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you are ing delusional.
you've become as incoherent as your buddy Chucho. You guys rilly rilly can't take my slapping with nothing other than throwing Repugs' own bull in your faces.
Boo, your partisan cheerleader hypocrisy knows no bounds...
Have you forgotten "You have to pass it to read it?"
you are ing delusional.
Have you ever looked for just a little more context than a 4 second sound bit? Pelosi is a head but this meme is played out
you are ing delusional.
Just because it is embarrassing and a perfect description of how the ACA was forced through doesn't mean you can just call it "played out" and pretend it doesn't exist.
how forced? because Dems won? because Repugs refused to vote for ANYTHING Dem for 8 years?
If Repugs lose, Dems forced?
Dems passed a law saves lies. Repugs pass laws, start wars that kill Ms.
Because the Dems passed it without really understanding the law - it's 1000s of pages long - who really read it? It was cooked up by Gruber, your usual rant suspects (ins. co, bigpharma, etc) and the Dems just went along - basically it expands coverage mostly through Medicaid expansion but does little to control costs - instead forcing the premiums, deductibles and co-pays UP with its 10 essential benefits and covering pre-existing conditions without a high enough penalty for dropping.how forced? because Dems won? because Repugs refused to vote for ANYTHING Dem for 8 years?
If Repugs lose, Dems forced?
Dems passed a law saves lies. Repugs pass laws, start wars that kill Ms.
goddam, you're stupid
If ACA would have directly controlled BigHealthcare's costs, the it would have Harry-and-Louise'd.
BigHealthCare makes govt policy, not the govt. And BigCorp writes the ing laws and regs for Repugs at Federal, state levels, which are passed blindly by your Repugs.
"basically it expands coverage mostly through Medicaid expansion"
it does a of a lot more, but your hate for ACA is well understood.
I prefer to make my own decisions regarding how my health dollars are spent. Others don't trust Americans to make their own decisions and so government does a one-size fits all program. Well, one size doesn't fit all - especially where our health is concerned. We are all so different - I happen to think that each individual knows themselves best and it's a more efficient use of money to cater to an individual person than well, everyone should have an EKG at age 50 or a mammogram at age 40 or a colonoscopy at age 50 or .... I think that money is better spent allowing HSA $ to be spent on diet and exercise programs to say bring down the obesity rate or focus on what an individual's family history indicates. But nah, that's just too much for my stupid brain to handle - here, let some government program take over 1/6 of the economy and do it for us all.
GOP Begins Obamacare Repeal With Post-Midnight Vote
Though Republicans haven’t coalesced around a replacement for the Affordable Care Act, a 51-48 vote in the dead of night passed a budget setting the repeal process in motion.
Democrats put forward amendments to protect women’s health services and coverage for pre-existing conditions, but both were defeated by Republicans,
http://www.ozy.com/presidential-daily-brief/pdb-75066?utm_source=pdb&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign =01122017&variable=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a59503 1#article75081
the Repug mother ers don't any clue of where they're going, or what they're doing, just blindly, ideologically up as much and as quick as they can, no matter how many people are denied health care, are pushed into poverty, suffer untreated diseases, and die.
govt doesn't write your health insurance policy, health insurance companies do. They decide how your dollars are spent and which coverage you'll receive.
Sorry, boutons, but ACA states every policy shall have 10 essential benefits - remember those - all that maternity coverage, pediatric vision and dental coverage, blood tests, mammograms, etc. (that half the population can't use) that drive up the costs.
It actually reduces the cost for people who need the coverage as the cost is spread across a larger user base, most of which won't use the coverage. Which is the point. Otherwise people who may need the coverage pay an exorbitant amount.
give up. RMT's ideology trumps all rational understanding, eg, how insurance works.
You're right. That's exactly the point. Why should I as someone who doesn't need the coverage pay for someone that does?
Ever hear of Bad Breaks, Superman?
Is that your rationalization?
why should I buy auto insurance? no one's ever t-boned me at 80 mph
Well I'm sure your old ass won't mind if all Millenials stop paying social security right? Why should they contribute to something your old mooching ass is going to milk dry?
That just shows how confused you are. Your "social security tax" is an accounting fraud. There is no dedicated fund that you pay into that pays current benefits.
get back to us when the US stops sending SS checks.
Not even remotely the point, but thank you sooooooooo much for the tip, grandpa.
Funny how everyone in this country is mooching and it's totally unfair socialist bull ....unless you're old and white, then magically it's not mooching any more.
OLD WHITE POWER!
Try harder.
They all complain about the high cost but see nothing wrong with every policy having these 10 essential benefits - which cannot be used by half the population. IMO, use the $ wisely and effectively. Go for cheap, catastrophic insurance for everyone. Let each individual decide how to spend the other insurance $s. Are you obese - allow diet/exercise programs with HSA $. Do I have breast cancer in the family - do mammogram/ultrasound every year - don't do an EKG on me just because Obamacare will pay for it when I have no heart disease family history and my blood pressure/cholesterol numbers are perfect. Why should I or all males pay for maternity or pediatric vision and dental coverage?
Funny you should compare to auto insurance - the equivalent to ACA would be old, safe drivers paying the same premiums as young, reckless ones and letting those reckless, dangerous drivers the same access to auto insurance no matter how many accidents they have been in/continue to be in. What do you think is going to happen to auto ins premiums? And those premiums also now cover routine maintenance like oil changes, tire replacement, etc? Same thing as ACA - soon, we ALL can't afford auto insurance.
I think this is all about control - the Dems want government control and I want personal responsibility/control. There are limited $ - you have all seen both Vermont and Colorada vote down single payer because it is TOO expensive. C'mon - where are all your solutions to this fiasco? I say insurance for catastrophes, DIRECT payment (no insurance) of all non-emergency stuff, use of medical tourism and sharing of HSA $s between family, relatives, acquaintances, charity (if you feel so inclined - allow tax-free contributions to other's health expenses).
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