***** The Official 2015 Avante Football Thread *****

[Avante]

Get what? The fact that he had one good season? RGIII had a better rookie season than all those guys too.

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RGIII didn't keep Tony Romo on the bench. And his stats weren't as awe insporing as Prescotts.

Bottom line...

Prescott played as well as a ..rookie QB...can play. Nobody had ever done it better.

[Avante]

USC Adoree Jackson will be in the NFL in 2017. You will hear this...."he has world class speed". Trust me, he doesn't. He is a good long jumper at close to 26 feet, the world class cats can jump over 28. He has good speed, Reggie Bush type speed or 10.4ish. World class speed is sub 10.10.

[benefactor]

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[Avante]

chirp chirp

I pity your family, do they know you actually chirp at grown men?

You have any idea how damn stupid that makes you look?

GROW UP~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[benefactor]

Not near as stupid as your lies and takes make you look old got.

[Avante]

Not near as stupid as your lies and takes make you look old got.

I don't lie and all my takes are right on the money. Look at yourself ya little , who chirps at grown men, are you really that ed up?

My only problem is I can talk about things dumb s like you can't.

[Darth_Pelican]

chirp chirp

[benefactor]

I don't lie

Of course you do. You said you were going to do something and then didn't do it. That's a lie.

[SpursforSix]

I don't lie and all my takes are right on the money. Look at yourself ya little , who chirps at grown men, are you really that ed up?

My only problem is I can talk about things dumb s like you can't.

Your Osweiller take is awful.

[Clipper Nation]

I don't lie and all my takes are right on the money.

You literally followed up the phrase "I don't lie" with another lie.

You're a pathological liar.

[Avante]

Of course you do. You said you were going to do something and then didn't do it. That's a lie.

Then you are also a liar. I have never seen any video from you. I did show some videos of my world right here.

Cool this silly..."well so n' so saw it"....yeah right. Let's see it over at the Club, ok?

[benefactor]

Then you are also a liar. I have never seen any video from you. I did show some videos of my world right here.

Cool this silly..."well so n' so saw it"....yeah right. Let's see it over at the Club, ok?

She's verified she saw it multiple times in multiple threads you were a part of. I'm not ing asking her to come to this thread and AGAIN verify she has it. , it's sitting in my PM's right now. I can send it to anyone.

As I told you, I was going to make the video anyway to do ent my progress...so I figured why not ask Mr. I'm Old But In Better Shape Than You to give us some proof...proof you agreed to give then backed out on. I don't have any reason to lie like you do. I don't walk around this forum bragging about all my accomplishments or how I look or all the I know That's you, old man. If there's a thread about lifting weights I'll contribute.

Here's what I think. I think you probably won all those trophies and own all those books. You seem to know a lot about a lot of stuff. I think you were probably in good shape at one time and now you've let yourself go and you are simply here trying to resurrect someone from the past because internet anonymity will allow it. You got caught up in the moment and thought I was the same as you and went ahead and agreed to the challenge thinking I was some kid on the other end that was fabricating part of my story too. Well turns out I'm not and I called your bluff.

So what are you going to do now? Are you going man up and admit you really aren't in that good of shape anymore? I will give you my word that if you do I won't give you anymore and I'll consider our agreement fulfilled. Swallow you pride and tell the ing truth old man...or make the video and honor our agreement and validate your claims.

[SpursforSix]

Then you are also a liar. I have never seen any video from you. I did show some videos of my world right here.

Cool this silly..."well so n' so saw it"....yeah right. Let's see it over at the Club, ok?

Hey...Crickets McFarty...what happened to your golden boys? Wilson and Osweiler?

[Avante]

Your Osweiller take is awful.

I'm not even talking about Osweiler. I'm talking common sense and football.

O.J.Simpson is entering his 4th season as a Bill, he has never rushed for over 800 yards in a season and there is..."BUST?"...talk. What hapened in year 4?

In Jerry Rice's rookie season he had a ton of drops, was bringing him in a mistake?

Peyton Manning threw how many INTs as a rookie?

Remember the season Nick Foles had? What happened?

I give things some time, I know better than to freak out too early in a game, season, a career. Too many posters here simply don't know any better.

[Avante]

Hey...Crickets McFarty...what happened to your golden boys? Wilson and Osweiler?

Cool the silly name calling and we'll talk.

[Avante]

benefactor

My wife has seen me workout for 30 years.

So I guess that takes care of that, right?

[Avante]

You literally followed up the phrase "I don't lie" with another lie.

You're a pathological liar.

Who needs to lie on the internet? How silly is that? What do you gain by doing that?

[SpursforSix]

I'm not even talking about Osweiler. I'm talking common sense and football.

O.J.Simpson is entering his 4th season as a Bill, he has never rushed for over 800 yards in a season and there is..."BUST?"...talk. What hapened in year 4?

In Jerry Rice's rookie season he had a ton of drops, was bringing him in a mistake?

Peyton Manning threw how many INTs as a rookie?

Remember the season Nick Foles had? What happened?

I give things some time, I know better than to freak out too early in a game, season, a career. Too many posters here simply don't know any better.

Simpson, Manning, and Rice??? You've got two number one picks and a sixteen there. And regardless of their initial problems, they all showed signs of greatness and potential early on. You like to talk about watching the games and players. Well Osweiller has had enough gametime to see that he SUCKS. He's awful. Can he ever become a starting caliber QB? Maybe. A low end starting QB. But there's nothing that suggests he should have been gotten a $72,000,000 contract. It will probably go down as one of the most detrimental moves in NFL history. And it's not like they put him on a team that was building from scratch. He had good weapons. I'm assuming you watched the games? Then you surely saw all of the bubble screen passes where he put the ball a couple of yards short into the ground. With no pressure. Trust me guy...he's ing terrible for what he's getting paid.

