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    But the draft of a Trump administration executive order that spilled into public view early Wednesday — a do ent that raised the prospect of reviving C.I.A. “black site” prisons like those where terrorism suspects were once detained and tortured — has the potential to further fracture a national security team already divided over one of the most controversial policies of the post-9/11 era.

    The White House disclaimed the do ent, which was leaked to The New York Times and other news organizations, but three administration officials said the White House had circulated it among National Security Council staff members for review on Tuesday morning. And many of its proposals — which also include halting transfers out of the Guantánamo Bay prison and sending new detainees there, which President Barack Obama refused to do — echo years of Republican national security policy and President Trump’s own speeches.

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    Funny how these things come out.

    How many do ents now has Sean er told the press were not Whitehouse do ents?

    I wonder who is generating all this fake news?

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    NYT is part of the AP and they fact check and vett sources. It isn't an official do ent from the POTUS as it was a draft but it was a draft of a policy proposal from the WH. Nuance is difficult for stupid people so it is little surprise that WC is struggling to grasp it.

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    NYT is part of the AP and they fact check and vett sources. It isn't an official do ent from the POTUS as it was a draft but it was a draft of a policy proposal from the WH. Nuance is difficult for stupid people so it is little surprise that WC is struggling to grasp it.
    No struggle involved.

    Just because such a paper was released, doesn't mean it originated from the inner circle. In fact, it's hard to believe it did. Maybe someone had ideas they wanted to present to the president. Maybe it's as fake as the Bush do ent.

    You and others are grasping at straws.

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    No struggle involved.

    Just because such a paper was released, doesn't mean it originated from the inner circle. In fact, it's hard to believe it did. Maybe someone had ideas they wanted to present to the president. Maybe it's as fake as the Bush do ent.

    You and others are grasping at straws.
    No one here claimed it came from any "inner circle," dimwit. Struggling with nuance again, I see.

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    You and others are grasping at straws.
    Really? How is this hard to believe given that Trump was an advocate for bringing this form of torture back? He's in favor of it.

    Funny how the right's favorite word now is fake news.

    I wonder what you'll be saying when this, in fact becomes official.

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    Really? How is this hard to believe given that Trump was an advocate for bringing this form of torture back? He's in favor of it.

    Funny how the right's favorite word now is fake news.

    I wonder what you'll be saying when this, in fact becomes official.
    Yes, he said he believes waterboarding is effective.

    That doesn't mean the do ent is real.

    Fake news is what is is being called, and has existed for far too long.

    What ever happened to the integrity of journalism?

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    No one here claimed it came from any "inner circle," dimwit. Struggling with nuance again, I see.
    Where would it have come from if real?

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    Where would it have come from if real?
    Their staff. This should not be hard.

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    No one said that they were infallible, it's most of the point in cross checking, and I am not sure what point you think you are making when they are just reporting what US intelligence officials told them in those reports.

    I just want to be clear here: you do not believe that Russia sent troops into Ukraine or that Assad used chemical weapons?

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    Their staff. This should not be hard.
    Their staff is the inner circle.

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    they reported on what the us administration said, they reported on the contents of a UN report... those are accurate reports. now, if they said "the new york times can confirm that saddam actually possesses nuclear weapons" then you'd be onto something

    by this standard you're setting, if a news organization airs an interview where a politician tells a lie, then the media source is lying because they're showing a lie

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    What ever happened to the integrity of journalism?
    They're just like any other business---trying to make a dollar and a cent at it by any means necessary. They are not benevolent.

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    Their staff is the inner circle.
    More nonsense. The inner circle are the people who actually participate in oval office and national security meetings. Ie the actual decision makers. Protip: it's not their staff. Lead assistants may be allowed to sit in but not all of them. It's logistically impossible if nothing else.

    Once more you are clueless as .

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    All these leaked classified do ents and no one can find Trump's tax returns?

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    All these leaked classified do ents and no one can find Trump's tax returns?
    Typical pseudologic from the resident pseudo-intellectual. Keep begging the question, dim.

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    Yes, he said he believes waterboarding is effective.

    That doesn't mean the do ent is real.

    Fake news is what is is being called, and has existed for far too long.

    What ever happened to the integrity of journalism?
    It never really existed except as a cliche. Even the NE JoM has a slant.

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    Typical pseudologic from the resident pseudo-intellectual. Keep begging the question, dim.
    What would Kant say about it?


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    They're just like any other business---trying to make a dollar and a cent at it by any means necessary. They are not benevolent.
    I know that, but for some reason, so many people think the media doesn't lie.

    These same people only think Fox news lies, when they all do.

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    More nonsense. The inner circle are the people who actually participate in oval office and national security meetings. Ie the actual decision makers. Protip: it's not their staff. Lead assistants may be allowed to sit in but not all of them. It's logistically impossible if nothing else.

    Once more you are clueless as .
    It's all relative. How about the second layer of the inner circle?

    I have a hard time believing that there would be so many leaks so soon. I am far more inclined to believe it's more fake news.

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    It never really existed except as a cliche. Even the NE JoM has a slant.
    A slant is one thing, but reporting bull ...

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    It's all relative. How about the second layer of the inner circle?

    I have a hard time believing that there would be so many leaks so soon. I am far more inclined to believe it's more fake news.
    exactly. ANYTHING negative about Trash or the Repugs must be fake news, because Trash and Repugs are too wonderful to do anything wrong, destructive, inhumane.

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    exactly. ANYTHING negative about Trash or the Repugs must be fake news, because Trash and Repugs are too wonderful to do anything wrong, destructive, inhumane.
    There you go, making bull up again with your confirmation bias.

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    There you go, making bull up again with your confirmation bias.
    There I go again, slapping one of ST's most ideologically blinded dumb s.

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