After Pop's Political Rants, I'm Done With Spurs

[Blue-Lightning]

would you feel the same way if he was berating the president of the US 8 years ago? no you wouldn't so shut the up.

I'll give you the answer to your question when you stop presuming and telling others to "shut the up." I find telling others to "shut the up" to be the an hesis of free speech, and thus anti-American. Hopefully you can improve your dialogue and conversational skills.

[Blue-Lightning]

Oh man you're clearly such a huge loss to the Spurs fan base. How on earth can the Spurs continue as a basketball team without you, Blue Lightning?

It is rare that any one person holds a unique viewpoint.

[Blue-Lightning]

Don't ever just accept a president because they are the president. That's dangerous thinking, that would lead to a real life 1984 situation. Always question authority.

We accept the results of a fair election. Trump was elected fairly, Clinton conceded because of this. And while we can disagree with a president (and often should), we should never make an argument for why it's okay to disrespect the office of the president. That's what Pop did, and that's why I'm out until it is reversed.

[Blue-Lightning]

Go away got none of us care.

Says the guy who responds. I also find it chilling that so many of you think it's okay to name-call. I worry that you think name-calling somehow empowers you rather than reduces your dialogue.

[Blue-Lightning]

Now, going forward, I only plan to respond to those who actually post something substantive. If all you want to do is ad hominem, don't expect a response. I.e. if you don't get a response, look up "ad hominem" and see if that's what you did.

[gospursgojas]

Blue Lightning is a black guy

[Leetonidas]

Goodbye. I'm glad to see someone who objectifies women as pieces of meat in his signature does not support Trump.

Lol sissy got

[Trainwreck2100]

We accept the results of a fair election. Trump was elected fairly, Clinton conceded because of this. And while we can disagree with a president (and often should), we should never make an argument for why it's okay to disrespect the office of the president. That's what Pop did, and that's why I'm out until it is reversed.

What did he say that was so offensive

[monkeypunk]

I believe in open, free, and RESPECTFUL dialogue.

You mean the kind of dialogue that bird in office routinely s on?

The cyberbullying he does against anyone and every one that dares to report what he actually says?

Or the tax returns that he swore he would release that Conway now says "No one cares to see them."

Or the swamp of his nominees that refused under oath to answer ethical questions?

Grab them by their pussy is respectful in what country, exactly?

[Blue-Lightning]

What did he say that was so offensive

He said that with Trump as president, he can no longer respect the office of the presidency. He also said you can believe nothing the president says. These are both over the line in that they are dangerous statements from an influential, public figure.

[monkeypunk]

I'll give you the answer to your question when you stop presuming and telling others to "shut the up." I find telling others to "shut the up" to be the an hesis of free speech, and thus anti-American. Hopefully you can improve your dialogue and conversational skills.

Think Trump will improve his dialogue and conversational skills?

Real question...

[rasuo214]

Everyone has their own political opinions, whether it's Pop, the players or the fans and they're en led to them. Personally I'd prefer politics out of sports (unless they're directly related) but I won't stop rooting for a team just because of the coach's political views.

[monkeypunk]

He said that with Trump as president, he can no longer respect the office of the presidency. He also said you can believe nothing the president says. These are both over the line in that they are dangerous statements from an influential, public figure.

Still tame compared to the flood of statements given by DT.

[Blue-Lightning]

You mean the kind of dialogue that bird in office routinely s on?

The cyberbullying he does against anyone and every one that dares to report what he actually says?

Or the tax returns that he swore he would release that Conway now says "No one cares to see them."

Or the swamp of his nominees that refused under oath to answer ethical questions?

Grab them by their pussy is respectful in what country, exactly?

I don't know that I would say Trump "cyberbullies." Also, Trump has said and continues to say that he'll release his tax returns after the audit is over. I'll wait to find out if that's true before I make a judgement. I don't know of any nominees who refused to answer ethical questions under oath, and if you provide videos of them, I'd love to take a look. While "grab them by their pussy" is about as bad as it gets, we had to vote on either Trump or a woman who is married to a known, violent racist who rigged the democrat primaries. That's the cards we were dealt.

