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    I sincerely hope that you never have to deal with a kid who is allergic to life - you wouldn't be laughing then. And you wonder why I homeschool with all that dairy and peanut butter at school.
    i sincerely hope your leech farm is thriving. ing dumbass doctors and scientists doing research and science. My great grandfather told me those bloodsuckers cure stupidity and AIDS. He never got either!

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    i sincerely hope your leech farm is thriving. ing dumbass doctors and scientists doing research and science. My great grandfather told me those bloodsuckers cure stupidity and AIDS. He never got either!
    Well, you have to see that I followed those doctors' advice to a tee regarding ds' allergies - AVOIDANCE, AVOIDANCE, AVOIDANCE. Of course, their advice now is EXPOSE, EXPOSE, EXPOSE as young as possible (peanut butter at 6 months instead of 3 years). Can't go back now. Actually, peanut butter is not too hard to avoid - but try avoiding dairy in America - on every door knob at school.

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    people get more conservative as they get older
    this is what old conservatives tell themselves

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    When someone watches her child have an anaphylactic reaction to a vaccine that the child has already had (2nd dose of DTap) and to which he's supposedly not allergic to and the pediatrician goes into a panic, administers epinephrine, yells at the mother because she threw away prednisolone (steroid) on HIS instruction, sends a rush order of prednisolone to the nearest pharmacy with instruction that he must carry it always and tells said mother not to come back to his office for vaccines, have the allergist administer in the hospital - is when I'll listen to anyone about mandatory immunizations. Never again. Until it happens to you, ...

    And these docs will not give a medical exemption for the other vaccines - only the one that resulted in an anaphylactic reaction. Even with an allergy like eggs, my son was injected with small amounts of chicken pox vaccine (egg-based) until the entire dosage was put in - took hours - but that was when I blindly followed doctors' advice instead of listening to my own gut reaction/instinct. Wish I had followed my uneducated dad's advice to give him everything (food) instead of allergist's avoidance advice. Too late now.
    Being anti-vaccine is a dis-qualifier for you? I'm old enough that I never took any of those vaccines (except polio) - got chickenpox, measles - brother got mumps - no big deal back then. But I also never knew anyone with allergies or asthma when I was young. With the rampant autism, allergies and asthma today - I'd be skeptical especially if it was in the family or happened to someone close to me.

    So are you anti vaccine because you're afraid of an allergic reaction or do you think the vaccines are responsible for the allergies? Not clear on that.

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    Don't tell me you're one of those nutjobs who thinks vaccines cause autism.
    No I think old es having babies is causing autism.

    But there's a difference between being anti thimerosal and being anti vaccine. All I've been able to find is RFK Jr. being anti thimerosal.

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    I would not believe anything the washington post says. Sounds like fearmongering to me

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    I would not believe anything the washington post says. Sounds like fearmongering to me
    So what do you read for news?

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    Don't tell me you're one of those nutjobs who thinks vaccines cause autism.

    A friend of mine in VA who voted for Obama in 08 is one of those wack jobs who is convinced that a vaccine caused her daughter's autism. She also rants about Obama being the Anti-Christ and she regrets voting for him in 08.

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    As you may guess from my posts, I'm against being FORCED to do anything. I wish people would not issue blanket statements like "vaccines are safe" or "vaccines don't cause autism." They have no idea which child might be on the edge health-wise/psychologically and if those vaccines are what pushed them over the edge. In California, I think there is now no religious exemption, no philosophical exemption, and I assume medical exemption ONLY for a specific vaccine for which there has been an anaphylactic reaction/immune system is compromised. That, imo, is too extreme.

    My child is very allergic - took one dose of DTap okay and had a severe reaction to the 2nd dose. It could be that there was something different in the second dose (years apart) or that each successive exposure is more severe. You have no idea how helpless it feels to both the doctor and parent when a child starts slipping away. And all for what - to prevent the chicken pox or measles that I had as a child that wasn't any big deal? The chicken pox vaccine isn't even effective - one of the Brownies in my troop had chicken pox even though she had her full set of immunizations to get into school in kindergarten. Look, my oldest is perfectly healthy and I'm fine with vaccines for her. My second has mild Asperger's and I always had doubts where he was concerned - after all, the parent knows him (developmentally) best. The last one - absolutely never again - I don't care what paper I have to sign to avoid them - I'll never risk it again.

