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They executed well and got one of their best 3 point shooters an open shot. Manu just missed it. happens but execution offensively was fine.
What is Pop doing with the vets? Is he actually going to finish playoff games with Manu and TP? Even though they are almost done as big game closers, are we going to see guys like Gasol, Manu and TP out there with the game on the line?
I mean, the game last night, in particular, Manu was shooting the ball horrendously and had missed pretty badly on some of his prior three-point attempts. He had no business being out there for the last play with the way he was playing (let alone taking the shot for the win). That last shot emphasised how poorly he played last night and how off his shot was, yet he was out there with a shot that I think should have gone to someone like Bertans. I would have felt much better with Bertans taking that very same shot. Could he not see Manu was having a poor shooting game? Does he just not have the guts to play any of the younger players?
You cannot be riding Manu, TP or Gasol in 2017 and expect to win many playoff games. These guys aren't the same players they used to be. Is he ever going to realise this? If they were younger, sure, you give them another chance, but at their current ages, I think he has to be a lot more selective. If they don't have it going, why not stick with Jonathon Simmons who was having a much better overall game than Manu? Why not have Mills out there for the last play as he's a better overall shooter at PG?
Speaking of the last play, why did he pull Bertans out when Bertans showed no fear whatsoever in taking the shot? He's the type of player you want out there taking a shot with the game on the line. I can live with a shot like the one he missed last night because he shot it with complete and utter confidence. It was a great shot that just missed. You can live with shots like that.When is he going to give the young guys chances in crunch time situations instead of reverting back to the old guys? It kind of seems like he's half-assing it. It doesn't seem like he wants the number 1 seed, so if he doesn't care about it, why not give the younger guys more of a chance so that they can gain experience in end of game situations?
They executed well and got one of their best 3 point shooters an open shot. Manu just missed it. happens but execution offensively was fine.
Nothing wrong with the play itself. However, last night, Manu couldn't hit the broadside of a barn, he shouldn't have even been out there taking the shot. On the other hand, Bertans, who shot very well was sitting on the bench. Why?
Pop may appear too think to notice the obvious, but I hope he realized that the game-winning basket was shot by a rookie.
Then again, Pop may argue that the rookie is older than many of the Bucks' more established players, and use that rationale to stick with his old guns.
Bertans had just missed one tbf
Pop just trusts Manu more in those kind of situations, but I agree he shouldn't have taken that shot, maybe he would've made it any other night, but he was so off yesterday
From the looks of it, Pop entrusted the ball to kawhi..Kawi saw a wide open opportunity and he passed it. It looked like he just wanted kawhi to ISO and get a decent look at a two pointer...
Defenses collapsed and it left manu wide open.
It was probably a decoy. If you put Bertans in, his defender wont leave him at all. The defense wont collapse. If Kawhi puts himself in an awkward situation, its going to be an awkward shot...with no one topass the ball to.
Not defending pop, just trying to come up with his logic.
Btw, outside of Manus horrendous shot...The play was perfectly executed. Kawhi broke the defense down, Pau's hand off was great, wide open shot...
Its really hard to argue outside of maybe another player should be taking that shot.
Not sure if the execution was that great...Manu man literally fell down
We got two good looks in the last 15 seconds or so, I wouldn't say anything about the plays Pop drew
...Logic. Maybe you're right. Bertans is a great 3p shooter who also has a hot hand recently. Give a guy like that a do over and he makes it a lot of the time. But if Pop thinks the Bucks will hang all over him? I guess.
But if the play wasn't for Manu to take a 3 (and I don't think it was) wouldn't it have been better to have a defender locked up on a decoy on the 3p line?
Honestly I wouldn't have minded seeing Pay take a mid jumper. He's tall enough to get that off over just about anyone. I just hate "hand it to Kawhi" and create. Not just Kawhi - anyone. Pop is known for great plays out of a time out. That wasn't one. That was just Kawhi.
When coaches call "plays" it's never designed for one player to take a shot..Maybe ty coaches.
Pop set that up knowing Kawhi would have to make a decision after that hand-off..Players make reads not cooaches...It was a decent setup that opened multiple opportunities. Kawhi saw ot best to pass the ball instead of shooting over two defenders...Manu just shot the bed. Not manus fault too though...players miss shots it happens.
Yes, I think if it had rolled around the rim and came out, people would feel like you do. The fact that he was wide open and it hit the side of the backboard is what is giving people heartache.
They had just ran a play to get him wide open. It seems far fetched to think he'd get another good look. In fact, Danny Green was wide open behind Kawhi too, it just happened Manu got the ball and had a tough night.
I think this was about Kawhi having the ball in his hands. The play didn't work out, but big picture? This is great learning experience for Kawhi.
Manu was the easier pass. It was a wide open lane pass. I mean, you coulnt ask for the guy handling the ball more..If you see a wide open teamste that shotsbthe corner three at a great rate, you pasd it.
Shooting is really one of tose skills where it shouldnt matter ifyou are 39...it makes no difference ifa 25 year old is taking that shot.
To Manu's credit.... that was a terrible sloppy pass by Kiwi. Was surprised he caught it
Bertans got a good look for 3 and it just rimmed out
Manu got a wide open look and it missed
If anything pops plays worked perfectly but as pringles would say, "gah's just didn't make shahts"
But he hit the narrower side of the backboard which a lot harder tbh
Credit to Manu for that accomplishment.
For sure. He made the correct play. Manu has hit big 3s before, he just missed terribly.
I would've liked Green to be the guy to go to the corner personally, he's more of a corner 3 guy than Manu. And ironically where Green was, was more of Manus spot.
On to the next
Yep, I believe Kawhi/the team executed the play Pop had in mind. The game was lost on defense the whole game long not on the last offensive possession.
I don't know... Seems like Danny likes that +/- 45% angle 3-ball very well.
He does for sure. but between the 2 for that corner 3, I like Green more.
He's been pretty money from most spots though
Manu can hit em' from the corner, but he's much better at the other spots
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Manu's last shot was awful, but WTF was Pop doing drawing a 3 for Bertans when we were only down one?? And then why was Manu shooting a 3 when we were only down 2? Both times the play should have been to go inside to get 2 or a foul or both. I know LA was out but why else did we go get Gasol this off-season? Is there any situation that cries out for him more? I mean, I know he hasn't been great, but aside from a Leonard 2 (not gonna happen because they were keying on him) or a Green 3 (he was cold last night) why not go to the veteran former all-star for an inside shot? smh
I always have a hard time deciding if you're trolling, or just that ing clueless.
So Pop never used a timeout to call a Scissor 43 Go? Or does Pop just not know who the 3 is on that play? When he calls that hammer play to get an open corner 3, he doesn't have any idea who might be standing in the corner? Yeah, some plays are designed with options, depending on what the defense does. And if the play breaks down and the clock is running out, they have to improvise. But damn. Surely you must have seen at least a few plays over the years that were specifically to get Manu a shot? Or Tim?
Even you can't be that ignorant.
I wonder if people hear post-games interviews...Kawhi said Manu's shot was the shot the team wanted. That's why he was on the court.
It never was a Kawhi Iso, from the begining it was a penetrate and dish.
Picking the right shooter is a significant difference between win or lose.
And that's OP point.
Why Manu? Why Pop continues to rely on the old men to close a game?
If Manu wasn't there, Danny would be in that corner or Bertans or even Patty...I'd rather to lose a game with a Davis/Danny shots instead of Manu's.
And why Parker? Defense knows that Parker won't take the shot...Why don't put Kawhi and four true shooters?
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