76ers Big man log jam

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Would love to do some kind of trade to get Dario! I know he is going to hate to play in Philky I wonder what it would take to get him?

[TheGreatYacht]

Man, I would love Richaun Holmes on this team. He produces when given minutes. Unfortunately he's last on their big depth chart.

18pts, 3reb, and a block in 18 minutes tonight against the Clippers.



Pull the trigger RC

[r0drig0lac]

Noel is ridiculously good (logically some "st experts" think him overrated)
against the center that makes our players afraid

[GSH]

The 76ers have a log jam of big men, anyway we can trade for one?

No team in the league is going to go out of their way to trade with the Spurs anymore, IMO. Especially after the George Hill for Kawhi and Bertans trade has been beaten to death. I think most GM's would rather trade to ANYONE other than the Spurs, just because they don't want to get labeled as the guy who let "XXXX" get away to the Spurs.

As much as I have questioned the Spurs at the 5 from the beginning of this season, any trade for a known-good player would involve giving up something in return. Given how well they have done with 3 of the starting 5 out, it's getting harder to think about giving up one of these players in favor of another.

[TheGreatYacht]

Man, I would love Richaun Holmes on this team. He produces when given minutes. Unfortunately he's last on their big depth chart.

18pts, 3reb, and a block in 18 minutes tonight against the Clippers.



Pull the trigger RC

9pts, 8reb, 1stl for Richaun Holmes in 19 minutes

[palangi]

No team in the league is going to go out of their way to trade with the Spurs anymore, IMO. Especially after the George Hill for Kawhi and Bertans trade has been beaten to death. I think most GM's would rather trade to ANYONE other than the Spurs, just because they don't want to get labeled as the guy who let "XXXX" get away to the Spurs.

As much as I have questioned the Spurs at the 5 from the beginning of this season, any trade for a known-good player would involve giving up something in return. Given how well they have done with 3 of the starting 5 out, it's getting harder to think about giving up one of these players in favor of another.

We'd definitely have to give up something to get something. But I'd be willing to start with Danny green and mills. let Murray be the 2nd PG and Forbes be the 3rd. But obviously Manu gets minutes at the point too.

Green
mills
the rights to Adam Hanga
Kyle Anderson

for

noel
covington

[GSH]

We'd definitely have to give up something to get something. But I'd be willing to start with Danny green and mills. let Murray be the 2nd PG and Forbes be the 3rd. But obviously Manu gets minutes at the point too.

Green
mills
the rights to Adam Hanga
Kyle Anderson

for

noel
covington

I'm not even going to talk about the merits of that. Do you ever check the salaries on trades you propose? There's only about a $10M gap to cover. The Spurs would be sending out about $15M, give or take, and taking back a little over $5M.

[Kawhitstorm]

Man, I would love Richaun Holmes on this team. He produces when given minutes. Unfortunately he's last on their big depth chart. Pull the trigger RC

They are trying to move Okafor/Noel thus it wouldn't make sense to trade Holmes when Embiid is on a minute restriction. He doesn't play much b/c they are trying to showcase Okafor.

[palangi]

I'm not even going to talk about the merits of that. Do you ever check the salaries on trades you propose? There's only about a $10M gap to cover. The Spurs would be sending out about $15M, give or take, and taking back a little over $5M.

Listen I'm just throwing ideas out there. Don't be an uppity . ing relax a little.

[Phenomanul]

Listen I'm just throwing ideas out there. Don't be an uppity . ing relax a little.

It's cause normally people here toss up ideas on the other end of the spectrum... "handing out our scrubs, in return for stars" (i.e. less salary for more)...

What you proposed was quite the opposite...

It's a little funny...

[DPG21920]

I'm not even going to talk about the merits of that. Do you ever check the salaries on trades you propose? There's only about a $10M gap to cover. The Spurs would be sending out about $15M, give or take, and taking back a little over $5M.

*cough*

Ironically enough, merits of said trade not withstanding, PHI is so far under the cap that they could take on the extra 10M no problem and the trade legally works financially.

[palangi]

*cough*

Ironically enough, merits of said trade not withstanding, PHI is so far under the cap that they could take on the extra 10M no problem and the trade legally works financially.

That's what I thought but didn't really want to argue it.

[DPG21920]

However, discussing merits, no one should be proposing any trade with Danny involved that does not include getting an upgrade at guard (at least in terms of offensive skill set). Spurs are solid up front even if they could use another wing. It's the guard position that is a "concern" and losing Danny/Mills would be crippling.

[palangi]

However, discussing merits, no one should be proposing any trade with Danny involved that does not include getting an upgrade at guard (at least in terms of offensive skill set). Spurs are solid up front even if they could use another wing. It's the guard position that is a "concern" and losing Danny/Mills would be crippling.

I see covington as a guy that can play and start at the 2 guard spot.