[Avante]

Simpson, Manning, and Rice??? You've got two number one picks and a sixteen there. And regardless of their initial problems, they all showed signs of greatness and potential early on. You like to talk about watching the games and players. Well Osweiller has had enough gametime to see that he SUCKS. He's awful. Can he ever become a starting caliber QB? Maybe. A low end starting QB. But there's nothing that suggests he should have been gotten a $72,000,000 contract. It will probably go down as one of the most detrimental moves in NFL history. And it's not like they put him on a team that was building from scratch. He had good weapons. I'm assuming you watched the games? Then you surely saw all of the bubble screen passes where he put the ball a couple of yards short into the ground. With no pressure. Trust me guy...he's ing terrible for what he's getting paid.

I get all that. I just have no reason to proclaim the guy anything at this stage of things. I have the time to take a wait and see approach, which experience has proven that is the best way to go with all athletes. Things do/can/have changed dramatically from one season to the next many times. I can give the guy a little more time. What's the rush?

Mike Marsh wasn't even the best sprinter at his HS, that was Henry Thomas.

1988	20.35	21	Eagle Rock CA	May 14
1989	20.42	24	Gainesville FL	Apr 08
1990	20.47	21	Eagle Rock CA	May 12
1991	20.44	23	Rome	Jul 17
1992	19.73	1	Barcelona	**********
1993	20.04	4	Eugene	Jun 18
1995	20.14	5	Brussels	Aug 26
1996	19.88	5	Atlanta	May 18
1997	20.30	16	Ingolstadt	Jul 20
2000	20.26	25	Sacramento	Jul 22

Hr won the Olympic gold medal in 1992. Look at the HUGE difference in his times.

Xavier Carter the LSU flash had never broke 20.00, when,....19.63~~~~~~~~~

I simply know how things work in sports.

Xavier Carter

Year	Result	Place	Venue	Date
2005	20.02	5	Bloomington, IN	May 28
2006	19.63	1	Lausanne	Jul 11
2007	19.92	6	Zürich	Sep 07
2008	20.25	16	Athens, GA	Apr 12
2009	20.27	16	New York City	May 30
2010	20.14	11	Monaco

[SpursforSix]

I get all that. I just have no reason to proclaim the guy anything at this stage of things. I have the time to take a wait and see approach, which experience has proven that is the best way to go with all athletes. Things do/can/have changed dramatically from one season to the next many times. I can give the guy a little more time. What's the rush?

No rush for me. The rush is for the Houston Texans who gave him a ridiculous amount of guaranteed money to be their #1 QB. Great defense, good offensive weapons. They need to make something happen with all of that.

Give me a 2nd round QB that turned out to be a star after being so terrible on the field for 2 years. Maybe you can. I really can't think of any.

[Avante]

No rush for me. The rush is for the Houston Texans who gave him a ridiculous amount of guaranteed money to be their #1 QB. Great defense, good offensive weapons. They need to make something happen with all of that.

Give me a 2nd round QB that turned out to be a star after being so terrible on the field for 2 years. Maybe you can. I really can't think of any.

Just seen way too much football, to...HE SUCKS....without giving an athlete some time. Look at Matt Ryan's 2016, after all those years why is he playing better now? SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many QB's took a few seasons to get it going. I have no reason to..HE SUCKS...in his first season as "Da Man". WHY, would I do that knowing what I do?

[SpursforSix]

Just seen way too much football, to...HE SUCKS....without giving an athlete some time. Look at Matt Ryan's 2016, after all those years why is he playing better now? SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many QB's took a few seasons to get it going. I have no reason to..HE SUCKS...in his first season as "Da Man". WHY, would I do that knowing what I do?

Ryan is playing better now because he's in the 2nd year of an offensive system that plays to his strengths. He looked good for a large portion of last year. But this year, he's got a better line, two healthy pass catching RB's, and several good to great receivers. But even at his worst, he generally passed the eye test about being a good QB. And there wasn't much doubt he was a solid starter. Osweiller doesn't even pass the eye test to be a starter. Surely he'll get better. But he just doesn't have what it takes to be an elite QB.

[Avante]

Ryan is playing better now because he's in the 2nd year of an offensive system that plays to his strengths. He looked good for a large portion of last year. But this year, he's got a better line, two healthy pass catching RB's, and several good to great receivers. But even at his worst, he generally passed the eye test about being a good QB. And there wasn't much doubt he was a solid starter. Osweiller doesn't even pass the eye test to be a starter. Surely he'll get better. But he just doesn't have what it takes to be an elite QB.

Where did I ever even hint he was ever going to be an elite QB? Yes, he will never be worth that kind of $$$$$$. But to play this...HE JUST SUCKS...with his small amount of time as a starter, I know better than to play that.

In his second season Ryan had a 58.3 comp %, This season Osweilier...59.0. In his first season as "Da Man", Peyton had a 56 comp % and 28 INT's.

[SpursforSix]

Where did I ever even hint he was ever going to be an elite QB? Yes, he will never be worth that kind of $$$$$$. But to play this...HE JUST SUCKS...with his small amount of time as a starter, I know better than to play that.

You get rated based on expectations. He's getting paid damn near top tier QB money. He turns in QB2 performances. He sucks.

[Avante]

You get rated based on expectations. He's getting paid damn near top tier QB money. He turns in QB2 performances. He sucks.

LaDainian Tomlinson averaged 3.9 his rookie season.

Believe what ya like, I go with what experience has taught me.