Paul Ryan’s plan to phase out Medicare is just what Democrats need

[baseline bum]

Funny you should compare to auto insurance - the equivalent to ACA would be old, safe drivers paying the same premiums as young, reckless ones and letting those reckless, dangerous drivers the same access to auto insurance no matter how many accidents they have been in/continue to be in.

People are reckless drivers by choice. No one chooses to have a family history of cancer or heart problems.

[boutons_deux]

Republican governors plead to keep Medicaid

A number of Republican governors who have seen the benefits of Medicaid expansion—to their state budgets, to their hospitals, and particularly to their citizens—are fighting congressional Republicans over Obamacare repeal.

Trump's push comes as at least five of the 16 Republican governors of states that took federal money to expand Medicaid are advocating to keep it or warning GOP leaders of disastrous consequences if the law is repealed without a replacement that keeps millions of people covered.

They include Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker, Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson and Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval.

And more Republican governors may join with a Friday deadline to submit written proposals to Republican leadership on the Hill.[…]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/0...28Daily+Kos%29

Repug/VWRC/capitialists IDEOLOGY (govt cannot, must not, will not be For The People) trumps 10Ks of human lives.

[boutons_deux]

Paul Ryan lies to a cancer survivor, says he's not ripping his life-saving health insurance away



House Speaker Paul Ryan held a CNN town hall Thursday evening and was met with a cold dose of reality.

"Thanks to the Affordable Care Act, I’m standing here today alive," he said. "I rely on the Affordable Care Act to be able to purchase my own insurance. Why would you repeal the Affordable Care Act without a replacement?"

Ryan responded: "Oh, we wouldn’t do that, we want to replace it with something better. First of all, I'm glad you're standing here."

Jeans then took to the mic again to thank President Obama.

"I want to thank President Obama from the bottom of my heart, because I would be dead if it weren’t for him," he said.

Ryan remained unfazed, first lying to Mr. Jeans by saying they'll replace it with "something better." That. Will. Not. Happen. Then Ryan went on to "explain" that Obamacare is in a death spiral.

Enrollment numbers are going up and the system is not collapsing. That's just the reality.

But it’s a reality Ryan is callously denying.

Here's the truth: he and his fellow Republicans are trying to take Mr. Jean's health insurance away.

They're doing that without a plan in place to save his insurance, and potentially save his life. They've had six years to create a plan.

If they don't have one by now, they're not going to have one. And Paul Ryan is going to own the consequences.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/...insurance-away

[boutons_deux]

Obamacare Fact-Check Shows GOP Obamacare Claims Are Often False

President-elect Donald Trump says that President Barack Obama's health care law "will fall of its own weight."

House Speaker Paul Ryan says the law is "in what the actuaries call a death spiral."

And Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says that "by nearly any measure, Obamacare has failed."

The problem with all these claims: They are exaggerated, if not downright false.

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/obamacare-fact-check-shows-gop-obamacare-claims-are-often-false-n705151

[boutons_deux]

Congressman Steve King: Let’s Not Get ‘Bogged Down’ With Americans Dying from Obamacare Repeal

At least one Republican member of Congress admits that Americans dying from lack of healthcare access isn’t a huge concern to him.

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) isn’t waiting for a Republican replacement for the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) to repeal President Obama’s signature healthcare reform law. King introduced an Obamacare repeal bill on the first day of the 115th Congress, and told NPR’s Robert Siegel that even if the healthcare law were repealed with no replacement, he would still view that as a better option than Obamacare.

While acknowledging that immediate repeal of the Affordable Care Act would mean that roughly 20 million people would lose their health insurance, King wrote it off as collateral damage, stating that approximately 10.8 million of those people would still qualify for Medicaid. Although when it came to the remaining 9.2 million, Rep. King just shrugged.

“Under Obamacare, they always envisioned that 4 percent of the population would be uninsured even if it were fully implemented. So I wouldn’t want to be bogged down on that, but I would want to do the best thing we can for the maximum number of American people,” King said.

The Iowa Republican also made a particularly bizarre argument against the concept of healthcare as a right, seemingly

saying that allowing Americans to die from lack of healthcare access should be the natural order of things if people don’t buy health insurance prior to getting sick or injured.

