season. Now he seems like he is becoming comfortable enough to go back to some of his natural tendencies. When he fully develops the vision to know when to go with the flow of the offense and when to go with his individual athleticism, he will be a good NBA player.

With Kyle, you are right - I just don't see that Kyle shows much determination or grit or fire. Whatever real intensity I have seen from the guy has come on the boards - and that all too infrequently. Now, maybe the coaches, in trying to make him a Boris 2.0 just threw too much at him too fast and neutralized whatever aggression Kyle had. Or maybe he just never was anything but passive. He just never has shown that he was really willing to fight for a career in the NBA like Simmons has. After this much time on the team, that is most frustrating. His total unwillingness to put up open shots is the perfect symbol of his passivity.

Disagree with that... he may not look it c he doesn't have a high motor, but he competes. He wouldn't be impactful if he wasn't competing on defense and he rebounds like a forward (compare that with DAvis rebound % of just 10%, and the guy is 6'10, taller and more athletic and other forwards bulkier than him like Diaw and Dwest who flat out didn't block out bigs or boarded....) If anything rebounding requires a lot more grit, getting bumped by guys tougher at times, and physical play. Now the Spurs switch everything and it affects where someone is for purposes of a rebound.. some games just guys are not going to get a lot of rebounding opportunities just due to defensive coverages etc... and some guys like Lee go for every rebound. I have observed Kyle boxing out and blocking out so Lee or someone else can grab a board... He's not a statpadder who steals boards from others... He just wasn't a shooter... purely his game was very different and he's had to change it bc he cannot play at this level the same way he had been playing. WE have to take into account that he was a pass first PG. He can't be that in the NBA. He has improved his shot a lot but he still doesn't have the mentality of a sniper. The sniper always wants to shoot.. some can get into straight up chucking at times. Kyle was a pass first PG... he can't be that anymore... but he still wants to pass. It's like going against an old nature. He is going to have to change his mentality a bit to fulfill a role and from there whatever happens, happens. He just has an unorthodox game which translating was going to be tricky. I do not think that means he doesn't compete... if anything he's having to change his game the most. Others just had to just refine and improve what they did more or less well, something Mkny and others have stated... they already had something they could do that perhaps was unrefined. Kyle basically had to reinvent himself... and shooting has to become a bigger part of his game than it previously was. He's not going to be a huge volume shooter anyways... but him cutting and doing other things has improved as well.. and he definitely has to be taking his open shots.

[sasaint]

Disagree with that... he may not look it c he doesn't have a high motor, but he competes. He wouldn't be impactful if he wasn't competing on defense and he rebounds like a forward (compare that with DAvis rebound % of just 10%, and the guy is 6'10, taller and more athletic and other forwards bulkier than him like Diaw and Dwest who flat out didn't block out bigs or boarded....) If anything rebounding requires a lot more grit, getting bumped by guys tougher at times, and physical play. Now the Spurs switch everything and it affects where someone is for purposes of a rebound.. some games just guys are not going to get a lot of rebounding opportunities just due to defensive coverages etc... and some guys like Lee go for every rebound. I have observed Kyle boxing out and blocking out so Lee or someone else can grab a board... He's not a statpadder who steals boards from others... He just wasn't a shooter... purely his game was very different and he's had to change it bc he cannot play at this level the same way he had been playing. WE have to take into account that he was a pass first PG. He can't be that in the NBA. He has improved his shot a lot but he still doesn't have the mentality of a sniper. The sniper always wants to shoot.. some can get into straight up chucking at times. Kyle was a pass first PG... he can't be that anymore... but he still wants to pass. It's like going against an old nature. He is going to have to change his mentality a bit to fulfill a role and from there whatever happens, happens. He just has an unorthodox game which translating was going to be tricky. I do not think that means he doesn't compete... if anything he's having to change his game the most. Others just had to just refine and improve what they did more or less well, something Mkny and others have stated... they already had something they could do that perhaps was unrefined. Kyle basically had to reinvent himself... and shooting has to become a bigger part of his game than it previously was. He's not going to be a huge volume shooter anyways... but him cutting and doing other things has improved as well.. and he definitely has to be taking his open shots.

The first part of your argument is really against a straw man. Yes, he shows some grit on the boards (as I said - and have consistently said), but I would like to see more of it. And yes, he has had to reinvent himself in a manner that is unnatural for him.

Maybe I did a poor job in my earlier post of describing what I may not have the ability to capture with words. It is something intangible that I see and feel in Kyle's play - maybe it's in his body language. He simply doesn't give me the feeling that he is playing with an "edge" or "with a chip on his shoulder." Try this: he plays like a big dog with little fight in him, in contrast to Patty who plays like a small dog with big fight in him. He just seems to play basketball by the numbers not with feeling and passion. Like I said, I can't provide any metrics to support my eye test.

You and I have discussed Kyle enough that you know where I am coming from. I was a True Believer, I am just very disappointed in where he is at this stage of his career. I wish him the best, and I also want the Spurs to get the most out of him that they can - on the floor or by trade.

