dabom's predictable compulsory post-loss thread

[DPG21920]

I never said giving Tony that extension was the right move, just saying I can understand why they made the mistake. As for Gasol, it most definitely was a mistake and all anyone had to do in the FO to realize it was to watch his games with Chicago last year and compare them to his advanced numbers. Even Chicago fans, some of the most re ed in all of sports, hated his play. I know MVPau is a great guy and locker room presence, but on the court he really doesn't help the Spurs and it'll be felt most once we get into the post-ASB and playoffs when teams really start attacking him and Parker on the PnR while Gasol can't rebound to save his life.

But you are ignoring that they had to sign someone - who else would you have liked them to sign that you think they had a realistic shot at to fill that void?

You are also ignoring that even with signing Pau, they did it on one of the shortest deals of the off-season and that with him they have the 2nd best record. How big of a "problem" or "mistake" is that really?

[dabom]

That's not good enough. Trade Parker for who specifically. Lay out a well though out and CBA-compliant plan.

Why are you asking if I already answered that it would be dumb trying to piece a trade so far away. But the team needs to understand that. What don't you understand got?

[GSH]

We have to see which teams are willing to part ways with players and which players are upset in their teams by that time. Pretty far you stupid .

[RD2191]

So, you give us no chance to beat the Rockets, the team we'd currently meet in the second round?

Tbh I'm not sure. I just don't like what I see with this team when they play other top teams in the league. People like to downplay the regular season but the past couple of seasons we had basically zero signature wins in the regular season and we all know how the playoffs turned out. If I see some convincing wins against the cavs/dubs/clips then I might have a change of opinion.

[gilmor]

Trade porker. If they had the balls.

Trade for who? CP3 not going to come.. if CP3 is willing and take a salary cut, pull the trigger..

[dabom]

Porker stans. Reminds me of the times they said he was going to get better. Now it's a, "we'll hes a spurs for life and can't get cut" defense now.

It's gonna happen that we lose porker. It's up to the FO to make the right decision.

[BillMc]

Tbh I'm not sure. I just don't like what I see with this team when they play other top teams in the league. People like to downplay the regular season but the past couple of seasons we had basically zero signature wins in the regular season and we all know how the playoffs turned out. If I see some convincing wins against the cavs/dubs/clips then I might have a change of opinion.

Fair enough but didn't we have a signature win against the Dubs opening night?

[DPG21920]

Why are you asking if I already answered that it would be dumb trying to piece a trade so far away. But the team needs to understand that. What don't you understand got?

So then why make the thread now ?

You make a thread, get called, claim it's too far for any actual content for said thread then say others don't understand .

You are correct, no one understands why you made this thread with absoultely no content.

[Robz4000]

And bad decisions since the le? ? They were a playoff team both years after the le and signed LaMarcus (biggest FA that year) one year after the le.

I mean damn, tough crowd.

I liked the LMA signing (and still do), but once they saw what they had with Leonard in the 2014 Finals (and with Duncan approaching the end of his career) they should've been looking for players that compliment his game. Instead the Spurs have a flawed roster with no dynamic playmakers and repe ive players in LMA/Gasol. The only good move they've made.for the future other than the obvious pursuit and signing of LMA is drafting Murray and we're still 2/3 years away from seeing how much of a good move it'll be.

[DPG21920]

Why are you asking if I already answered that it would be dumb trying to piece a trade so far away. But the team needs to understand that. What don't you understand got?

Also, the trade deadline is in like 45 days

[dabom]

So then why make the thread now ?

You make a thread, get called, claim it's too far for any actual content for said thread then say others don't understand .

You are correct, no one understands why you made this thread with absoultely no content.

This thread is very valid. We have to prepare to see which of these players we need to cut.

That's always the starting point. Then, we figure out the best available players for that position/transition.

[dabom]

Also, the trade deadline is in like 45 days

I'm talking about the offseason.

We can get better players.

[DPG21920]

I liked the LMA signing (and still do), but once they saw what they had with Leonard in the 2014 Finals (and with Duncan approaching the end of his career) they should've been looking for players that compliment his game. Instead the Spurs have a flawed roster with no dynamic playmakers and repe ive players in LMA/Gasol. The only good move they've made.for the future other than the obvious pursuit and signing of LMA is drafting Murray and we're still 2/3 years away from seeing how much of a good move it'll be.

Well, with a hobbled Tim last year SA was a few bs calls from making another WCF. It's not crazy to think that Pau is better than hobbled Tim last year and may be enough if Danny/Patty rebounded to make another solid run.

They did all of this without strapping themselves to Pau for more than 2 years (maybe only 1).

