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    I'd say if Spurs had balls, they'd be able to fix their problems easily.

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    How many problems can a team with the 2nd best record have?

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    How many problems can a team with the 2nd best record have?
    You can have many. got.

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    How many problems can a team with the 2nd best record have?
    Not that I'm 100% agreeing with dabom, but let's not act like the team's record means much outside seeding purposes. The team has a plethora of problems, some of which stem from all three listed (and the salaries of two of them).

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    it will be even more next year

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    Not that I'm 100% agreeing with dabom, but let's not act like the team's record means much outside seeding purposes. The team has a plethora of problems, some of which stem from all three listed (and the salaries of two of them).
    If this team has a plethora of problems then every team in the league does. Their record does mean a lot. It doesn't mean they dont have problems, but if your definition of a problem is that they aren't clear cut favorites well there is nothing that can be done with that.

    Any problems that stem from the 3 listed also comes with the good that they do and the reality in which we live.

    What realistic trades can you or daboom propose using those 3 that would solve the "problems"?

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    I'd say if Spurs had balls, they'd be able to fix their problems easily.
    How many problems can a team with the 2nd best record have?

    Wrong question, DPG. The real question is, "What would Dabom know about having balls?"

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    If this team has a plethora of problems then every team in the league does. Their record does mean a lot. It doesn't mean they dont have problems, but if your definition of a problem is that they aren't clear cut favorites well there is nothing that can be done with that.

    Any problems that stem from the 3 listed also comes with the good that they do and the reality in which we live.

    What realistic trades can you are daboom propose using those 3 that would solve the "problems"?
    The offseason is far away. It's too far to think now of the available players and which resign with their teams.

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    Wrong question, DPG. The real question is, "What would Dabom know about having balls?"
    They go in your sister's mouth, for one.

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    The offseason is far away. It's too far to think now of the available players and which resign with their teams.
    But the guys you listed are under contract and have nothing to do with FA. You were implying trading them because that is all that can be done since they are all in fact under contract.

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    But the guys you listed are under contract and have nothing to do with FA. You were implying trading them because that is all that can be done since they are all in fact under contract.
    We have to see which teams are willing to part ways with players and which players are upset in their teams by that time. Pretty far you stupid .

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    I AGREE WITH DABOM< WE SHOULD MAKE TRADES TO GET WORSE SO KAWHI FORCETRADE HIMSESELF LEAVE TO A BETTER TEAM SOONER/ POP DIES AND DUNCAN RETURNS

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    We have to see which teams are willing to part ways with players and which players are upset in their teams by that time. Pretty far you stupid .
    So it's pretty far away and you make a thread about it today Makes a lot of sense.

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    So it's pretty far away and you make a thread about it today Makes a lot of sense.
    I understand the problem in a nuclear level. Something you don't get.

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    If this team has a plethora of problems then every team in the league does. Their record does mean a lot. It doesn't mean they dont have problems, but if your definition of a problem is that they aren't clear cut favorites well there is nothing that can be done with that.

    Any problems that stem from the 3 listed also comes with the good that they do and the reality in which we live.

    What realistic trades can you are daboom propose using those 3 that would solve the "problems"?
    I'm more pissed off that they're in the situation with Porker and Gasol in the first place tbh. Porker I can somewhat understand because he was still a top PG at the time of his extension (albeit they should've done more homework on how guards in his mold age). Gasol on the other hand was an awful decision by PATFO that resulted from bad decisions made since the 2014 le (and really since the 2011-12 season).

    As for the record, the franchise has seen plenty of years with a gaudy record come crashing down early in the postseason. They're better than 24-25 teams in the league but that's mostly due to the sorry state of the league these days.

    There's not much the team can do with Parker and Gasol trade-wise (and I understand they'd never move Parker regardless), but they shouldn't be in this position in the first place.

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    I'm more pissed off that they're in the situation with Porker and Gasol in the first place tbh. Porker I can somewhat understand because he was still a top PG at the time of his extension (albeit they should've done more homework on how guards in his mold age). Gasol on the other hand was an awful decision by PATFO that resulted from bad decisions made since the 2014 le (and really since the 2011-12 season).