[SAGirl]

The first part of your argument is really against a straw man. Yes, he shows some grit on the boards (as I said - and have consistently said), but I would like to see more of it. And yes, he has had to reinvent himself in a manner that is unnatural for him.

Maybe I did a poor job in my earlier post of describing what I may not have the ability to capture with words. It is something intangible that I see and feel in Kyle's play - maybe it's in his body language. He simply doesn't give me the feeling that he is playing with an "edge" or "with a chip on his shoulder." Try this: he plays like a big dog with little fight in him, in contrast to Patty who plays like a small dog with big fight in him. He just seems to play basketball by the numbers not with feeling and passion. Like I said, I can't provide any metrics to support my eye test.

You and I have discussed Kyle enough that you know where I am coming from. I was a True Believer, I am just very disappointed in where he is at this stage of his career. I wish him the best, and I also want the Spurs to get the most out of him that they can - on the floor or by trade.

I only really expected one improvement this season that was within his power... to shoot more when open.. He has an improved jumper... we saw it over the summer and to open the season it was something that Pop himself has said, so him coming in with the wrong mentality has disappointed me for sure.

We shall disagree on the rest, as personal appreciation is personal on whether the guy is compe ive. I believe he is. He would not have won as much as he has in his young life out of sheer rolling out of bed and having talent. Dude has been a winner all his life. Some guys have a high motor ... Patty has that God bless him, that doesn't make him the only compe or in the sport. Kyle has won a good percentage of "rest games" he has had to step up for others at several spots.. think about that. Sure he's not doing the scoring but he does what he can... gets you a big rebound, a deflection or steal. The past game he had 5 assists... etc. He's just not going to pass the eye test bc he doesn't have a high motor. But he's going to have to change the mentality to be more impactful offensively, and the easiest way is taking his open shots. Hopefully he makes that transition this season. In reality he started playing with very, very high usage players and scoring is not what they were looking for him...

[MVPCues]

The first part of your argument is really against a straw man. Yes, he shows some grit on the boards (as I said - and have consistently said), but I would like to see more of it. And yes, he has had to reinvent himself in a manner that is unnatural for him.

Maybe I did a poor job in my earlier post of describing what I may not have the ability to capture with words. It is something intangible that I see and feel in Kyle's play - maybe it's in his body language. He simply doesn't give me the feeling that he is playing with an "edge" or "with a chip on his shoulder." Try this: he plays like a big dog with little fight in him, in contrast to Patty who plays like a small dog with big fight in him. He just seems to play basketball by the numbers not with feeling and passion. Like I said, I can't provide any metrics to support my eye test.

You and I have discussed Kyle enough that you know where I am coming from. I was a True Believer, I am just very disappointed in where he is at this stage of his career. I wish him the best, and I also want the Spurs to get the most out of him that they can - on the floor or by trade.

i see what you see also. It *is* sort of hard to put into words. Maybe 1/2 not wanting to stick his neck out for fear of screwing up, and 1/2 not playing with any real fire.

[SAGirl]

It might be what you both describe is indeed him being passive and not looking to score... as he's not a shooter I think that limits him off the ball... but it's got to change. Although he missed shots I was encouraged that he did not pass them up the last game.

He's going back to being a deep bench reserve anyways...

[Mnky]

I was a fan of both Anderson and Simmons from their first SL game. I even coined a term, "Spurs TNG" because I thought they could become Spurs lifers. I am really encouraged by Simmons' progress this season, and I hope that he will solidify his spot as a regular rotation player - perhaps even become the sixth man. He has worked hard to play within the framework of the offense, and it shows. You could feel Simmons' restraint earlier this season. Now he seems like he is becoming comfortable enough to go back to some of his natural tendencies. When he fully develops the vision to know when to go with the flow of the offense and when to go with his individual athleticism, he will be a good NBA player.

With Kyle, you are right - I just don't see that Kyle shows much determination or grit or fire. Whatever real intensity I have seen from the guy has come on the boards - and that all too infrequently. Now, maybe the coaches, in trying to make him a Boris 2.0 just threw too much at him too fast and neutralized whatever aggression Kyle had. Or maybe he just never was anything but passive. He just never has shown that he was really willing to fight for a career in the NBA like Simmons has. After this much time on the team, that is most frustrating. His total unwillingness to put up open shots is the perfect symbol of his passivity.

Agreed on most accounts. I wonder how much they invest in him going forward, with the team needing to evolve to keep up with the west. If they don't have any other options, I'm sure they keep him around for familiarity if he wants to stay.

[sasaint]

Agreed on most accounts. I wonder how much they invest in him going forward, with the team needing to evolve to keep up with the west. If they don't have any other options, I'm sure they keep him around for familiarity if he wants to stay.

Kyle won't be kept around like Bonner. But I am beginning to believe that PATFO will keep him around until his contract expires and then just unceremoniously let him go.

[HarlemHeat37]

In a game where nobody played much defense on either team, Anderson stood out, as usual, tbh..been a great defender, all season, and continued it tonight..

It's a shame he's virtually useless on offense and hasn't developed a niche on this team, unfortunately..he could be a nice asset in the playoffs if he could be playable on that side of the floor..