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    Meh, if they really have some dirt on Trump, wouldn't they have already used it? They only sat on the "grab her by the pussy" audio, so they could have an October surprise. What are they waiting for?
    2020 when Shillary makes a comeback

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    This is basically someone saying, when Watergate broke, that the only real pressing need was to figure out who Deep Throat was and what he had told the press.
    Watergate!! This is worse than 911!!! Everybody freak out!!!

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    “I expect for the FBI to tell me what is going on, and they better have a good answer,” said Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, which is conducting a review of Russian activities to influence the election. “The big problem I see here is that you have an American citizen who had his phone calls recorded.”


    Uh, dude, you approved this kind of thing (loudly and proudly), and not only that, but you actively blocked suggested amendments that would have blocked the using of this information to dig into information on US persons. Maybe it's time to rethink that one, huh? Of course, (former assistant Attorney General) David Kris (who knows this stuff probably better than anyone else) has made it clear that Flynn's calls with a Russian official wouldn't need to be "minimized" (i.e., have his iden y excluded) because "a U.S. person’s name can be used when it is necessary to understand the foreign intelligence information in the report."


    Of course, there's lots of irony to go around here. Timothy Edgar -- who was the director of privacy and civil liberties for the White House National Security staff under Obama (and also did privacy/civil liberties work in the Bush administration) has noted that the leaking of the contents of his phone calls actually means that Flynn's own civil rights have been violated and even suggests he gives the ACLU a call (oh, and another layer of irony: Edgar has been warning about how Flynn and others in the Trump administration might trample on civil liberties... and yet here, he's arguing that Flynn's civil liberties have been violated.)
    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...ke-flynn.shtml

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    It is a big deal to actually leak the contents of an intercepted communication (most leaks and whistleblowing tend to be about programs, not the actual intercepted communications). Of course, this should raise other questions about why the NSA and FBI are surveilling so many people -- and will the content of those other calls be used for political vendettas rather than true whistleblowing? Unfortunately, it seems unlikely that someone like Devin Nunes is going to care about all that. In typical "high court/low court" fashion, he's only concerned that someone on his team was hurt by such surveillance, not that such surveillance regularly occurs.

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    "why the NSA and FBI are surveilling so many people"

    ... because they are seriously concerned that Trash and his "people" are compromised by Pootin? maybe the surveillance has PROVEN the compromises?



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    Watergate!! This is worse than 911!!! Everybody freak out!!!
    I didn't say that. I did say that it's historically odd to look to the leaker rather than to the substance of the leak.

    Unquestionably, if this had been President Obama's NSA, the investigation would be principally about his conduct and not about how the American people were alerted to it.

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    I didn't say that. I did say that it's historically odd to look to the leaker rather than to the substance of the leak.

    Unquestionably, if this had been President Obama's NSA, the investigation would be principally about his conduct and not about how the American people were alerted to it.
    Funny I remember just weeks ago Shillary, DNC and mainstream media were concentrating 110% on their leakers and 0% on the substance of those leaks

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    Unquestionably, if this had been President Obama's NSA, the investigation would be principally about his conduct and not about how the American people were alerted to it.
    Oh and this is bull . Obama and Clapper lied in front of cameras and american public regarding the secret spying program and NSA did nothing about it

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    also btw remember how Obama and NSA were playing Carmen Sandiego with Snowden and disregarding ALL allegations.

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    I didn't say that. I did say that it's historically odd to look to the leaker rather than to the substance of the leak.
    What's the substance of the leak? As with previous IC leaks, the details are skimpy.

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    I wonder if Republicans are going to go after the people who leaked the Comey memo to the AP.



    The memos aren't even out to the congress in full and already someone within their ranks already leaked it to the press.

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