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    Spurs value draft picks. I'd be shocked if they traded theirs, even if for a later one. Would have to be a sweet pot.

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    Spurs value draft picks. I'd be shocked if they traded theirs, even if for a later one. Would have to be a sweet pot.
    Lol... hey dabom, who here was smoking lots of pots?
    That was funny as ...

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    Was going to suggest that Philly could toss in another 2nd, but was shocked that they ONLY had one this year!

    I'm in favor of Holmes as bigman insurance in case DD/Lee get offers too rich. Not really a talent drop off btwn Kyle/Holmes, and dropping 5 slots doesn't seem like its that big a lift.

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    Was going to suggest that Philly could toss in another 2nd, but was shocked that they ONLY had one this year!

    I'm in favor of Holmes as bigman insurance in case DD/Lee get offers too rich. Not really a talent drop off btwn Kyle/Holmes, and dropping 5 slots doesn't seem like its that big a lift.
    I firmly believe Lee is going to be here and on the cheap for a hot minute.
    He just loves it here and his role is significant enough for him.

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    I'd say no. The Spurs shouldn't pay to get another big, especially with Manu and Mills leaving.
    Good point. Their current weakness is guard play and that will still be the same next season. Maybe worse... consider what happens if Manu retires and Spury reup Simmons.... nooooooo
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    I firmly believe Lee is going to be here and on the cheap for a hot minute.
    He just loves it here and his role is significant enough for him.
    I hope you're right about Lee. He's been such a joy to watch.

    I still can't get a sense of what he market for DD will be. Is he worth over or under 48m/4y?

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    Lol... hey dabom, who here was smoking lots of pots?
    That was funny as ...
    I forgot brah.

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    I hope you're right about Lee. He's been such a joy to watch.

    I still can't get a sense of what he market for DD will be. Is he worth over or under 48m/4y?
    I can see a few teams throwing some serious loot at him.
    Spurs might have to open the check book for him and while I really like him, I just don't know...

    I actually wouldn't wince too hard at that deal, but damn... this new CBA ...
    I value Bertans and his upcoming contract after next year more than Dedmon, but he's 1st in line...

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    I can see a few teams throwing some serious loot at him.
    Spurs might have to open the check book for him and while I really like him, I just don't know...

    I actually wouldn't wince too hard at that deal, but damn... this new CBA ...
    I value Bertans and his upcoming contract after next year more than Dedmon, but he's 1st in line...
    Yeah, that's where I'm at.

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    I'm still laughing at that.
    He smoked lots of pots... LOL.

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    I can see a few teams throwing some serious loot at him.
    Spurs might have to open the check book for him and while I really like him, I just don't know...

    I actually wouldn't wince too hard at that deal, but damn... this new CBA ...
    I value Bertans and his upcoming contract after next year more than Dedmon, but he's 1st in line...
    I doubt Spurs will overpay for a role player. And it's too much to ask for Dedmon or anybody to leave $ on the table, specially Dedmon who is 28 and b4 this season wasn't a rotation big. He needs his next contract to set his life up for the future (same for Simmons but that's a different subject).

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    Not a bad deal man, though the only way Chicago takes that is if they get the Nets pick tbh.
    They'd definitely have to give them the Nets pick and probably a future pick as well. The part about us getting Avery is only realistic if Chicago is full rebuild and doesn't want the 2 years on his contract and Avery needs to go somewhere to make the numbers work. It's about the only kind of trade that we could make in the regular season....just trying to be opportunistic on the back of others trying to move their pieces around.

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    Kyle for R. Holmes + swap Spurs 2017 first for philly's highest 2017 2nd (currently 34).

    Get a cost controlled big prospect and insurance in case Dedmon and/or Lee leave. Give Kyle a chance to reboot his career on a new team.
    I would do it. Holmes is filled with potential, unlike Fathead.

    Holmes is also on a 3yr/3M contract so if Dedmon (28) gets Mozgov money elsewhere then we have a guy ready to take his spot. You can't get a young big like that just anywhere, where as the Fathead types are all over the D-League...

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    They'd definitely have to give them the Nets pick and probably a future pick as well. The part about us getting Avery is only realistic if Chicago is full rebuild and doesn't want the 2 years on his contract and Avery needs to go somewhere to make the numbers work. It's about the only kind of trade that we could make in the regular season....just trying to be opportunistic on the back of others trying to move their pieces around.
    Good trade idea tbh. If there's a shooting guard that can defend AND at least dribble, then the Spurs have to start him.

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    I wonder if DEN would be willing to trade Will Barton. He can shoot, has solid bounce and can actually get into the paint a little.

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    The more I think of it and look at it, I'm all in on Barton. DEN has Harris & Jamal Murray now. This would free up time for Murray and they already play Harris more than him.