Losing mills is tough. We don't really fill his spot as Murray is a different type of player. But I think Forbes is very similar with Better size and length. Just not the same confidence or experience. But as the 3rd guy who probably plays behind Manu still, I think it is manageable.

PG- parker, Murray, Forbes
SG- covington, Manu, Simmons
SF- Leonard, Bertans
PF- LMA, Lee
C - Noel, Gasol, Dedmon

[Chinook]

That's a lineup right there.

[DPG21920]

I like RoCo but he's not as good as Danny at shooting or defense. Adding RoCo to the existing squad would be great. Then Forbes for Mills is a massive downgrade at this point.

In a bubble Danny for Noel is fine value but it hurts the overall team now.

[Chinook]

As soon as Dedmon and Lee showed that they were quality rotation players, the Spurs' need for a big disappeared. They have the best front court in the NBA. Why are people trying to rob a poor backcourt to make the rich richer?

[palangi]

That's a lineup right there.

You're a evaluator. LJC? Danny green all universe defense that can't EVER be replaced. GTFOH!

[tav1]

We'd definitely have to give up something to get something. But I'd be willing to start with Danny green and mills. let Murray be the 2nd PG and Forbes be the 3rd. But obviously Manu gets minutes at the point too.

Green
mills
the rights to Adam Hanga
Kyle Anderson

for

noel
covington

You're way overpaying for RoCo--a plus defender with limited offense--and Noel, who Philly will not resign this offseason and might not be worth his RFA asking price.

Covington might have more value than Noel because of his contract situation.

Dedmon + Anderson + Hanga is a fair offer for Convington and Noel. Maybe put a second in the deal. Philly probably says no and looks for something better, but San Antonio doesn't need to do anything and Philly doesn't have any leverage. It's not like there is great demand for Noel. No need to overpay. The Spurs roster is fine. Besides, why would 76ers want to move Covington? And if they move Noel, rather than a big in return, wouldn't they just develop Holmes?

[BillMc]

"Big Man Log Jam" sounds like one of those water rides at an amusement park....Or the party theme for a gay cruise.

[GSH]

*cough*

Ironically enough, merits of said trade not withstanding, PHI is so far under the cap that they could take on the extra 10M no problem and the trade legally works financially.

Holy , you're right. I don't look in on Philly that often, but I thought there was supposed to be a salary floor this season. How the are they over $7M below the announced floor? Are they going to be forced to take on some more ballast before the end of the season, or did they just decide not to bring the floor into play this season?


Well, Palangi, I guess I have egg on my face - your trade would work after all. Just out of curiosity... your plan is to move Covington to the starting SG position? Because, what, other than the fact that we'd need one?

[GSH]

Nobody? Chinook, you know tons about the cap. Aren't the Sixers like way below the announced salary floor? What am I missing?

[TheGreatYacht]

I see covington as a guy that can play and start at the 2 guard spot.

Losing mills is tough. We don't really fill his spot as Murray is a different type of player. But I think Forbes is very similar with Better size and length. Just not the same confidence or experience. But as the 3rd guy who probably plays behind Manu still, I think it is manageable.

PG- parker, Murray, Forbes
SG- covington, Manu, Simmons
SF- Leonard, Bertans
PF- LMA, Lee
C - Noel, Gasol, Dedmon

That's honestly a great rotation, bro....

That starting lineup is universes ahead defensively than our current one. Only thing I would change is putting Kawhi at SG over Covington. Plus, Murray and Bertans are out of the doghouse and getting actual minutes? Perfect.

We can even pick up a Hollis Thompson, tbh.. a consistent 3pt shooter

[DPG21920]

Nobody? Chinook, you know tons about the cap. Aren't the Sixers like way below the announced salary floor? What am I missing?

The floor doesn't matter. Worst case, if the team doesn't meet the floor then they just distribute the gap to the other players on the roster.

Most teams like the flexibility though vs just signing someone because of the ability to absorb salaries in trades. Makes them a nice team to deal with and usually you get compensated draft picks for helping another team shed money.

[GSH]

The floor doesn't matter. Worst case, if the team doesn't meet the floor then they just distribute the gap to the other players on the roster.

Most teams like the flexibility though vs just signing someone because of the ability to absorb salaries in trades. Makes them a nice team to deal with and usually you get compensated draft picks for helping another team shed money.

I wish I had a gif of Dennis Hopper... yer freakin' me out man. I thought the purpose in the floor was to keep teams from doing exactly this? It's not much of a floor, if you don't have to meet it. And you're saying they can just distribute more money to the players who are already under contract for a lesser amount? I've already written too much for one day, but you see all the games that could allow them to play? And I thought the Players' Union wanted a floor to try and get more money out to more players? That all just seems totally contrary to what I thought they wanted to accomplish.

I understand wanting to leave room to absorb contracts. , they Sixers have been doing that for years and stockpiling picks. I believe you - I just don't see the point in having a floor if they can work this way.