[ducks]

Leonard sucked last night

[DPG21920]

I'm talking about the offseason.

We can get better players.

Now it's the off season

[BillMc]

I liked the LMA signing (and still do), but once they saw what they had with Leonard in the 2014 Finals (and with Duncan approaching the end of his career) they should've been looking for players that compliment his game. Instead the Spurs have a flawed roster with no dynamic playmakers and repe ive players in LMA/Gasol. The only good move they've made.for the future other than the obvious pursuit and signing of LMA is drafting Murray and we're still 2/3 years away from seeing how much of a good move it'll be.

I think (as you do) that signing LMA was a good move, as was locking up Kawhi and Danny that same offseason. They also got a rotation player (though a flawed one) for nothing in Simmons. Summer 2015 alone made sure the Spurs would stay relevant.

[RD2191]

Fair enough but didn't we have a signature win against the Dubs opening night?

I don't see it as one. It was the first game of the season and KDs first game with the dubs.

[dabom]

Now it's the off season

I never had a position. You just assumed one.

Are you the biggest got on ST?

[dabom]

Porker stans. Reminds me of the times they said he was going to get better. Now it's a, "we'll hes a spurs for life and can't get cut" defense now.

It's gonna happen that we lose porker. It's up to the FO to make the right decision.

No one bumping this though.

Too much truth cereal.

[DPG21920]

Thanks for the futuristic no content, no plan thread

[BillMc]

I don't see it as one. It was the first game of the season and KDs first game with the dubs.

Okay, we'll agree to disagree on that. Those March games with the Dubs will be interesting.

[GSH]

But you are ignoring that they had to sign someone - who else would you have liked them to sign that you think they had a realistic shot at to fill that void?

You are also ignoring that even with signing Pau, they did it on one of the shortest deals of the off-season and that with him they have the 2nd best record. How big of a "problem" or "mistake" is that really?

They didn't trade Parker for Curry or LeBron. If they had any balls, they would have made one of those deals happen. Don't you get it?

[Robz4000]

But you are ignoring that they had to sign someone - who else would you have liked them to sign that you think they had a realistic shot at to fill that void?

You are also ignoring that even with signing Pau, they did it on one of the shortest deals of the off-season and that with him they have the 2nd best record. How big of a "problem" or "mistake" is that really?

I was with Harlem on Dedmon and thought he'd be a great fit next to LMA. Then there'd of been Gasol's money to use on the pursuit of a playmaking guard like Clarkson/Wade (longshot obviously)/Lin/etc. Even then, just because you have the money doesn't mean you need to spend it. Gasol was not going to replace what Duncan brought to the team the last few years. , he hurts the team thanks to his poor effort/defense that rubs off on LMA and in turn hurts Kawhi, Green, and Parker (who already struggles enough on the defensive end). The problem with this team was never going to be offense since it was going to be Kawhi/LMA heavy as is; adding a player who was going to take shots away from LMA wasn't going to aid the offense.

[DPG21920]

I was with Harlem on Dedmon and thought he'd be a great fit next to LMA. Then there'd of been Gasol's money to use on the pursuit of a playmaking guard like Clarkson/Wade (longshot obviously)/Lin/etc. Even then, just because you have the money doesn't mean you need to spend it. Gasol was not going to replace what Duncan brought to the team the last few years. , he hurts the team thanks to his poor effort/defense that rubs off on LMA and in turn hurts Kawhi, Green, and Parker (who already struggles enough on the defensive end). The problem with this team was never going to be offense since it was going to be Kawhi/LMA heavy as is; adding a player who was going to take shots away from LMA wasn't going to aid the offense.

We just have to disagree. This is a case where your logic on paper obviously doesn't match up with what you are seeing. At the end of the day it's a short deal so that limits any mistake. Secondly if TP/Pau were as bad as you are saying, there is no way SA has the 2nd best record in the league.

Even you said they are at least better than 25 other teams; think about that with what you are saying now.

[Robz4000]

Well, with a hobbled Tim last year SA was a few bs calls from making another WCF. It's not crazy to think that Pau is better than hobbled Tim last year and may be enough if Danny/Patty rebounded to make another solid run.

They did all of this without strapping themselves to Pau for more than 2 years (maybe only 1).

They really weren't though. Outside the first game OKC looked like the superior team and Pop's rotations escalated the problems. On top of that, Tim on no knees still looks like the much superior player on defense, was still the same level of passer, and effort was never a problem with him. Like I said, this team never needed another offensive big next to LMA and Kawhi, but another defender to help mitigate what they lost in Duncan to take the load off LMA/Leonard on defense.