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    I've been noticing this for a long time now. If there's a loose ball, he'll go gather it on a dribble or two and then he'll clutch the ball. Then he'll start an entirely new dribble as if he hadn't already dribble. And the refs let him get away with it all the time. Once, I saw a ref call it; and he was pissed. He either doesn't know the rule, or he thinks it's just something one should not be called on.

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    I've noticed that as well. He had a bad one tonight. He doed it often on breaks when he steals the ball.

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    Leonard is a two time DPOY..He's top 10 in the defensive end in terms of getting away with calls after a defensive play.

    Which is crazy because at his level, he should be getting away with all sorts of Murder.

    Guys like Draymond, Allen etc get more benefit of the doubt.

    At leonards level, he shouldnt bem even be called for touch foulsm

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    Is this a complaint?

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    Bad habit I guess

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    Dedmon dunking is the guy who gets very little leeway with the refs unfortunately.

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    Leonard is a two time DPOY..He's top 10 in the defensive end in terms of getting away with calls after a defensive play.

    Which is crazy because at his level, he should be getting away with all sorts of Murder.

    Guys like Draymond, Allen etc get more benefit of the doubt.

    At leonards level, he shouldnt bem even be called for touch foulsm
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    Is this a complaint?
    Well, you never know with these guys...It seems like they think this "refs let him get away with it all the time" is something bad.

    I can hear them...'why the refs don't call it? make Kawhi to pay for IT'

    Finally a Spurs player has the benefit of refs in some kind of play and then suddenly they're complaining about...

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    Refs allow players to gain control of the ball before starting their dribble. Just because the ball hits the floor after hitting his hand doesn't mean it's a controlled dribble. However Tony carries the ball any time he crosses over. His hand goes beneath the ball. In fact, a carry could be called any time the ball suddenly moves parallel to the ground at the top of the dribble, but then every decent PG in the league would be called on every trip down.

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    lmfao I've noticed it before. It appears to me to be a controlled dribble, I think it's just one of those things that they don't want to call because it's so minute. Hopefully it doesn't us over in a critical moment.

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    He has some of the most fundamental coaching staff in the world. I rarely if ever see him double dribble.

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    Refs allow players to gain control of the ball before starting their dribble. Just because the ball hits the floor after hitting his hand doesn't mean it's a controlled dribble. However Tony carries the ball any time he crosses over. His hand goes beneath the ball. In fact, a carry could be called any time the ball suddenly moves parallel to the ground at the top of the dribble, but then every decent PG in the league would be called on every trip down.
    Tbh from parker and nash before to kyrie and tons of pgs today

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    lmfao I've noticed it before. It appears to me to be a controlled dribble, I think it's just one of those things that they don't want to call because it's so minute. Hopefully it doesn't us over in a critical moment.
    I just hope we have a critical moment.

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    I just hope we have a critical moment.
    Bend over Ill give ya a critical moment

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    He has some of the most fundamental coaching staff in the world. I rarely if ever see him double dribble.
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    Bend over Ill give ya a critical moment
    You'll fall in love again. Can't have it.

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    Not as much as Curry getting away with carrying the ball

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    I've been noticing this for a long time now. If there's a loose ball, he'll go gather it on a dribble or two and then he'll clutch the ball. Then he'll start an entirely new dribble as if he hadn't already dribble. And the refs let him get away with it all the time. Once, I saw a ref call it; and he was pissed. He either doesn't know the rule, or he thinks it's just something one should not be called on.
    Possession doesn't start until a player has COMPLETE control of the ball, that's why the shot-clock doesn't reset on loose balls where a defender momentarily gains possession of the ball but loses it.

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    Leonard is my favorite player but it's obvious he is now receiving preferential ref treatment tbh...

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    Leonard is my favorite player but it's obvious he is now receiving preferential ref treatment tbh...
    As do star players, I'd rather it manifest itself at the FT line. he's averaging about 7 a game. If can be an top 10 player in terms of getting to the line during his prime, that would be very helpful.

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    It's becoming more and more prevalent in the NBA, and the refs just aren't calling it. Not disputing that Kawhi does it. But you just watch the Spurs more, and more closely. Start looking for it and you'll see it everywhere.

    And, yes, it's not different than carrying. They all do it, but it's getting more exaggerated. The league has clearly made a choice not to call carrying anymore. Because under the rules we all learned, they would have to call it on every single possession. Eventually they would quit, but that would take a LOT of the highlight reels out of the game. And that would cost ratings.

    Bottom line, it's all about the ratings. I will say that Kawhi could survive without the double dribble a lot better than 100% of the PG's could survive without carrying. A few years back, I posed some pictures of Curry, and how incredibly far his hand gets under the ball. Without that, he would still be a great shooter. But a lot of the magic he does moving the ball just wouldn't be possible. The league likes what he does, because it makes money. They aren't going to change how they call games. Period. No sense ing about it.

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    It's merely a crab dribble, tbh.

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    He also tends to walk before dunking on wide open dunks

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    His big hands just create an illusion

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    His big hands just create an illusion
    The guy never fully touches the basketball with his hands. People watching from TV can be tricked.

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