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Tons better. Agree with OP.
Can we safely say now that Bertans and Murray are better prospects than Anderson and Simmons in their respective rookie years.
Tons better. Agree with OP.
Simmons has potential just has to shot when open
That was the case before the season too. Murray is oozing with potential, and Bertans has been a pro for so long. Anderson and Simmons might have been better players as rookies, but Murray and Bertans are possibly the best non-Kawhi prospects the team has had since Parker.
You don't consider Manu a prospect?
Just watching theblast 5 minutes...I mean, those are the minites where Anderson and Simmons should be showing control and better assertivness...but Murray is already showing them how to be assertive.
Bertans has shown more assertivness in the games he played this year than Kyle whole career..
It's a shame really because Anderson is a great help defender
Eh.
But...but...Bertans is hesitant!
simmons is already 42 yrs old. I think he is at his ceiling now but just needs to be more consistent.
I was pulling for Anderson last season but he looks like a lost cause. Maybe the Spurs just aren't a great fit for him.
Since OP is stricty referring to garbage time minutes, uhm, sure.
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Anderson is not a lost cause. He's looked amazing as a 4 and he's actually useful offensively. It's when he's playing the three..he is so useless offensively and defensively he gets exposed against fast wings.
More time at the 4 next year..
And stop the stupid turnovers.
Often he makes his dribble move, needs to pass the ball but hangs on a bit too long and the defense catches on. Should have learned by watching Good Manu vs Bad Manu by now.
Simmons is like 59 years old. He already peaked..He's not going tl be a different player next year.
Nomrally, great players continue to improve...but Role Players usually stop growing at a certain point in their career.a
Who knows? Murray looked shakey in garbage time. I don't see him playing much this year unless we start tanking.
Of course he's not going to play this year..that would be suicide. He's way too eratic.
It's like Harlem says, Kyle may be better off in another team that is willing to give him minutes at that spot, he may yet salvage his career as he's still young. Pop insists Kyle is a wing so that will be that for the Spurs. If he isn't traded, he better use what time he has to work on his shooting bc no matter what he does he needs to shoot more.
For Davis, he has been a pro since he was 15 and he's currently 24, plus he's athletic and is a great 3 pt shooter... In his case, Pop insists the opposite. He's a big and he won't get to play over Lee. His time may be next season... though who knows. Pop needs to find him time. One thing is certain, if Davis doesn't get to play through the season he won't be ready to help in a playoff situation.
Simmons is a 27 year old.. At his age and currently being a rotation player, I don't think he's a prospect. He's an NBA player and will get paid in the offseason based on how he does in the playoffs.
Murray is so young with a lot of potential based on his physical profile and his aggressive mentality. He will be fun to watch develop but it's very early in his career and he has to develop.
Kyle and Simmons were picked to be role players. Murray was picked for potential. The spurs could have picked a more athletic player over Kyle, but they saw Kyle as a useful glue guy. He's become that, just not the guy we imagined.
Well there is the factor of novelty.
I thought Simmons last season was a lot more surprising than Murray... His explosiveness was Wham!!!!! It's just he was older and one never could tell if he would fix his issues. Murray is so young that he has time be a tremendously much better player by Simmons age... we just don't know obviously.
Not for nothing but Murray is trash
I know hes 19 and still has to develop but hes as pro getting paid a pro salary so the criticism is legitimate
Cory is a good defender but 3 possessions in pop took the balll outta Murrays hands because he clearly couldnt handle the pressure
And im actually higher on Bertans than Simmons
Hes so far down the depth chart they should just let him spend extended time in Austin
Anderson prolly woouldnt be in the NBA if not for the Spurs
Murray is 20 now. He's definitely shaky young or not. He can't handle real NBA pressure, which is why I liked the fact he competed against CoJo.
Are you saying Davis is so far down the depth chart that they should send him to Austin?
It's all a guess. Simmons has some great parts to his game, but the whole game is inconsistent. He's good enough to get minutes during close games, but he's the ultimate X factor. One game he makes insanely good plays and the next, he's a turnover machine that can't buy a basket. He's just not reliable for 20 minutes every night, but he's played Anderson out of the rotation.
Murray has some tools, but he's got no meat on his bones to take advantage of his best asset, driving to the rim. His jumper is suspect, and Joseph exposed his dribbling. At one point, Simmons had to take the ball up bc Murray couldn't handle Joseph's pressure. But I think you have to give rookies 3 years before you can pass judgment.
Way too soon to write off Murray.
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