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    Media narrative on Kawhi 'but but he's hurting his team' because they're in campaign for Dray DPOY. But then...Cavs game happened.

    Anyway, Spurs defense has a lot of flaws but Kawhi isn't one of them.
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    It's all those bad defenders who are doing it.

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    Spurs should be able to stay on top ... still no b2b over the next two weeks with the Cavs being the only considerable challenge

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    Reading this board, you'd think the Spurs were around #10 on defense.

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    Reading this board, you'd think the Spurs were around #10 on defense.
    The usual perpetrators.

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    How the can they be so high on D with Gasol/Parker getting significant minutes?

    Wingstop + last 2 weeks LMA have been absolute beasts lately.

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    Not only do they have the best defensive rating this season but their offensive rating is the best they've had in the last 20 years - they've never had such a good offensive rating in the Duncan years. It's also almost as good as during the 2014 playoff championship run.

    All of this while having spacing issues and one of the worst starting 1-5 PnR defenders in the league. It shows this team is very talented and they may have a very high ceiling if they're able to keep these as the season progresses and carry it into the playoffs.

    Also lol @ those bull articles about Kawhi's and the team's defense.

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    It's all those bad defenders who are doing it.


    It's nice to see the D get progressively better, not an easy task with all the new faces.

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    Regular season numbers tho

    Goodluck with Gasol's defense in the playoffs

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    Fortunately, the Spurs play a team scheme.

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    Offensive numbers are extremely high league wide, so OP was misleading to begin with.

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    Offensive numbers are extremely high league wide, so OP was misleading to begin with.
    True. I like to look at ORtg and DRtg in terms of standard deviations away from the mean. Makes it possible to compare different seasons and even different eras.

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    And on the other side of the court... best offensive rating in team history:


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    True. I like to look at ORtg and DRtg in terms of standard deviations away from the mean. Makes it possible to compare different seasons and even different eras.
    Net rating is what matters the most:

    If you are an elite defense but can't score then it means nothing, if you have an elite offense but can't get stops that also means nothing.

    Factoring in the SOS, this team is on the same level as '11-'12 Spurs assuming Porker can somewhat maintain his current form.

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    Net rating is what matters the most:

    If you are an elite defense but can't score then it means nothing
    Worked pretty well for the Pistons in 03-04. No one would have considered that a great offense.

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    It seems like the Spurs have problem...

    We cannot be considered a legit contender if we have the worst starting PG in the west.

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    We cannot be considered a legit contender if we have the worst starting PG in the west.
    Pretty sure he's not

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    Pretty sure he's not
    Even if you're a Parker-lover, you've got to admit he's in the bottom-half. Even that isn't good enough to be considered a contender, especially in a league with an abundance of skilled PGs.

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    According to TPA, Pau is the best Spur defensively: http://nbamath.com/tpa-database/nba-2016-17-tpa-scores/

    Anderson, Leonard and Dedmon round out the top four.

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    Total TPA has Kawhi, Gasol, Green, Patty and LMA as the top five.

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    We cannot be considered a legit contender if we have the worst starting PG in the west.
    If Westbrook is listed as the best defensive PG in any chart, you can basically light that chart on fire and burn it and draw random names in the ashes. The ash-names will be more accurate than that chart is.

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    3peat coming

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    If Westbrook is listed as the best defensive PG in any chart, you can basically light that chart on fire and burn it and draw random names in the ashes. The ash-names will be more accurate than that chart is.
    Here's the methodology: http://nbamath.com/tpa-model/

    Can't say I'm a fan of that calculation. Straight Plus-Minus could probably be used this way, BPA? Pretty sure it's way too derivative. It ends up giving counter-intuitive answers. And I can't see what it is trying to do that VORP doesn't already do.

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    My guy Briante Weber is second in the d-league (top for guys who are able to be called up) by this stat. It has him as the best defender by far. Wouldn't want to let a potential Beverly 2.0 go without at least getting a look.

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