    His contract is very easy to trade for, he can shoot the 3 (although he's streaky) but he can actually dish decently well. It would add the dimension SA needs help with most while not breaking the bank.

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    The more I think of it and look at it, I'm all in on Barton. DEN has Harris & Jamal Murray now. This would free up time for Murray and they already play Harris more than him.

    His contract is very easy to trade for, he can shoot the 3 (although he's streaky) but he can actually dish decently well. It would add the dimension SA needs help with most while not breaking the bank.
    They're not going to give up Barton for whatever the spurs have right now. Even if Chandlers gets traded and Gallo signs elsewhere after the season ( living a need in the wing) that won't be enough to convince them to trade Barton for simmons and anderson ( only guys that fit their needs)

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    Can we trade porker...

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    Richaun Holmes
    Per-36: 15.4pts, 9.7reb, 1.9ast, 1.3stl, 1.7blk, 56.7TS%






    Kyle Anderson
    Per-36: 7.6pts, 6.9reb, 3.0ast, 1.9stl, 1.1blk, 52.4TS%

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    They're not going to give up Barton for whatever the spurs have right now. Even if Chandlers gets traded and Gallo signs elsewhere after the season ( living a need in the wing) that won't be enough to convince them to trade Barton for simmons and anderson ( only guys that fit their needs)
    I don't think he's a big part of their plans now or in the future. They obviously favor Harris (as soon as Harris is healthy Barton's minutes go down). They really like Murray to and have him running point and clearly are trying to get him minutes at all G positions.

    The fact that they are in the playoff hunt (8th seed right now) probably means they don't make a move, but I think it's reasonable that if they drop some games in the next few weeks it might crack the door.

    I think they woul have interest in someone like Kyle (young, solid prospect can help if Gallo/Faried get moved/leave). It might take a first rounder (which I would not do). If SA is trying to win now, would be trading the 29th pick for Barton be worth it?

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    I don't think he's a big part of their plans now or in the future. They obviously favor Harris (as soon as Harris is healthy Barton's minutes go down). They really like Murray to and have him running point and clearly are trying to get him minutes at all G positions.

    The fact that they are in the playoff hunt (8th seed right now) probably means they don't make a move, but I think it's reasonable that if they drop some games in the next few weeks it might crack the door.

    I think they woul have interest in someone like Kyle (young, solid prospect can help if Gallo/Faried get moved/leave). It might take a first rounder (which I would not do). If SA is trying to win now, would be trading the 29th pick for Barton be worth it?
    The Nuggets don't need middling picks when they have plenty of young talent. I think it would take at least Bertans, and probably Simmons and Anderson to match salaries. That's way too much to pay. Maybe shunting Patty to a team like Philly and adding whatever that nets to some asset could get Barton as well, but if Will isn't between Manu and Patty, there's no point in making any deal.

    Personally, I think people should limit their searches to people making less than $2.7 Million this season. That's what the Spurs can take back by moving Anderson and Forbes, and that seems like the most the team should give up during this season.

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    The Nuggets don't need middling picks when they have plenty of young talent. I think it would take at least Bertans, and probably Simmons and Anderson to match salaries. That's way too much to pay. Maybe shunting Patty to a team like Philly and adding whatever that nets to some asset could get Barton as well, but if Will isn't between Manu and Patty, there's no point in making any deal.

    Personally, I think people should limit their searches to people making less than $2.7 Million this season. That's what the Spurs can take back by moving Anderson and Forbes, and that seems like the most the team should give up during this season.
    I would move Mills for Barton. Barton is a better play maker IMO and fills a bigger need with his style of play and has an extra year on his deal vs Mills.

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    I don't think he's a big part of their plans now or in the future. They obviously favor Harris (as soon as Harris is healthy Barton's minutes go down). They really like Murray to and have him running point and clearly are trying to get him minutes at all G positions.

    The fact that they are in the playoff hunt (8th seed right now) probably means they don't make a move, but I think it's reasonable that if they drop some games in the next few weeks it might crack the door.

    I think they woul have interest in someone like Kyle (young, solid prospect can help if Gallo/Faried get moved/leave). It might take a first rounder (which I would not do). If SA is trying to win now, would be trading the 29th pick for Barton be worth it?
    I'd trade a first for Barton in a heartbeat.

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    I would move Mills for Barton. Barton is a better play maker IMO and fills a bigger need with his style of play and has an extra year on his deal vs Mills.
    You trade for Barton, you still need someone to be Patty. Murray wouldn't do well as the third or fourth ball-handler on the floor.

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    You trade for Barton, you still need someone to be Patty. Murray wouldn't do well as the third or fourth ball-handler on the floor.
    Why can't Barton be the back up SG like Mills is now? While he's not nearly as proven as Mills as a 3PT shooter he's shown he can hit it enough. Then instead of a guy like Mills that only spots up, you have a guy that can now also drive and finish/create.

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