“If we guarantee people that we will – that there will be a policy issued to them regardless of them not taking the responsibility to buy insurance before they were sick, that’s the equivalent of waiting for your house is on fire and then buying property and casualty insurance,” King said.

http://usuncut.com/politics/steve-king-obamacare-dying/

Repugs are the party of psychopathy, sociopathy.

btw, King is one the most extreme, edup Repugs who is also Catholic.

[spurraider21]

no one's ever t-boned me at 80 mph

damn shame

[CosmicCowboy]

People are reckless drivers by choice. No one chooses to have a family history of cancer or heart problems.

True, but in the ACA / auto insurance analogy you wouldn't even need to buy car insurance until after you had a wreck and then the insurance company would have to fix your car.

[boutons_deux]

Trump Voters and I Have One Thing in Common: We’re Scared of Losing Medicaid

The median household income in Owsley is just $19,146 per year.

The unemployment rate is double the national average, the majority of children live below the poverty line, and in 2011 more than half the county’s residents received food stamps.

When Medicaid was expanded under the Affordable Care Act, a whopping 66 percent of residents became eligible. And if you ask them about it, they express deep appreciation. Again and again.

“It’s been a godsend to me,” said a school custodian who suffered from a thyroid condition that practically immobilized her. Medicaid let her get treatment—and it paid for her cataract and carpal tunnel surgery.

Another resident lamented that without Medicaid, she couldn’t pay for the doctor’s visits to keep her hyperthyroidism in check. “If anything changed to make our insurance more expensive for us that would be a big problem,” she said.

Resident after resident in news article after news article acknowledged the price they would pay if these services disappeared.

But in the past two years, the residents of Owsley overwhelmingly voted for a governor, and then for a president, who want to eliminate the Affordable Care Act.

Now that the heat of the election has passed, they are anxious. And I understand why.

Medicaid expansion and replacing it with a fee paying system will return millions to the days of saving their change before seeking help.

Preventative care (the kind that could have caught my cancer earlier) or regular monthly appointments (the kind that could protect me from a cancer recurrence) will be curtailed or gone.

Instead, the poor everywhere will see the familiar front desk sign that reads “Payment is Due at the Time of Service.”

And we’ll go home.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/20...osing-medicaid

[boutons_deux]

Republican congressman sneaks away from cons uents demanding health care answers

Rep. Mike Coffman (R-CO) escaped out the back door of his own event before it was over to avoid the angry crowd.

https://thinkprogress.org/republican...44e#.af7f7w66q

[dbestpro]

Obamacare Fact-Check Shows GOP Obamacare Claims Are Often False

President-elect Donald Trump says that President Barack Obama's health care law "will fall of its own weight."

House Speaker Paul Ryan says the law is "in what the actuaries call a death spiral."

And Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says that "by nearly any measure, Obamacare has failed."

The problem with all these claims: They are exaggerated, if not downright false.

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/obamacare-fact-check-shows-gop-obamacare-claims-are-often-false-n705151

More fake news.

[dbestpro]

Trump Voters and I Have One Thing in Common: We’re Scared of Losing Medicaid

The median household income in Owsley is just $19,146 per year.

The unemployment rate is double the national average, the majority of children live below the poverty line, and in 2011 more than half the county’s residents received food stamps.

When Medicaid was expanded under the Affordable Care Act, a whopping 66 percent of residents became eligible. And if you ask them about it, they express deep appreciation. Again and again.

“It’s been a godsend to me,” said a school custodian who suffered from a thyroid condition that practically immobilized her. Medicaid let her get treatment—and it paid for her cataract and carpal tunnel surgery.

Another resident lamented that without Medicaid, she couldn’t pay for the doctor’s visits to keep her hyperthyroidism in check. “If anything changed to make our insurance more expensive for us that would be a big problem,” she said.

Resident after resident in news article after news article acknowledged the price they would pay if these services disappeared.

But in the past two years, the residents of Owsley overwhelmingly voted for a governor, and then for a president, who want to eliminate the Affordable Care Act.

Now that the heat of the election has passed, they are anxious. And I understand why.

Medicaid expansion and replacing it with a fee paying system will return millions to the days of saving their change before seeking help.

