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    Crow now being served.
    Not sure who's eating crow iyo but what Clapper appears to be doing is separating their official report with the buzzfeed report as Trump's strategy appears to be to conflate the two in an effortb to muddy the waters.

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    Clapper statement confirms CNN's report.

    So, what was all that about fake news again?

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    cnn reported than an unsubstantiated dossier was presented to the president in his briefing

    buzzfeed published the unsubstantiated dossier

    none of the intelligence agencies, to my knowledge, ever came to the conclusion that it was credible

    fake news! liberals eating crow!


    granted... it was pretty irresponsible to publish that with no corroboration otherwise it's just a smear job tbh

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    Clapper statement confirms CNN's report.

    So, what was all that about fake news again?
    Also true.

    CC needs to explain who he thinks is eating crow. Sure Clapper delineated his agency from the report, but also confirmed he thought it was more credible than pizzagate, credible enough to brief the POTUS an PEOTUS on it.

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    Surely Trump is going to angry-tweet about Clapper being a liar since he's confirming a fake news outlet's fake news story.

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    Ask Donald.

    Why not just say " I realize the gravity of these uncorroborated claims. They of course are completely untrue, and I am still discussing with my advisors, president Obama, and the IC how this information even made it up the ladder. It is also of concern that the subject of our meeting got out as it is an unnecessary distraction at a very important time."

    Is the above really that hard? Or is it a dumb down for the trumpets...

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    Mr Leader of Birterism is pissed somebody put out some on HIM? Did someone disrespect the bas ?

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    This will all be overshadowed by the stupid Trump does next week.

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    cnn reported than an unsubstantiated dossier was presented to the president in his briefing

    buzzfeed published the unsubstantiated dossier

    none of the intelligence agencies, to my knowledge, ever came to the conclusion that it was credible

    fake news! liberals eating crow!


    granted... it was pretty irresponsible to publish that with no corroboration otherwise it's just a smear job tbh

    Clapper didn't state that they presented it to Trump during the briefing and that isn't all CNN reported. I agree they should do a better job verifying what they report, unfortunately it's becoming more of a norm to report first, retract later (WaPo).

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    Thanks, Obama.

    No, really.

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    They did change for the worst. The fact Clipper Nation cant see---or won't admit it says everything you need to know about him. Not interested in facts.

    Wikileaks did stand for something years ago. Now they're just acting like a bunch of babies because big bad wolf Hillary was once after me so I'm going on a revenge kick.
    What did wikileaks stand for years ago?

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    Clapper didn't state that they presented it to Trump during the briefing and that isn't all CNN reported. I agree they should do a better job verifying what they report, unfortunately it's becoming more of a norm to report first, retract later (WaPo).
    We can't take away from the first amendment, but what we can do is have a law passed that for every story reported wrong, and equal amount of time, money, and the same viewing window be used to retract the story.

    If a station spent 2 hrs in a week reporting a story that ends up being false, and the next week has to spend two hours retracting it... How many times might CNN et. al. report false stories, until they fact check better?

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    We can't take away from the first amendment, but what we can do is have a law passed that for every story reported wrong, and equal amount of time, money, and the same viewing window be used to retract the story.

    If a station spent 2 hrs in a week reporting a story that ends up being false, and the next week has to spend two hours retracting it... How many times might CNN et. al. report false stories, until they fact check better?
    Big Government... Again.

    Let the market for truth take care of this.

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    Big Government... Again.

    Let the market for truth take care of this.
    there is no such market

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    We can't take away from the first amendment, but what we can do is have a law passed that for every story reported wrong, and equal amount of time, money, and the same viewing window be used to retract the story.

    If a station spent 2 hrs in a week reporting a story that ends up being false, and the next week has to spend two hours retracting it... How many times might CNN et. al. report false stories, until they fact check better?
    Goddamn youre one nazi libertarian .

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    It was his work on corruption in international soccer that lent credence to his reporting on Trump's entanglements in Russia, U.S. officials said on Wednesday.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN14W0HN

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    Big Government... Again.

    Let the market for truth take care of this.

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    John McCain:
    "Upon examination of the contents, and unable to make a judgment about their accuracy, I delivered the information to the Director of the FBI. That has been the extent of my contact with the FBI or any other government agency regarding this issue."

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...rmation-to-fbi
    Had the source of the dossier been verified? Had the dossier been verified?

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    TSA-like posters are more incline to believe that 4chan made this up and that the CIA decided to trust some random guy with this information from that site, rather than trusting the agency and it's vetting process.

    They decided to include this piece of information in the intelligence briefing for a reason and I'm willing to bet it goes beyond just the 4chan factor. The minute we start questioniong whether the CIA cant vet a place like 4chan properly is the minute we should all start to worry about our safety.