[Blue-Lightning]

Think Trump will improve his dialogue and conversational skills?

Real question...

Given his success with the current strategy, I find it doubtful.

[monkeypunk]

Again, if this is the way we feel we should talk to other humans, our culture is in for serious trouble.

Has anything DT has said over the last few months been the way you think we should speak to people?

How about making fun of handicapped people in front of thousands of people and broadcast to millions more?

Pretty uplifting speeches, huh?

[Blue-Lightning]

Has anything DT has said over the last few months been the way you think we should speak to people?

How about making fun of handicapped people in front of thousands of people and broadcast to millions more?

Pretty uplifting speeches, huh?

We covered the handicap lie earlier in this thread. You should go take a look at it since you believe a falsehood. Here's a line from the inaugural speech that I feel many should take to heart:

"When we open our hearts to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice." -- Donald Trump, January 20th

[Trainwreck2100]

He said that with Trump as president, he can no longer respect the office of the presidency. He also said you can believe nothing the president says. These are both over the line in that they are dangerous statements from an influential, public figure.

He said trump was a liar and then backed it up with his lies. He said there's a difference between respecting the office and respecting the man. What website did you use that paraphrased it that way?

[Blue-Lightning]

He said trump was a liar and then backed it up with his lies. He said there's a difference between respecting the office and respecting the man. What website did you use that paraphrased it that way?

I watched the video. Anyone can watch it for themselves and see him make the argument for not respecting the presidency, not just the president himself. He also said you can't believe anything POTUS says, which is a dangerous comment for a public figure.

[8FOR!3]

And it's my right to revoke my support for a team which thinks its okay to rationalize attacking POTUS personally rather than criticizing issues (not sure I care to hear the political punditry of coaches, but whatever). But of course I still respect Pop as a person and as a coach - he's one of the all time greats. But as long as he's going to make these sorts of diatribes, I can't support it.

I mean it's definitely your right to do that.

[boutons_deux]

He also said you can't believe anything POTUS says, which is a dangerous comment for a public figure.

Fox, Repugs, right-wing hate media trashed, slandered, libeled Obama for 8 years.

But anybody say anything TRUE about the corrupt, treasonous, lying, mentally ill orange turd? That's not "fair", "sad, so sad"

You rightwingnut assholes are so ing stupid, ignorant.

[Blue-Lightning]

Fox, Repugs, right-wing hate media trashed, slandered, libeled Obama for 8 years.

But anybody say anything TRUE about the corrupt, treasonous, lying, mentally ill orange turd? That's not "fair", "sad, so sad"

You rightwingnut assholes are so ing stupid, ignorant.

Let's give you a chance...

Name one thing Fox News lied about Obama.

The press lied about Trump within 3 hours, saying he had removed the MLK bust from the Oval Office (turned out to be totally false). But let's see if you can name one thing Fox News lied about Obama.

[AaronY]

Gotdamn if Pop continues to trigger da Trumpbots and Kawhi keeps averaging 30 to keep the team entertaining this could be my favorite Spurs team ever even w/o managing to win a le

[Trainwreck2100]

I watched the video. Anyone can watch it for themselves and see him make the argument for not respecting the presidency, not just the president himself. He also said you can't believe anything POTUS says, which is a dangerous comment for a public figure.

True or false trump lied to the American people?

[Biggems]

I'm a conservative, voted for Trump, hated Obama, hated the Clintons even more......but, I am not going to stop being a lifelong Spurs fan, just cause a coach or player has different political views than I do. I will say this, I do not understand all the Trump bashing and blame. He wasn't even the President yet, and all the country's problems were being thrown at him by his haters.

I understand if you don't like him. He is still the President of the US and should at least be given an opportunity to show what he can do. Give him a year do try and get things done, and if he fails to deliver, then march, protest, call your representative or senator, and definitely go to the ballot box in 2020. Also, if you are going to march or protest, do it peacefully. You have no right to vandalize or destroy personal or public property during your demonstration.

As for all the Congressmen and women who did not go to the inauguration, I feel they should be reprimanded. I don't care who the President is, you have a duty to show respect to the office, as an elected official. I find their actions to be childish, immature, disrespectful, and classless.