Preventative care (the kind that could have caught my cancer earlier) or regular monthly appointments (the kind that could protect me from a cancer recurrence) will be curtailed or gone.

Instead, the poor everywhere will see the familiar front desk sign that reads “Payment is Due at the Time of Service.”

And we’ll go home.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/20...osing-medicaid

Fake news.

[dbestpro]

Republican congressman sneaks away from cons uents demanding health care answers

Rep. Mike Coffman (R-CO) escaped out the back door of his own event before it was over to avoid the angry crowd.

https://thinkprogress.org/republican...44e#.af7f7w66q

.and the fake news continues.

[boutons_deux]

The simple, sinister reason for the GOP’s never-ending war on Obamacare

what Utah Senator Orrin Hatch called a "holy war" to block healthcare reform didn't start when Barack Obama took the oath of office in January 2009, but instead when Bill Clinton was inaugurated in 1993.

It was then that former Quayle chief of staff and Republican strategist William Kristol warned his GOP allies that a Clinton victory on health care could guarantee Democratic majorities for the foreseeable future. "The Clinton proposal is also a serious political threat to the Republican Party," Kristol wrote in his infamous December 3, 1993 memo led "Defeating President Clinton's Health Care Proposal,"

Approvingly citing Norman Markowitz' assertion at PoliticalAffairs.net that "national health care [and other measures] will bring reluctant voters into the Obama coalition," Cannon fretted that "making citizens dependent on the government for their medical care can change the fates of political parties." For arch conservatives, that formula spells trouble for the GOP.

James Pethokoukis of the American Enterprise Ins ute also picked up Kristol's baton. Concerned that "creating the Obamacare Class would pull America to the left,"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/0...28Daily+Kos%29

[boutons_deux]

Even Lots of Republicans Think the Feds Should Guarantee Health Care For All




http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...ealth-care-all

Doesn't matter Repugs are gone hard Trash's voters.

[rmt]

Even Lots of Republicans Think the Feds Should Guarantee Health Care For All




http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...ealth-care-all

Doesn't matter Repugs are gone hard Trash's voters.

The key is LOWER INCOME - who wouldn't want free or subsidized health care - regardless of Repub or Dem? What about the rest of us who are paying $1800 per month to cover the family - regardless of Repub or Dem? That's 50% more than I pay for my mortgage. It's a re-distribution of wealth - $2500 less in premium, keep your doctor, keep your plan - what a crock of lies to sell this crap of a law.

[boutons_deux]

The key is a criminally overpriced, predatory, wealth-sucking health care industry where profits override care.

[rmt]

The key is a criminally overpriced, predatory, wealth-sucking health care industry where profits override care.

That's your opinion - nothing to do with the graph/article you posted. Of course, LOWER INCOME people of whatever party want freebies and subsidies. Who/which party passed that criminally overpriced, predatory, wealth-sucking health care law where profits override care? That's right - Obama and the Dems. You can't blame this on the Repubs.

[pgardn]

rmt vehemently disagrees with Trump on this one and sides with Ryan.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...edicare-233610

Trump says all en lements can stay in place and everyone can be covered by his new health care.
Just grow the economy.

Republicans have the ball and are close to fumbling it. Hopefully they come to some agreement and donot leave us in limbo like the Brexiters have done to Britian. The hammer will fall. Lets get it together. Lets lead.

[boutons_deux]

Michigan Republican trashes Trump to calm town hall crowd angered by Obamacare repeal



The cons uents who arrived early enough to take part quickly peppered Amash with questions on climate change, the repeal of President Barack Obama’s health care law and other political issues.

“Do you or do you not support the immediate repeal of the Affordable Care Act with or without a replacement?” one attendee asked.

Amash told the cons uent that he expected state governments to come up with a replacement for the health care reform law — and the crowd erupted in anger.

The crowd frequently interrupted Amash during the town hall, and members of the audience repeatedly

insisted the lawmaker refer to the law as the Affordable Care Act instead of Obamacare.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/mich...e+Raw+Story%29

Kock Bros and Trash are certainly going primary this guy, he won't be coming back to Congress.

[boutons_deux]

ACA Enrollment Highest In States That Voted Trump

“Sometimes you have to vote against your own interests if you want to vote against the interests of everyone else.”

