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    They did it so they can televise it and gain more money tbh, but yeah I'm not a fan either.
    MVP will be announced after the finals? wtf... it should be announced before the playoffs even start.
    Yeah, half the fun is watching to see if the MVP can lead his team to the le, while all his snubbed compe ors try and stop him.. After the season is just, meh. Like in 2007 when Dirk got his after the Mavs had been eliminated. Having it announced after the season, it goes from a tool to create drama and high theater, to just an award. Same to a lesser degree to DPOY.

    Silver's first major bad call of his commissionership.

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    MVP will be announced after the finals? wtf... it should be announced before the playoffs even start.
    100%

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    Thanks.

    Wish they hadn't done that. It's more fun to see the awards trickle in during the playoffs and all the controversy/player motivation it engenders. By June 26 no one is thinking about last season. It's all about free agent chess....

    I loved it trickling in like that. I especially loved watching Dray playing after getting snubbed for DPOY.

    You know they can't just run a story on NBA.com with all the winners. So what are they going to do, have a whole show dedicated to the awards, with "color" stories in between each one? Maybe have the top 3 players in each category present, to add some drama? Give the winners time for a short speech? Gag me.

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    I think it's a good thing. It doesn't distract from the playoffs. You won't hear ing from players who thought they should have won certain awards.

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    I loved it trickling in like that. I especially loved watching Dray playing after getting snubbed for DPOY.

    You know they can't just run a story on NBA.com with all the winners. So what are they going to do, have a whole show dedicated to the awards, with "color" stories in between each one? Maybe have the top 3 players in each category present, to add some drama? Give the winners time for a short speech? Gag me.
    100% agree. Hope its not some big Oscar-like production with the Top 5 waiting for their name to be called. Ugh.

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    Players today don't want to deal with the criticism and hurt ego if they get the award, then lose a series.

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    Yeah, half the fun is watching to see if the MVP can lead his team to the le, while all his snubbed compe ors try and stop him.. After the season is just, meh. Like in 2007 when Dirk got his after the Mavs had been eliminated. Having it announced after the season, it goes from a tool to create drama and high theater, to just an award. Same to a lesser degree to DPOY.

    Silver's first major bad call of his commissionership.
    yeah, you hit the nail on the head.

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    I hope it stops being a regular season award then if that is the case

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    Players today don't want to deal with the criticism and hurt ego if they get the award, then lose a series.
    Yeah, that's another angle. Imagine how D-Rob felt after that '95 series. I was devastated back then, so I can't imagine how he felt. From what I read, he put that trophy away in the back of the closet and doesn't even want to look at it.

    Another thing to consider is the effects on the NBA's image. They give the MVP award to someone, and as has happened before, that player's team loses the next series.
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    It is Harden's to lose at this point with Houston locked in no worse than 3rd seed in the West.

    Westbrook efficiency is starting to get ugly along with Thunder record (ridiculous tough schedule for next month). They will end up as 7th seed, IMO...I could see Dominoes/Kawhi vault themselves back into the MVP discussion if they keep up their current torrid play and GSW/Spurs put a gap in the standings..

    For Lebron, it doesn't look like The Finals narrative will be enough, so the Cavs need to go on a massive winning streak and finish in 60s win total for James to get it..

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    harden has played great. i didn't factor him into the MVP race over the summer because i forgot the rockets hired dantoni and i didn't know harden would step up so much. averaging 11.6 assists

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    Despite carrying the team to a #2 seed, Harden lost out to Curry who was putting up inferior numbers so gaudy records are weighed heavily. The Cavs are going to blow away the Leastern conference just like the Duds did in '14-'15 so LeBron is going to win it as long as he doesn't take a 2 week vacation.
    There was a "legitimate" perception that Harden was stat padding, whereas Curry was putting up his numbers within the team framework. I've said that if Curry's MVP seasons were inversed, he would not have the second MVP. It's easier not to give a former MVP such leeway. Same thing goes for Nash's 2 MVPs.

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    I hope it stops being a regular season award then if that is the case
    It didn't used to be. Bird was being asked on national TV about winning the MVP during the 84 Finals celebration. I think that may have been the last season that included postseason.

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    It didn't used to be. Bird was being asked on national TV about winning the MVP during the 84 Finals celebration. I think that may have been the last season that included postseason.
    Stern trying to handicap Bird.
    He won three straight, anyways.

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    fans/media/coaches didn't consider any other Spur worthy of an All-Star tag to go alongside him....We're on 62-63 wins pace for the second overall record in the league, but no "triple doubles" tho

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    Jeff said by far he is the best d player on the list and it is not even close
    Isaiah Thomas of Boston might get it. Media loves east and his numbers in 4 are insane

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    There was a "legitimate" perception that Harden was stat padding, whereas Curry was putting up his numbers within the team framework. I've said that if Curry's MVP seasons were inversed, he would not have the second MVP. It's easier not to give a former MVP such leeway. Same thing goes for Nash's 2 MVPs.
    Stat padding by carrying Terry, Smith, Brewer and the rest of that team when Dwight was hurt?

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    Paul George

    Kevin Durant

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    The dubs won 70+ without KD. How the can he be considered an MVP?

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    The dubs won 70+ without KD. How the can he be considered an MVP?
    And has the 2x (+unanimous) MVP, and have been to the finals 2 years in a row while inning 1, and already have 3 All-stars.

    I've been saying this over and over. The fact that they are adding him, while at the same time omitting Kawhi is ridiculous.

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    Stat padding by carrying Terry, Smith, Brewer and the rest of that team when Dwight was hurt?
    Yes

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    Not stat padding when the team needs all your stats to win. Stat padding is running up your totals in blowout wins and losses.

    Though the actual definition is:

    stat padding is an action that improves a player's statistics despite being of little benefit to his or her team or its chance of winning

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    Not stat padding when the team needs all your stats to win. Stat padding is running up your totals in blowout wins and losses.

    Though the actual definition is:

    stat padding is an action that improves a player's statistics despite being of little benefit to his or her team or its chance of winning
    He's nowhere near as bad as Westbrook, but I think he does to a degree. I respect that you'll defend your guy tho

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    Stat padding by carrying Terry, Smith, Brewer and the rest of that team when Dwight was hurt?
    By making sure he has a sh** load of ball time to get pts or the ast on damn near every possession.

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    Harden isn't a statpadder (at least not a blatant one like Westbrook), Harden many times gives the ball up early on the possession to see if his teammates can take advantage of a crack on a non fully established defense. A stat padder doesn't do that.

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