    I don't think that vaccines are responsible for the allergies - I had upset stomach from the moment I got pregnant to the day he was born. I guess all that pizza, peanuts, eggs, etc I ate during my pregnancy gave him reactions which affected me too. But he was non-verbal until 4 (had to have tons of speech therapy) and if I had to do it all over again, no vaccine would ever enter his body - because nobody knows for sure. About the only vaccine I might risk would be the polio one but since polio is all but wiped out in the US and I'd never put him on a plane (peanut dust flying about), I probably wouldn't do that one either. All I'm saying (as with other stuff on this board) is that there are other POVs, other situations that warrant avoidance - and the mocking that goes on when others don't agree with the popular view point (I don't mean you personally) is so closed-minded - you never know until you're standing in those shoes.
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    Might as well finish the rant - who is the government to tell me what to do with/put in my or my child's body? They don't see the similarity with abortion? A vaccine is not something that can be taken back and if they do contribute in some way to autism, guess what - it's the parent/child who's stuck with it for the rest of their lives. What's wrong with if there is an outbreak - stay home - at least I'd like to be given that option instead of having to homeschool all the way through high school. And college - that's a whole 'nother story - haven't even checked with that yet.

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    I would not believe anything the washington post says. Sounds like fearmongering to me
    oh and saying "dont take so many vaccines because they cause (with no credible evidence to back it up) autism!" isn't fearmongering

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    oh and saying "dont take so many vaccines because they cause (with no credible evidence to back it up) autism!" isn't fearmongering
    And would you like it to be your child on whom they decided it does affect autism? Remember - can't take the vaccine back. I wonder how many first or only child out there have it and aren't reported? - either because the parent doesn't know or the pediatrician (if there's one) didn't diagnose. I know my well-vetted ped told me, "don't compare your son to your daughter - boys are behind in speech development" - that delayed his diagnosis - it wasn't until he was past 3 that she referred him for testing - past the government's Early Intervention Program age so I had to pay out of my pocket for therapy. Really wish there was the information available on the internet now back then. For the last one, I got him into EIP very early - didn't wait for a physician's referral.

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    A friend of mine in VA who voted for Obama in 08 is one of those wack jobs who is convinced that a vaccine caused her daughter's autism. She also rants about Obama being the Anti-Christ and she regrets voting for him in 08.
    Is she an old ? Prob why she had the defective kid tbh.

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    Is she an old ? Prob why she had the defective kid tbh.

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    Sweet jesus

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    Look, my oldest is perfectly healthy and I'm fine with vaccines for her. My second has mild Asperger's and I always had doubts where he was concerned - after all, the parent knows him (developmentally) best. The last one - absolutely never again - I don't care what paper I have to sign to avoid them - I'll never risk it again.

    I don't think that vaccines are responsible for the allergsie -
    Thanks for the answer. I think that's a reasonable position.

    As for the autism stuff, there was never the claim that vaccines caused autism. The claim was the mercury preservative in vaccines caused autism. Personally I don't think that is credible but the CDC didn't help matters when they tell the public that it is perfectly safe and at the same time tell the vaccine manufacturers to stop using it in children's vaccines.

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    there was never the claim that vaccines caused autism.
    lol

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    The autism question is one that nees to be answered in any case, tbh.

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    The autism question is one that nees to be answered in any case, tbh.
    does caprisun cause aids? the question needs to be answered

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    does caprisun cause aids? the question needs to be answered
    Clarifying: what has caused the increase birth rate of autistic children?

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    Clarifying: what has caused the increase birth rate of autistic children?
    old used up es having kids

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    Clarifying: what has caused the increase birth rate of autistic children?
    Proper diagnosis.

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    Perhaps.

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    Clarifying: what has caused the increase birth rate of autistic children?
    caprisun was introduced in the US in 1981. aids took off in the US in the early 80's. the question must be answered

    point being, sure lets answer the autism question... but why do we jump to vaccines as one of the places to look? there's nothing behind it

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    Is she an old ? Prob why she had the defective kid tbh.


    Nah she is fairly young. Probably around 31, 32. She has these dreams about weird stuff all the time and thinks they mean something. She talks about ghost and weird paranormal stuff happening in her house regularly. Her daughter not talking is probably a direct effect of her mom turning into a nut job.

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