Not sure if he 'loves' but he has no option. With Parker running P&Rs and P&Pops with the bigs, Kawhi is relegated to the corner like in this game.
In the first quarter until Pop sat Parker, Kawhi took just 2 shots, LMA 6, Parker 4. And all of those Kawhi's shots with Parker on the floor were 3's.
I'm not sure if this is a winning formular against Clippers or Warriors or any other playoffs team...
We needed a super aggressive Kawhi on offense to beat the Warriors, parking him in the corner a whole quarter to start the game will facilitate a lot the Warriors defense.
Where's this bull coming from that Patty "delivers" against good teams?
See here. Parker has had better games against better teams more often than House.
Funny enough, Patty's best game against the Mavs, who are like the worst team in the league this season
Tony Parker (28) was running circles around current Paddy stats (28). Of course, Parker also had higher expectations. Can you imagine paddy playing with Tony's expectations? It would be like the holocaust in here.
Kawhi isn't a robot. You can't expect him to carry both the main offensive and defensive loads every minute. He'll need in game "breaks" where Parker controls the action and he spots up at the 3 point line. All the better if he gets an easy jumper off Parker penetration/LMA post up, whatever.
THe best 5 game stint Parker has played since 13 or 14' tbh...
I haven't seen him have this swagger, spring in his step in years... plural.
It's astonishing to see after how bad he looked most of last year and the start of this year.
Whatever he's doing to his body, keep doing it.
Go Tony Go.
lol TOR, BOS, WASH, CHI, HOU, ATL
Some serious contenders in that list.
Why did patty not tear it up against those teams?
He is ......He's Getting Healthy.
My favorite comment of the evening. RD2191
If you think the Spurs will win a playoffs series with Kawhi parking in the corner just to give him 'breaks' ...Man, he barely plays 33 mpg in playoffs.
Also a 'break' doesn't mean a WHOLE quarter like it happened in the last games.
I'm not being results oriented. Patty, playing at his best while getting 25+ mpg as most of you want, gives the Spurs a WCF ceiling where they lose to Golden State in 6. Parker playing like this gives the Spurs an NBA Finals ceiling. Parker has killed Wardell and Co. over the years, and now that they've lost their paint anchor (Bogut), the paint is prime real estate for Parker (and any penetrator) to claim. See how Simmons tore them up in the opener.
That said, against the Clippers, Parker needs to be on a very short leash. And against them I'm more willing to gamble on Patty. Against all other teams, though, Parker is the better gamble.
I hope he proves me wrong, but I don't see Tony performing like this when it matters, tbh.
Toronto was the #2 seed and Atlanta was the #4 seed and they were both eliminated by the NBA champs last year. Houston is only 2 games back of the Spurs in the loss column this year.
Is this the only play that Parker can create for Kawhi? A 3 point shot? That will be the only type of shots that Kawhi will get with Parker on the floor?
I don't have any issue with Parker controling everything if Kawhi still has room to run some picks and gets other shots instead of waiting for Pop to sit Parker to get his offense rolling.
If Parker controls the action in a whole quarter and Kawhi becomes just a spot-3 shooter...That can't ge good, right?
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[QUOTE=timtonymanu;8852430]How about we just hope both show up in the playoffs? /QUOTE]
Basketball iden y-politics. That's why.
We went through this same bull argument last season, and you still haven't "gotten it."
I don't care about "raw" minutes. Kawhi carries arguably more total game load than any other star in the league. He's the Spurs primary perimeter defensive anchor, a role that has even more demand this season with Duncan's retirement and D-League being just an average defender this season. He's the primary offensive option who likes to post up, which is the most exhausting offensive style there is. On many nights, he has to be the Spurs best penetrator and playmaker. I know you Kawhi fanboys want to see him dominate the ball like Kobe so you can jerk off to his statlines, but he needs another perimeter player to help take the scoring/playmaking load off him. Curry has Klay and Durant. LBJ has Kyrie. Kawhi has: D-League and Tony. And only one of those players is anywhere near capable of being Kawhi's perimeter wingman.
