odd it took her so long to figure out which way the wind is blowing
Palin getting on her knees
Trump saying DNC and mainstream media, as well as CIA and neocon establishment are all full of
Democratic Nationalist Hawks
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odd it took her so long to figure out which way the wind is blowing
In related news, Wikileaks to sue CNN for public defamation on Assage.
Apparently one f the CNN retads called assage a pedophile
Wikileaks offers to pull back the suit only if CNN airs a 1 hour special unmasking the Assage is a pedophile pizza theory![]()
Nothing surpises me these days. And its only gonna get worse
Dude at least spell his name right. AssaNge.
Trump’s Praising Assange Today But in 2010 He Called WikiLeaks ‘Disgraceful,’ Called For ‘Death Penalty’
Preparing to appear on Fox News’ Brian Kilmeade‘s radio program, Trump offered up his opinion on WikiLeaks when the subject was brought up by Kilmeade.
“I think it’s disgraceful, I think there should be like death penalty or something,” the then-Apprentice star stated.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump...death-penalty/
So what, things change.
2010 PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, good afternoon, everybody. It is a pleasure to be here with my friend and partner, President Medvedev, and I want to thank him again for his leadership, especially his vision for an innovative Russia that’s modernizing its economy, including deeper economic ties between our two countries.
I want to thank the leaders who are guiding the discussion today -- my Commerce Secretary Gary Locke and Minister Nabiullina. I always have a little trouble with that one. (Laughter.) They say the same thing about Obama. (Laughter.)
We are joined by our United States Trade Representative, Ambassador Ron Kirk, and our great ambassadors John Beyrle and Sergey Kislyak.
And I want to also thank the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the U.S.-Russia Business Council, the American Chamber of Commerce in Moscow, and all the organizations who helped bring our countries together not just today but every day.
Many of you joined us at the business summit during my visit to Moscow one year ago, and it is good to see you again. I noted then that you’re part of a long tradition of commerce and trade between our peoples. Long before Russia and the United States even exchanged ambassadors, we exchanged goods.
In fact, before coming to Washington, President Medvedev visited California and Silicon Valley to explore new partnerships in science and technology and in venture capital. And while there, he pledged Russia’s support to preserve the historic Fort Ross in Sonoma County -- an enduring reminder of the early Russian settlements and trade that brought Russian goods to our young nation.
Some have even wondered whether our Declaration of Independence may have been signed with goose quills from Russia. More than 200 years later, it’s a sign of the times that during his visit to Silicon Valley, President Medvedev opened his own Twitter account. I have one as well. And I said during our press conference today that we may be able to finally get rid of those old “red phones.” (Laughter.)
As we all know, despite the surge in trade in recent years, the economic relationship between the United States and Russia is still largely one of untapped potential. And I pointed out last year that our trade with Russia is only about the same as our trade with Thailand -- a country with less than half the population of Russia. So obviously there’s more work to do.
That’s why part of the reset of the U.S.-Russia relationship required us creating the U.S.-Russia Bilateral Partnership Commission -- Presidential Commission -- to explore a whole range of new opportunities, including economic partnerships that create jobs and opportunities for both our peoples. And under Secretary Locke and Minister Nabiullina’s leadership, that’s what we have done.
Companies represented here today are moving forward with a series of major trade and investment deals that will create jobs for both Americans and Russians across many sectors, from aerospace, to automotive engineering, to the financial sector and high-technology.
I am especially pleased that Boeing and Russian Technologies are moving forward with a $4 billion deal on 50 Boeing 737s. This is a win for Russia, creating a long-term market for its raw materials and resulting in modern airplanes for Russia’s travelers.
It’s obviously a win for the United States, because this partnership could add up to 44,000 new jobs in the American aerospace industry. This reflects my administration’s National Export Initiative, and it’s a perfect example of the shared prosperity —- and the high-tech jobs that we can create together.
So today, President Medvedev and I agreed to expand trade and commerce even further. We agreed to deepen our collaboration on energy efficiency and clean energy technologies. We reached an agreement that will allow the United States to begin exporting our poultry products to Russia once again. Chicken is important. (Laughter.)
I want to again thank President Medvedev and his team for resolving this issue, which is an important signal about Russia’s seriousness about achieving membership in the World Trade Organization. And that’s why I told President Medvedev that our teams should accelerate their efforts to work together to complete this process in the very near future.
I believe that Russia belongs in the WTO. That’s good for Russia. It’s good for America. And it is good for the world economy.