Nina Mendel RETIRED FRANCOPHILE

http://www.theonion.com/americanvoic...ed-trump-55082

[boutons_deux]

Republicans Are Trapped In An Obamacare Nightmare As Only 22% Of US Wants Law Repealed

Repealing Obamacare has turned into a total political nightmare for Republicans.

According to a new CBS News poll, only 22% of Americans want the law repealed.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/18/republicans-trapped-obamacare-nightmare-22-law-repealed.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=fee d&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Poli ticus+USA+%29

Ryan and the billionaire masters to own him.

[Winehole23]

the ACA is more popular than Trump:

according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal" poll, 45% of Americans now believe the Affordable Care Act was a "good idea" compared to 41% who think it was a bad idea -- the first time, we should note, since the law's passage in 2010 that more people approve than disapprove.

[Winehole23]

if the US Congress doesn't deliver the better, cheaper system Trump promised, both will suffer for it.

[boutons_deux]

if the US Congress doesn't deliver the better, cheaper system Trump promised, both will suffer for it.

Ryan's dogs lunch will be more expensive for citizens with less coverage.

Rural America, already hurting, could be most harmed by Trump’s promise to repeal Obamacare

The health of rural America is failing, and a repeal of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) without adequate replacement could prove disastrous. A December, 2016 report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention showed that for the first time in 20 years, life expectancy in the United States has declined, particularly in small cities and rural areas, where people are dying at much higher rates. This shocking trend is driven in part by increasing mortality rates for white, working-class Americans, many of whom live in rural America.

There is no better indicator of well-being than life expectancy, and reversals like this are unusual for wealthy nations where successive generations increase in longevity. This has remained true for vulnerable, minority populations in America, as blacks and Hispanics continue to make gains in life expectancy even while experiencing significant health disparities.

This drop in life expectancy in rural areas is linked to higher rates of chronic illness, obesity, drug overdose, alcoholism, mental illness and suicide. Death rates are most notable for rural white women, who are now much more likely than their grandmothers to suffer from obesity, smoking and alcoholism.

Rising rates of opioid addiction have resulted in an increase in drug dependency in newborns born to rural mothers. Further, dwindling industry in these communities limits access to both employment and to health care.

Taken as a whole, Medicaid expansion through the ACA has resulted in critical gains toward improving rural population health by expanding insurance coverage and stabilizing rural hospitals.

The repeal of Medicaid expansion and collapse of the individual insurance market, which could occur as part of repeal of the ACA, could threaten strides the country has made in advancing the health of rural America.

As emergency medicine physicians, we treat patients across the spectrum of race, class, geography and socioeconomic status – and we know firsthand how devastating the loss of access to health care can be to vulnerable populations. We explain why repeal of the fundamental components of the ACA, commonly called Obamacare, will be uniquely disastrous for the health of rural populations.

Rural health gains

It is no surprise that rural Americans experienced the highest rates of coverage gains through the ACA. They have been more likely to have had inadequate access to affordable health care for years. This dramatic increase in insurance is translating into improved health for these communities.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/rura...e+Raw+Story%29

[rmt]

Republicans Are Trapped In An Obamacare Nightmare As Only 22% Of US Wants Law Repealed

Repealing Obamacare has turned into a total political nightmare for Republicans.

According to a new CBS News poll, only 22% of Americans want the law repealed.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/18/republicans-trapped-obamacare-nightmare-22-law-repealed.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=fee d&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Poli ticus+USA+%29

Ryan and the billionaire masters to own him.

The new CNN poll that claims that more people now favor (49%) ACA than oppose (47%) with MOE +/-3 is 32% Democrat and 24% Republican (page 14 of http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/im...gress,.aca.pdf). These articles and what's being put out there on my local radio station also fail to mention that only 22% want to abandon plans to repeal the law & leave it as is, 2% have no opinion, 21% want repeal parts of law as opportunities arise, regardless of whether a replacement is ready and 55% want repeal parts of law only if replacements can be enacted at same time. Misleading articles/claims by media.

bout, would you please post the link to the original CBS poll (not some article that mentions it) so I can check?

WH, where's the link to your NBC/WSJ poll so I can check that one too?