Immigration freeze omits countries linked to attacks in the US

[boutons_deux]

I don't understand what good it does to impose this on legal residents.

Bannon specifically blocked DHS request to exclude green carders, which does NO good. A huge up by Bannon on behalf of Trash.

[baseline bum]

It's an act of charity BB.

As long as you dont let refugees in like in Germany we should be fine. Plenty of room for people that are in dire need of a place. It's life and death for the vast majority of those refugees.

I would focus on the kids and mothers.

If those mothers come here and can only find work at Hardees their kids will see how much America sucks for people making $7.25 an hour. I only want to admit people who can give their families a middle class life so their kids have a real shot and don't cling to their religion. These acts of charity have been disasters in Europe and we're going to see a hard right fascist movement there just like we're under now because of them. It's not our duty to make life fair for Syrians.

[Reck]

Bannon specifically blocked DHS request to exclude green carders, which does NO good. A huge up by Bannon on behalf of Trash.

They're also not doing jack squat about it. They're just letting this happen.

[Will Hunting]

It's simple economics tbh. America already has a surplus of unskilled labor that can't provide for itself which has led to stagnant wages and a diminished middle class. Letting even more unskilled labor in the country will do nothing but make the problem worse.

[boutons_deux]

Who the Is Running Things at the White House?

This is nuts:

• On Friday, the Department of Homeland Security determined that President Trump's immigration order didn't apply to green card holders.
• Later on Friday, Steve Bannon overruled them and said it did.
• Saturday night, DHS confirmed that the order applied to green card holders.
• Today,chief of staff Reince Priebus apparently overruled Bannon and said it didn't apply to green card holders after all.

Who are Bannon and Priebus speaking for?

Neither one of them has the authority on their own to issue these directives.

DHS Secretary John Kelly has the authority.

Whoever's running the Department of Justice has the authority.

Donald Trump has the authority.

When are we going to hear from one of them?

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...gs-white-house


We know from Trash's business career he's ing sucky manager.

[ElNono]

Senate Foreign Relation Chairman Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), whom Trump considered picking to be his running mate and, later, secretary of state, called on the president to immediately retool the order.

“We all share a desire to protect the American people, but this executive order has been poorly implemented, especially with respect to green card holders,” Corker said in a statement. “The administration should immediately make appropriate revisions, and it is my hope that following a thorough review and implementation of security enhancements that many of these programs will be improved and reinstated.”

...

Even GOP supporters of the travel ban want it revised to make it less onerous. House Homeland Security Chairman Mike McCaul (R-Texas), after supporting the executive order earlier this weekend, chastised Trump on Sunday for not coordinating better with Congress.

“In light of the confusion and uncertainty created in the wake of the President’s Executive Order, it is clear adjustments are needed," McCaul wrote in a statement.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) called Trump's action "a common-sense security measure to prevent terrorist attacks." But he wants it altered to address "green card holders and those who've assisted the U.S. armed forces."

And Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), who runs the Senate GOP's political arm, called Trump's moves "overly broad" and said the administration must "fix" it.

"A blanket travel ban goes too far. I also believe that lawful residents of the United States should be permitted to enter the country," Gardner said. Rep. Will Hurd (R-Texas) said Trump is giving terrorists "another tool to gain sympathy and recruit new fighters."

"We need to work with all allies around the world. This visa ban is the ultimate display of mistrust and will erode our allies' willingness to fight with us," Hurd said.

Seeking to quell the growing chorus of opposition from Republicans, Department of Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly said in implementing Trump's order, he will "deem the entry of lawful permanent residents to be in the national interest."

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But new statements in full support of Trump were in short supply on Sunday. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said in a joint statement that they oppose interpretations of the order that barred green-card holders, interpreters and vetted refugees from entering the United States. They also said that Trump's "executive order may do more to help terrorist recruitment than improve our security." Still, they did not outline concrete steps to overturn Trump's actions via legislation, investigations or congressional hearings.

“We fear this executive order will become a self-inflicted wound in the fight against terrorism," they said. "This executive order sends a signal, intended or not, that America does not want Muslims coming into our country."

Trump responded that they are "weak on immigration" and "always looking to start World War III."

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That left Republicans walking a fine line between criticizing Trump and avoiding rocking the boat in a presidency that is still less than 10 days old.

“It was not a ban; however, I think it was not properly vetted,” said Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) on CNN's "State of the Union." “So you have an extreme vetting proposal that did not get the vetting it should have had. And as a result in the implementation, we’ve seen some problems.”

Among the problems Portman listed was the case of a Cleveland Clinic doctor who was forced to leave despite having a visa to be in the United States. Asked whether sending her out of the country made the U.S. safer, Portman said: “No, because she’s been properly vetted.”

More: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...blicans-234326

[lefty]

This is a Quinnippiac Poll, so it goes without saying that they undersampled Republicans and independents while oversampling Democrats. The fact that they still couldn't make the refugee ban look unpopular says it all.

Faux News polls
polls
asians
today's NBA

[boutons_deux]

‘Astonishing incompetence’: Legal experts utterly shred Trump’s Muslim ban

Officials within the federal government are flocking to media sources to reveal the absolute chaos and confusion besetting many departments as they attempt to enforce President Trump’s vaguely worded Muslim Immigration Ban.

