Alternative facts: Did 3-5 million "illegals" vote in the 2016 election?

[Winehole23]

priming the pump for more voter suppression. the electoral wedge is gravy.

[Spurminator]

It's the only way they can keep winning.

[Winehole23]

I disagree. HRC lost not because of vote suppression, but because traditional Democratic Party cons uencies were too discouraged to vote, or voted for the other guy.

[Winehole23]

there might be more than one way to keep turnout low. continual umbrage taking and unceasingly shrill denunciation of both sides by both sides is one of them.

[Spurminator]

I disagree. HRC lost not because of vote suppression, but because traditional Democratic Party cons uencies were too discouraged to vote, or voted for the other guy.

My point is those cons uencies won't make that mistake again.

[Winehole23]

I wouldn't be too sure of that. The Democrats have to at least pretend to be for something, without unduly frightening their corporate overlords.

[Spurminator]

I wouldn't be too sure of that. The Democrats have to at least pretend to be for something, without unduly frightening their corporate overlords.

I would normally agree that it's bad political strategy for your entire message to be "we're not [opponent]" but this is an unprecedented [opponent].

[boutons_deux]

I wouldn't be too sure of that. The Democrats have to at least pretend to be for something, without unduly frightening their corporate overlords.

Will Dems take over from BigFinance's tools of the New Democrats and Third Way people? eg, Brazile and similar ilk must be sidelined, which includes the entire Bill/Hillary machine.

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You understand that is not an academic study right? The author won't share his data.

Oh, I get it, when science favors you it's etched in the scrolls. When science doesn't favor you, it's total .

[boutons_deux]

It's the only way they can keep winning.

Repugs control governor and both chambers in 25 or more states.

And no doubt, like Jimmy Ricky did in TX, firing, sidelining career professionals, replaced with Repug apparatchiks.

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I specifically said Trump knows that 3-5 million illegals didn't vote in the election. This reminds me of the time you didn't know the difference between "on Clinton" and "from Clinton", you dumb mother er.

Nice spin attempt, dude. Own it.

You clearly said Trump doesn't think 3 or whatever million illegals didn't vote. That is not what he believes.

Are you his secretary? I mean, you're speaking for him and he is still going against what you're saying so..

[Reck]

My point is those cons uencies won't make that mistake again.

They took a big risk though. Punishing a ty human being by putting an even tier human being that doesn't hide the fact he's a ty human being is pretty extreme.

Let's hope this choice is not a costly one.

[Winehole23]

I would normally agree that it's bad political strategy for your entire message to be "we're not [opponent]" but this is an unprecedented [opponent].

If Trump lasts that long. GOP Congress-critters have nothing to fear but being primaried in the midterm elections. They'll likely refrain from pissing off Trumpistas beforehand.

After 2018, anybody's guess. Trump isn't particularly well-liked/respected by his nominal party. More importantly, he doesn't particularly like or respect the GOP.

[spurraider21]

How many people have seen this:



At 2:58 in the video:

OBAMA: If you want to vote, and you show up at your poling place, they can't stop you from voting.

At 3:22 in the video:

RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undo ented citizens -- and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country -- are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera. The sanc y of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undo ented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

LOL... "when you vote, you are a citizen yourself"

So illegal immigrants are citizens if they vote?

This entire exchange does nothing but tell the illegals they can vote.

you dimwit. he's operating under the assumption that only a citizen can vote. this is why he clarifies at the 4 minute mark "if you have a family member who is undo ented..."

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I'm all for people being required to have ID to vote but @ thinking 3-5 mil illegals step foot near a voters booth with the risk of being deported. We can't even get natural born citizens to vote but 3-5 million illegals were out there?

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If Trump lasts that long. GOP Congress-critters have nothing to fear but being primaried in the midterm elections. They'll likely refrain from pissing off Trumpistas beforehand.

After 2018, anybody's guess. Trump isn't particularly well-liked/respected by his nominal party. More importantly, he doesn't particularly like or respect the GOP.

Precisely. They'd no sooner let him in the front door as a Dem would. & they're waiting for an opportunity where they can cut his throat. That up the street McCain especially wants a piece of that Trump ass. Why would this be? Because there was a proper line formed and conformed. Clinton-Obama-Clinton-Bush. What'd Trump do? Cut in line. The aforementioned Clinton/Bush formation are nothing more than bag men for the boy's downtown. They don't give one good about Americans.

All the truths are being loosed to American air: $60 billion trade deficit to Mexico. Sure, it was whispered softly, albeit to the fake news bent, but, not like Trump said it aloud yesterday.

This Mexico City Law about abortions performed for foreigners and American paying for it. Can you imagine it? CNN/MSNBC, even Fox won't say it out loud. It took Trump to put it in a gd Executive Order.

Now this Executive Action to ban Iraq. Well, for heavens sakes Obama had the same ban for six months and it was met with nary a peep. Today? Wild in the streets over it.

What a crock of a .

[Winehole23]

The immigration freeze is a crock of and it has already made Americans less safe -- from each other.

[boutons_deux]

The immigration freeze is a crock of and it has already made Americans less safe -- from each other.

mosque was burned down Fri night in TX, as usual Trash supporters will say the Muslims did it

[baseline bum]

I'm all for people being required to have ID to vote but @ thinking 3-5 mil illegals step foot near a voters booth with the risk of being deported. We can't even get natural born citizens to vote but 3-5 million illegals were out there?

Why do we need ID then if illegals are scared to vote?

[boutons_deux]

PVL Trash this weekend claimed AGAIN that therr were Ms of illegal voters (against him, not for him)

His supporters believe him, of course.

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PVL Trash this weekend claimed AGAIN thatther were Ms of illegal voters (against him, not for him)

His supporters believe him, of course.

& why not, BEFORE Trump whooped the dog out of Hillary you'd play cat & mouse with the claim, intimating that illegals had the right to vote, Hussein Obama stated exactly that. Only after Trump called ass did the other side straighten up and fly straight.

[Winehole23]

Same old bull , Texas doesn't know who got naturalized and who actually voted. The 95,000 names cover a period of 22 years.

[Winehole23]

More tendentious garbage to provide a pretext for voter auppression.