Toronto Boston Houston are good. Take it down a notch with the hate
People still talk about the season and not about the last games. Until this game, Kawhi averaged 13 FGAs in the last 5 games, I doubt he had a higher USG% than Parker in those games.
Not really. Like I've said before, I don't care about him scoring 30 or getting 20 FGAs per game.I know you Kawhi fanboys want to see him dominate the ball like Kobe so you can jerk off to his statlines, but he needs another perimeter player to help take the scoring/playmaking load off him.
But 'this fan boy' knows three things.
1-The Spurs won't win many games in playoffs if Kawhi is relegated to the corner for whole quarters.
2-The Spurs won't win playoffs games with Parker as #2 option anymore.
3-The Spurs won't win a playoffs series again if they don't keep Kawhi aggressive on the offensive end in the regular season, put him in pressure situations, give him the ball to learn to run some offense.
If Parker will run everything in the next games we should forget about Kawhi gaining experience.
What? Enrique hasn't done against GS since they became legit contenders. Thompson is the type of defender that has always given him fits.
You're putting way too much importance on the PG position. The offense isn't PG oriented. You're saying if Kawhi and LMA beast, rest of the starters play well, and the bench plays well (all of which will be necessary to go all the way regardless of who's at PG) that the Spurs wouldn't get past the WCF simply bc Paddy's A-game isn't good enough? That's pretty dumb logic imo.
Are they serious contenders? Maybe HOU is a poor dark horse. The others don't matter.
We also saw this same bull in '15.
Porker looks like , Kawhi carries the team, Porker improves, slowly but surely the Spurs go away from Kawhi. Playoffs come around and Enrique has a historically bad series and leads the team in FGAs in a pivotal Game 7. You're insane if you think Enrique should be more than a role player at this point.
House's "huge" 11 point game in the opener was the first time he's scored in double digits against the Warriors since they became contenders. Yes, Parker hasn't done much over that time frame as well, but even so, he still performs better than House. And considering that Parker is taller than 5'8" and has penetration ability, he's the much better option.
No team wins today without at least good PG play today. That's why I'm putting "importance" on it. LMA and Kawhi both play what some would call "out-dated" styles of offense, focused on posting up and mid range shooting, both of which have comparatively low PPS averages to the style of basketball someone like James Harden or KD plays. To offset any potential problems that style might create, the Spurs need a player who can break the defense down consistently off the dribble and finish with a high percentage shot or create open shots (preferably 3 pointers) for others. Parker is really the only player on the roster who can do such. Manu is too old and TO prone. And Mills, as has been said a million times, isn't a PG.
I'll say it again. Those with a hard on for Mills as a starter need to pe ion Pop and tell him to find a playmaking SG who isn't 60 to start with him.
Tbh
so there's only 3 contenders then (SA, CLE, GS) and we've only played GS once..
Tell me another player on this team aside from the top two who are capable of averaging 19.2 over 5 games on 60% shooting?
You can't. I don't necessarily like it, but there's no other choice than to hope Parker comes up aces in the playoffs. The co ty idea doesn't work. Never really has in NBA history. You need a well defined "3rd option" in the lineup. It looked like it was going to be Gasol, but Parker, once again, has showed something. Also, I don't like the 3 primary options all being front court options. Horrible floor balance.
Primary point is House isn't a solution to anything. It's Parker or bust AGAIN.
All star
You said 'Porker has killed Wardell & Co.' though. That was a dumb comment and had nothing to do with Paddy. Porker's penetration ability is prone to disappear when you put taller guys like Thompson or Sefalosha on him. His extra inches mean jack when there's literally noone in GS's starting unit that he can guard. The Mark Jackson led Warriors won a playoff game in SA years ago by literally force feeding whoever Porker was guarding.
The Spurs rode Kawhi and LMA last year and weren't that far away. If MVPaddy and LDN bring their A-game during the OKC series the Spurs win that series. Would Porker playing at this level make things easier? Absolutely. But it's far from being a necessity in today's game to win.
If Porker plays like he has the last week he's the better option. Otherwise Paddy is better regardless of whether he has a playmaking SG by his side.
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