One of the biggest problems is that many departments don’t even know how to enforce it, with one federal government immigration lawyer describing the do ent as “look[ing] like what an intern came up with over a lunch hour. . . . My take is that it is so poorly written that it’s hard to tell the impact.”

The root cause of this sloppy work is clear: none of the relevant branches of federal government had any input on its creation.

Officials within the federal government are flocking to media sources to reveal the absolute chaos and confusion besetting many departments as they attempt to enforce President Trump’s vaguely worded Muslim Immigration Ban.

The plan itself, which has spawned protests attended by thousands in airports all across the country, bans people with citizenship in 7 Muslim-majority countries for the next 90 days from entering America and permanently ends the U.S. Syrian refugee program.

One of the biggest problems is that many departments don’t even know how to enforce it, with one federal government immigration lawyer describing the do ent as “look[ing] like what an intern came up with over a lunch hour. . . . My take is that it is so poorly written that it’s hard to tell the impact.”

The root cause of this sloppy work is clear: none of the relevant branches of federal government had any input on its creation.

The do ent was not seen by the Justice Department, State Department, Dept. of Defense, or the DHS until after it was finished. The Dept. of Homeland Security didn’t get to make a legal analysis on the order until after it had been implemented.

Even immigration branches such Customs and Border Protection and U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services – all of whom now have the lamentable job of enforcing it – only got briefed as the executive order was being signed.

http://usuncut.com/news/astonishing-...ps-muslim-ban/

[angrydude]

[Adam Lambert]

It's simple economics tbh. America already has a surplus of unskilled labor that can't provide for itself which has led to stagnant wages and a diminished middle class. Letting even more unskilled labor in the country will do nothing but make the problem worse.

what about those unskilled phds?

[djohn2oo8]

[DMC]

what about those unskilled phds?

It's usually the uneducated who think skill = education.

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DHS Secretary Clears Green Card Holders for U.S. Entry Under Trump’s Executive Order

Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly announced that American green card holders will be allowed to enter the country despite President Trump‘s executive order which restricts immigration.

On Sunday night, Kelly’s department released a statement saying it was in the national interest to let these individuals in, provided there are no indications of any “serious threat to public safety.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/dhs-s...ecutive-order/

great "strategy", strategist Bannon, just great. You just got kicked in the balls

[Splits]

lol CN

lol CN been busy today spamming polls that agree with his point of view after months of telling us how stupid polls are

[boutons_deux]

gaslighting assholes

Trump aides call travel ban success despite broad criticism

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...litics+News%29

[DMC]

It's an act of charity BB.

As long as you dont let refugees in like in Germany we should be fine. Plenty of room for people that are in dire need of a place. It's life and death for the vast majority of those refugees.

I would focus on the kids and mothers.

So how many Syrians are you going to allow in your home? Don't be shy.

[Thread]

Of course, they want(ed) the status quo the same as the other assholes on the other side of the aisle.

[boutons_deux]

and students abroad with student visas?

[Splits]

[Thread]

If they caught us they were going to cut our heads off either way.

[Splits]

Oh seems like he wont double down but triple down

Apparently he will sign an executive order to get all social media info AND cell phone contacts from all foreigners visiting US

Angela Merkel will have to give up her phone upon entry

Or.... walk it all back

? Donald J. Trump

Statement Regarding Recent Executive Order Concerning Extreme Vetting“America is a proud nation of immigrants and we will continue to show compassion to those fleeing oppression, but we will do so while protecting our own citizens and border. America has always been the land of the free and home of the brave.

We will keep it free and keep it safe, as the media knows, but refuses to say. My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months. The seven countries named in the Executive Order are the same countries previously identified by the Obama administration as sources of terror. To be clear, this is not a Muslim ban, as the media is falsely reporting.

This is not about religion - this is about terror and keeping our country safe. There are over 40 different countries worldwide that are majority Muslim that are not affected by this order. We will again be issuing visas to all countries once we are sure we have reviewed and implemented the most secure policies over the next 90 days.

I have tremendous feeling for the people involved in this horrific humanitarian crisis in Syria. My first priority will always be to protect and serve our country, but as President I will find ways to help all those who are suffering.”

[Splits]

If they caught us they were going to cut our heads off either way.

Where were they going to "catch" us?

[Thread]

Where were they going to "catch" us?

I don't know, but, I don't want to get caught short like that Pearl guy.

[Splits]

I don't know, but, I don't want to get caught short like that Pearl guy.

Then don't travel to Syria.

Are you skeered since your Uncle Joe got booted from office?

lol you are. running as fast as you can

[Thread]

Then don't travel to Syria.

Are you skeered since your Uncle Joe got booted from office?

lol you are. running as fast as you can

He took Hillary down here as he went. They waited all nite for AZ to fall because Soros had come here to get Joe and the Trump in the bargain. "The hispanics will go in there and vote for Penzone Vs. Joe. Whilst they're in there they'll just as soon vote for Hillary than Trump and we'll pick up the 11 Electoral Votes in the bargain."

They waited till dawn on the 9th to call it. They had no other choice.