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"athletes and celebrities would educate themselves before speaking their minds publicly"
Who else does that?
Everyone is en led to their opinions, but I would have thought athletes and celebrities would educate themselves before speaking their minds publicly - especially because it could hurt their "brand". Hearing them spew fear-mongering rhetoric or just parroting what they hear on the news is just sad. I can understand when the regular public does it, they likely don't have anything to lose financially by sharing their misguided and uneducated opinions. But celebrities and athletes? They risk looking stupid and losing sponsorship and endorsements.
Relying solely on the media to educate one's self is a recipe for failure. The media has lost credibility as objective news sources and any reliance on them to foster one's opinions is foolhardy. The lack of objectivity and the inclusion of so much spin from print media and television is sickening.
The latest victim to show their ignorance? Russel Wilson. I'm no Donald Trump fan - as I think he lacks diplomacy and has all the tact of a jackal. But I have no problem with his TEMPORARY order to restrict access of refugees coming from terrorist hotbeds. I also have no trouble believing that the current system of vetting refugees is flawed. The restrictions will last 120 days. It is not indefinite. It is being done to make sure the vetting system on our side, as well as the information we receive from refugee host countries is accurate and complete.
Undoubtedly, the Executive Order could and should have been implemented better. But to call it a "Muslim Ban" or "Racist" is ridiculous. The seven countries first listed by the Obama administration are notorious for Anti-American sentiment and radical extremism. I am flabbergasted that Saudi Arabia wasn't on the list but perhaps they are now sharing information with us regarding threats.
Meh, I had to vent.
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"athletes and celebrities would educate themselves before speaking their minds publicly"
yes, it's all Obama's fault, who forced Trash (Bannon, Miller, really) to implement a MUSLIM ban because Obama's 7 countries have attacked USA so successfully.
All of those countries are occupied and watched by Africom and Black Ops.
So basically, you are immune to media spin and disinformation unlike those you disagree with, celebs should be more PC because money is more important than ideals and principles, and you feel safer because citizens of countries whose governments employ anti American rhetoric shouldn't be allowed in your country despite not having committed any crime or offense towards the US personally.
The US sold something like 200 billion in weapons to Saudi Arabia and Qatar during the Obama years, so I'm not surprised that they aren't on the list.
They also basically sponsored the Clinton Campaign
There's a reason for that.
There were 2 terrorist attacks by somalians in the past year alone
1) complain about celebrities getting involved in politics
2) vote for donald trump and idolize Ronald Reagan
Lol
Celebrities are so diverse in their political opinions, tho
You forgot Al Franken and Jesse Ventura
you have Scott Baio
Didn't Trump call it a muslim ban? If it was me I'd have only applied the ban to Syrians since that's where the refugee problem is coming from. And I do think denying entry is valid there, as it's the only way to keep them from being able to claim asylum, which would push them to the end of a queue of cases that will take 5+ years to get to.
Yeah, he did call it that during the campaign. I guess we can refer to "the wall" as the Catholic blocker.
Did he ever say he was trying to ban catholics?
#stillasshurt
You obviously missed the point of Darren's post.
There is no escaping from it any more…IMO The golden globes was the last show about entertainment & fun…Open bar, a lot of folks under the influence…Hotties showing off their tanned breastices…This year was a disaster with all of the political non sense. The academy awards will be worse. I will watch to root for Mel Gibson & Editing & Sound awards. But I know that it will be painful…
The problem isn't that they speak out publicly but that anyone gives a .
Yes, because I pretty much question everything and don't follow sound bites like a sheep.
No. Celebs & athletes (like all of us) should educate themselves with facts and not someone else's spin or agenda. Being passionate about your beliefs and ideals is great but losing $$ because you've been misinformed is sad. If you want to comment on an Executive Order, read it first and base your opinion on it, not what someone else "thinks". You risk looking stupid if you don't.
Name one crime the 9/11 hijackers personally committed against the United States before killing nearly 3000 people and wounding another 6000? Most of those foreign born terrorists took advantage of a flawed Visa system while two of them actually over-stayed their permitted time. Post 9/11, improvements were made to the vetting and monitoring of Visas - leading analysts to believe foreign born terrorists will next try to exploit the refugee entry system. So....yeah, I feel safer knowing that they are going to address the weaknesses in the vetting of refugees.
As far as anti-American rhetoric from the following governments: Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Libya and Somalia - Only Syria and Iran has raised much noise publicly. The others are considered allies or are in such bad shape, their governments aren't in a position to spout propaganda.
The seven countries named in the Executive Order have voiced their disapproval of being listed as sources of terrorists. Duly noted. I can live with that. Perhaps we should let the Obama administration (who came up with the list) write a letter of apology.
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Deep thoughts from Whoopi
I'm curious as to what exactly has led you to believe that our vetting system was flawed considering that no American has died at the hands of refugees from any of these 7 countries in decades.
If you can link me to something, that would be great.. not saying you're wrong, just would love some evidence
Going back to the Obama administration, there were hearings regarding the refugee crisis - specifically concerning Syria. The main flaws are that querying our databases only works if we have accurate refugee information from their original countries. In Syria, we don't have very good diplomatic relations or intelligence gathering, so how do we get accurate information on the individuals trying to get in? Improvements have been ongoing but they aren't perfect.
What alternatives does our government have to deal with these situations? I don't know. I hope smarter people than me are figuring out ways to accurately check a refugee's story. Perhaps if background checks are not complete, the government is working on ways to make sure we can track individuals who might pose a threat.
Two or three of the 9/11 hijackers actually had red-flags (record of religious fanaticism or extremism) attached to their profiles but they were still allowed
in. Once they were in, they were allowed to roam free without much monitoring. They embedded themselves in our country, came in on Student visas but never attended classes, etc.. I believe the government wants to ensure we have better ways of tracking these folks.
Here's a quick clip of the FBI director addressing the security committee last year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93hu...ature=youtu.be
We should just use Europe's immigration policy. What could go wrong?
It'll create plenty of jobs, like security crews for ing pools
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