I pledged to President Medvedev that the United States wants to be Russia’s partner as he pursues his vision of modernization and innovation in Russia, including his initiative to create a Russian Silicon Valley outside of Moscow. American companies and universities were among the first to invest in this effort. And I’m pleased that a number of you here today are going to be working with it as well.
Now, there’s still a lot more that we can do to encourage trade and investment. And obviously in Russia -- and President Medvedev and I discussed this -- issues of transparency and accountability and rule of law remain absolutely critical. This is the foundation on which investments and economic growth depends. And I very much appreciate and applaud President Medvedev’s efforts in this area.
Today, we took another step forward. Our two governments are making a joint commitment to open government that fosters transparency and combats the corruption that stifles economic growth.
Of course, ultimately, it’s you -— the private sector, our entrepreneurs -— who create jobs and unleash economic growth. It’s the market that’s been the most powerful force in history for creating opportunity and prosperity. It’s not the resources we pump or pull from the ground. It’s the imagination and the creativity of our people, our workers, and their dreams for themselves and their children that ultimately drives the modern economy.
Last year in Moscow, I learned a Russian proverb, which says, “Every seed knows it’s time.” A year ago, we planted a seed of cooperation and commerce. And today, that cooperation is bearing fruit -- with new partnerships and prosperity for both our peoples. And I think that if we stay on the course that we’re on, with a spirit of mutual respect and mutual interest, we are going to make even more progress, sell more goods, create more jobs, get more cross-border financing than ever before.
So, President Medvedev, welcome. Thank you to all the business people who are visiting here from Russia and your ministers. Thank you for your vision and your determination to continue to move us towards a brighter vision of our future.
Thank you.
Has Obama's opinion of Medvedev changed?
This forum is becoming increasingly boring.
I would think so
Why is that?
Sounds like Medvedev changed his opinion about Obama.
Equating Trump's 360 on Assange to Obama/Russia since 2010 is lazy and stupid, to be honest. Unless you think Assange and Wikileaks have as drastically altered the way they do things as Russia has since Vladimir Putin reassumed the Presidency. Which would also be stupid.
But I get the idea. It's all about![]()
this thread and others reek of desperation for attention. hater, do you not have any friends? lol
Decreased presence of Chumpdumper and his sidekick Fuzzy, not enough repository threads talking about the long term outlook of bonds and interest rates, and guns.
You're right. President Putin/Prime Minister Medvedev is a completely different govt than President Medvedev/Prime Minister Putin.
Russia took Crimea, Russia invaded and occupies eastern Ukraine, Russia murders dissidents, etc, etc.
Why should the USA (Obama) give Russia a pass?
Repugs and all you rightwing assholes are totally ed up to adore, respect murderer Pootin.
The racist Repugs went on this Pootin love trip to spite the knitter, to prefer white Pootin to the American knitter, just because he's a knitter.
Trash is compromised, and along with the Repugs, are getting played for fools by Pootin.
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Wouldn't Assange had to go to court to go ahead with the lawsuit? This guy cant get out of the hole he's in so I dount he means it.
love that vid looking back...
but snakeboy, do you think russia is a bigger threat to us than isis?
search "russians laugh at america"
saddam gassed iranians and US sponsored him. Obama himself sponsors and finances Saudi war on Yemens civilians. Thats a genocide and your biy Obama is behind it. Shillary is the architect of the mess in Lybia.
wake up tool
Based on what's been going on over there since Putin has been President, yeah, it's pretty different if you're paying attention.
Certainly more different than Wikileaks/Assange vs. 4 years ago. Opinions and relationships changing over time is a lot more understandable when changing policies drive them.
How has Wikileaks or Assange changed in the past 4 years that would justify Trump's 180 on them?
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To be fair Obama/Hillary vs Obama/Kerry is like night and day
kerry actually has a soul and generally wants peace. As opposed to Hillary who is basically the female version of Cheney.
too bad Kerry was still short leashed by Obama administration. Otherwise real peace could have been achieved
I don't think that's a valid question since you are comparing apples & oranges. ISIS is a terrorist organization that can only be dealt with by force. Russia is a sovereign country that can only be dealt with through diplomacy.
A more appropriate question would be is it in the United States (and the worlds) best interest to have improved relations with Russia or worsen relations with Russia? I think it's the former. I also think the United States is at least equally (if not primarily) to blame for the current state of relations with Russia. I don't lay that just on Obama but he has continued the cold war strategy of containment of his predecessors. We are also on the wrong side in Syria...that's all on Obama.
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