Should Field goals?

[RD2191]

Wow. I think Avante and SuperCam have legit compe ion now for the worst football take of the year.

It adds absolutely nothing to the game.

[DeadlyDynasty]

It added to something for the Packers

[RD2191]

It added to something for the Packers

And Brady's legacy.

[SpursforSix]

The NFL has become dull and predictable enough nowadays without getting rid of things like onside kicks that can help make comebacks happen, missed FGs/XPs that keep games interesting, and big kickoff/punt returns that add a jolt of excitement to games. Plus, I'm pretty sure the players' and coaches' unions would have an issue with basically getting rid of special teams.

Get rid of the kicking game and the sport becomes even more quarterback-dependent than it already is.

I think it's be more exciting. Fourth and 3 on the opponent's 45 now becomes a possible time to go for it. Knowing that the other team can't just make 20 yards and kick an FG. Sure a returned kickoff is exciting but it's pretty rare. I'd rather see the excitement of 4th down plays where the ball is turned over if they don't make it. I wouldn't even care if they start the ball at the 50 for every possession and there are no punts. You have to get first down's or you lose the ball. As to onside kicks, recovery % is also very rare. Just figure out what that % is and have the kicking team spin a wheel based on that proportionate.

[monosylab1k]

Can't wait for his upcoming thread "Shouldn't teams with stars on their helmets be awarded 10 bonus points?"

[SpursforSix]

So if you want to go that route, why even continue to make it a game where field position actually matters? Why not just make it like a backyard game of thanksgiving football where each team takes turns starting at the same spot and tries to score

Yeah...I'm OK with that. Put it at the 50. Or cut the field in half and everyone starts on their goalline. Or just drop the ball out of the sky at the 50 after each score and see who gets it and where it ends up.

[RD2191]

So zero good arguments? I figured.

[clambake]

I think it's be more exciting. Fourth and 3 on the opponent's 45 now becomes a possible time to go for it. Knowing that the other team can't just make 20 yards and kick an FG. Sure a returned kickoff is exciting but it's pretty rare. I'd rather see the excitement of 4th down plays where the ball is turned over if they don't make it. I wouldn't even care if they start the ball at the 50 for every possession and there are no punts. You have to get first down's or you lose the ball. As to onside kicks, recovery % is also very rare. Just figure out what that % is and have the kicking team spin a wheel based on that proportionate.

then you wouldn't even need 100 yards

50 will do. more seats, a posh lounging area, maybe a spa or 2.

[SpursforSix]

then you wouldn't even need 100 yards

50 will do. more seats, a posh lounging area, maybe a spa or 2.

That's a good point but it pretty much s all the new billion dollar stadiums that are set up for 100 yards. Maybe it could be different for each venue. Like how baseball parks have different dimensions. It's up to the team how they want to build it. As long as it's within certain parameters. You might have a 100 x 50 field in Dallas and in Miami, a 50 x 50.

[Will Hunting]

Yeah...I'm OK with that. Put it at the 50. Or cut the field in half and everyone starts on their goalline. Or just drop the ball out of the sky at the 50 after each score and see who gets it and where it ends up.

And you actually think that would be entertaining to watch

[Clipper Nation]

The type of fans who about the kicking game won't be happy until every game turns into the NFL Quarterback Challenge.

[SpursforSix]

And you actually think that would be entertaining to watch

I hadn't given it much thought. I guess try it for a season and then see if I like it.

[clambake]

wouldn't it be safer if they didn't wear helmets or pads?


no way they would tackle the same. then no more injuries.

[RD2191]

And you actually think that would be entertaining to watch

Of course you enjoy field goals. You're light 3 without them.

[Will Hunting]

I hadn't given it much thought. I guess try it for a season and then see if I like it.

great logic, I'm sure the owners would go for that....."Let's potentially lose tons of money and piss off a bunch of fans by turning the NFL into a skills challenge for one full season just to see how it works!"

This might be hard for narcissistic cowboy fans to understand, but the rest of the NFL/its fans don't see the field goal as some big problem that it'd be worth it to sacrifice a season to address just because the Cowboys lost on one yesterday.

[Will Hunting]

Of course you enjoy field goals. You're light 3 without them.

That's telling me

"You'd be light three superbowls if football had a completely different set of rules!!!"

[monosylab1k]

Take away all kicking scores and the Cowboys lose 24-20 yesterday

Take away only field goals and they lose 28-22 kicking is what kept them in the game.

[SpursforSix]

great logic, I'm sure the owners would go for that....."Let's potentially lose tons of money and piss off a bunch of fans by turning the NFL into a skills challenge for one full season just to see how it works!"

This might be hard for narcissistic cowboy fans to understand, but the rest of the NFL/its fans don't see the field goal as some big problem that it'd be worth it to sacrifice a season to address just because the Cowboys lost on one yesterday.

The loss has nothing to do with my at ude about the kicking game. Maybe just try it for one season in one division in each conference. Play by the home team's rules

[Robz4000]

Take away all kicking scores and the Cowboys lose 24-20 yesterday

Take away only field goals and they lose 28-22 kicking is what kept them in the game.

Don't tell them that, they don't take to logic well...

[SpursforSix]

Take away all kicking scores and the Cowboys lose 24-20 yesterday

Take away only field goals and they lose 28-22 kicking is what kept them in the game.

Not really. Instead of kicking field goals, they would have gone for touchdowns and probably won the game.

[Will Hunting]

The loss has nothing to do with my at ude about the kicking game.

Im sure it's just a total coincidence you picked the day after the loss to start ing about it.

[SpursforSix]

Im sure it's just a total coincidence you picked the day after the loss to start ing about it.

LOL at me ing about it. Was just agreeing with Rob. I've thought it for a while but I don't like to start threads.

[RD2191]

Don't tell them that, they don't take to logic well...

Saystheninersfan

[Will Hunting]

Why would there be any reason to "try it" at all when the consensus among NFL teams and fans is that football is better with a kicking game? Is the expectation that the NFL experiment with every re ed idea that cowboys fans come up with?

[clambake]

push the goal post another 8 yards back.