    As for the record, the franchise has seen plenty of years with a gaudy record come crashing down early in the postseason. They're better than 24-25 teams in the league but that's mostly due to the sorry state of the league these days.

    There's not much the team can do with Parker and Gasol trade-wise (and I understand they'd never move Parker regardless), but they shouldn't be in this position in the first place.
    I mean, if you agree that keeping TP was right at the time (it was easily), then the only "mistake" is Pau. But even then Pau has been decent enough, filled the exact need they had (Tim leaving) and was the one guy they could reasonably afford. Sure, KD and others would have been ideal but they didn't have a shot at that.

    Plus, with Pau, this team is still a contender even if they have flaws. That is the best you can do. You have to sign someone and not only did they do that, they got him on a very short deal compared to virtually all other deals handed out. Even with up's and down's with a new roster this team is winning and a contender; even if it's "fringe".

    That's what I meant by my "how many problems" question. I'm aware they have holes, but they really didn't make too many mistakes at all and are still very, very good.

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    As if record matters when it comes to the spurs. this team won't make it past the 2ND round, it's pretty obvious to any non homer fan.

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    I'm more pissed off that they're in the situation with Porker and Gasol in the first place tbh. Porker I can somewhat understand because he was still a top PG at the time of his extension (albeit they should've done more homework on how guards in his mold age). Gasol on the other hand was an awful decision by PATFO that resulted from bad decisions made since the 2014 le (and really since the 2011-12 season).

    As for the record, the franchise has seen plenty of years with a gaudy record come crashing down early in the postseason. They're better than 24-25 teams in the league but that's mostly due to the sorry state of the league these days.

    There's not much the team can do with Parker and Gasol trade-wise (and I understand they'd never move Parker regardless), but they shouldn't be in this position in the first place.
    And bad decisions since the le? ? They were a playoff team both years after the le and signed LaMarcus (biggest FA that year) one year after the le.

    I mean damn, tough crowd.

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    As if record matters when it comes to the spurs. this team won't make it past the 2ND round, it's pretty obvious to any non homer fan.
    So in context, what can you do? Sorry Lebron exists and that KD chose GS. What more could they do? Force other teams to just hand over their best players?

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    As if record matters when it comes to the spurs. this team won't make it past the 2ND round, it's pretty obvious to any non homer fan.
    So, you give us no chance to beat the Rockets, the team we'd currently meet in the second round?

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    So in context, what can you do? Sorry Lebron exists and that KD chose GS. What more could they do? Force other teams to just hand over their best players?
    We're talking about the future. The past is done. That's what this thread is for.

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    We're talking about the future. The past is done. That's what this thread is for.
    I know - what can they do?

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    I know - what can they do?
    Trade porker. If they had the balls.

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    I mean, if you agree that keeping TP was right at the time (it was easily), then the only "mistake" is Pau. But even then Pau has been decent enough, filled the exact need they had (Tim leaving) and was the one guy they could reasonably afford. Sure, KD and others would have been ideal but they didn't have a shot at that.

    Plus, with Pau, this team is still a contender even if they have flaws. That is the best you can do. You have to sign someone and not only did they do that, they got him on a very short deal compared to virtually all other deals handed out. Even with up's and down's with a new roster this team is winning and a contender; even if it's "fringe".

    That's what I meant by my "how many problems" question. I'm aware they have holes, but they really didn't make too many mistakes at all and are still very, very good.
    I never said giving Tony that extension was the right move, just saying I can understand why they made the mistake. As for Gasol, it most definitely was a mistake and all anyone had to do in the FO to realize it was to watch his games with Chicago last year and compare them to his advanced numbers. Even Chicago fans, some of the most re ed in all of sports, hated his play. I know MVPau is a great guy and locker room presence, but on the court he really doesn't help the Spurs and it'll be felt most once we get into the post-ASB and playoffs when teams really start attacking him and Parker on the PnR while Gasol can't rebound to save his life.

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    Trade porker. If they had the balls.
    That's not good enough. Trade Parker for who specifically. Lay out a well though out and CBA-compliant plan.

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