    4Chan is like the lowest denominator of the internet. A joke site known for trolling.
    Start worrying about your safety, the golden shower bit most definitely came from 4chan and made it's way onto the 35 page dossier.

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    Which is is why I called out Insanity Index's ridiculous flow chart. It's more important than his silly ramblings but he can't see it.
    Was the golden shower bit on the 35 page dossier yes or no?

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    They CIA can always fall back on this.

    The decision to inform Trump and Obama of this as opposed to hundreds other " we have learned " . If the CIA says they took this apparently singly British origin stuff and stamped it important why?

    Did this agent give a whole lot of other stuff that turned out to be valid in the same report or what? They really can go further without compromising security I would think. The CIA needs to start following Insanity Index and giving his reports to all important government employees.
    Yes the agent's 35 page dossier was so filled with other important stuff that the intelligence community condensed it down to a two page summary

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    TSA-like posters are more incline to believe that 4chan made this up and that the CIA decided to trust some random guy with this information from that site, rather than trusting the agency and it's vetting process.

    They decided to include this piece of information in the intelligence briefing for a reason and I'm willing to bet it goes beyond just the 4chan factor. The minute we start questioniong whether the CIA cant vet a place like 4chan properly is the minute we should all start to worry about our safety.

    4Chan is like the lowest denominator of the internet. A joke site known for trolling.
    Reck, you are such a tool....

    Director of National Intelligence James Clapper on Wednesday reaffirmed to President-elect Trump that although the 35-page dossier that Buzzfeed published on Tuesday has been circulating around the federal government for months, it is not an official intelligence community product and was likely not leaked by intelligence employees.

    "I emphasized that this do ent is not a U.S. Intelligence Community product and that I do not believe the leaks came from within the IC. The IC has not made any judgment that the information in this do ent is reliable, and we did not rely upon it in any way for our conclusions," Clapper said in a statement .
    "I expressed my profound dismay at the leaks that have been appearing in the press, and we both agreed that they are extremely corrosive and damaging to our national security," Clapper added.

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    Trump and Clapper "dismayed" by leaks?

    G M A F B ... Leaks are the lifeblood of DC

    UK has asked its media not publish the name Chris Steele, the guy who produced the "russkies have dirt on Trash" do ent.

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    Former MI6 officer Christopher Steele, who produced Donald Trump Russian dossier, 'terrified for his safety' and went to ground before name released

    A former MI6 officer who produced a dossier making lurid allegations about Donald Trump is “terrified for his safety” after he was unmasked by a US publication.

    Christopher Steele, 52, fled from his home in Surrey on Wednesday morning after realising it was only a matter of time until his name became public knowledge.


    A source close to Mr Steele said on Wednesday night that he now fears a prompt and potentially dangerous backlash against him from Moscow.

    His research was initially funded by anti-Trump Republicans, and later by Democrats.

    For months, he had been playing a dangerous game; tipping off journalists about what he said

    he had discovered from his sources in Russia about Donald Trump’s alleged dealings with the Kremlin, as well as claims that the FSB had hugely compromising information about Mr Trump’s activities during visits to the country.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/11/former-mi6-officer-produced-donald-trump-russian-dossier-terrified/

    Anybody know what polonium tastes like, if anything?



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    Trump and Clapper "dismayed" by leaks? G M A F B Leaks are the lifeblood of DC

    UK has asked its media not publish the name Chris Steele, the guy who produced the "russkies have dirt on Trash" do ent.

    ==============

    Former MI6 officer Christopher Steele, who produced Donald Trump Russian dossier, 'terrified for his safety' and went to ground before name released

    A former MI6 officer who produced a dossier making lurid allegations about Donald Trump is “terrified for his safety” after he was unmasked by a US publication.

    Christopher Steele, 52, fled from his home in Surrey on Wednesday morning after realising it was only a matter of time until his name became public knowledge.


    A source close to Mr Steele said on Wednesday night that he now fears a prompt and potentially dangerous backlash against him from Moscow.

    His research was initially funded by anti-Trump Republicans, and later by Democrats.

    For months, he had been playing a dangerous game; tipping off journalists about what he said

    he had discovered from his sources in Russia about Donald Trump’s alleged dealings with the Kremlin, as well as claims that the FSB had hugely compromising information about Mr Trump’s activities during visits to the country.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/11/former-mi6-officer-produced-donald-trump-russian-dossier-terrified/

    Anybody know what polonium tastes like, if anything?



    Clapper? He's the same SOB that lied under oath at least once already.

    The .

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    Big Government... Again.

    Let the market for truth take care of this.
    It's Justice.

    They lie about someone, it's their penalty.

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