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    Anybody else thinks that while it's a no-brainer for NOLA, this experiment can backfire terribly, tbh? Boogie was supposed to elevate the Kangs years ago, they've been nothing but trash, and AD, while putting up the numbers, was also leading NOLA straight to another lottery...
    It could easily fail for several reasons (chemistry, egos, injuries, etc.) but like you said, it's a no-brainer. They got a superstar pretty much for free. Hield is 23 and hasn't looked good, Evans is the type of player who's talented but doesn't really fit in today's NBA, Galloway is a third-stringer, and their pick probably isn't even gonna be in the top 10. If it doesn't work out, they could always trade either one of Davis or Cousins for more pieces to surround the big they decide to stick with. Their worst case scenario (star/s becoming unhappy and leaving) hasn't really changed. I think it's a low-risk high-reward situation.

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    What's the max Pels can offer Cousins this summer?
    Can't confirm but supposedly it's $50 million less.

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    Serious question though: Do the Lakers really believe Ingram is THAT good to not include him in a deal for Cousins? I know he's young and it's too early to give up on him but he's been really disappointing so far. Is his ceiling anywhere near Cousins?

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    Serious question though: Do the Lakers really believe Ingram is THAT good to not include him in a deal for Cousins? I know he's young and it's too early to give up on him but he's been really disappointing so far. Is his ceiling anywhere near Cousins?
    Me too. Are the AIDs and Kobme brain trust really so incompetent they would not trade Ingram.
    Or is Vlades dislike for the Flamers enough to veto any trade that would not greatly favor the Kings?

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    This could end up as a disaster for the pels but its was a no brainer.

    They have two years to convince boogie to stay, but being the second best big is always a tough sell.
    Yeah, it is part heist, part gamble, which explains nobody is really scared of this outcome like they should in vac ..Between AD fragility, Booggie cancerous at ude, lack of depth, and Gentry overall ty track record as HC, they could only top out as 8th seed this season (5 games series max to GSW) and maybe 4th-5th seed next year before it all blows up in their face when he bolts elswhere..Still not a le contender..Chalk it up in "not worried here" column ..
    Last edited by spursistan; 02-20-2017 at 12:17 PM.

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    What's the max Pels can offer Cousins this summer?
    He won't be a FA this summer, he's signed until 2018.

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    Anybody else thinks that while it's a no-brainer for NOLA, this experiment can backfire terribly, tbh? Boogie was supposed to elevate the Kangs years ago, they've been nothing but trash, and AD, while putting up the numbers, was also leading NOLA straight to another lottery...
    What they had before was backfiring terribly. In the end they traded three nickels for a dollar.

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    He won't be a FA this summer, he's signed until 2018.
    My bad

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    Bigs need guards to facilitate and distribute.

    Please me will win some games based on pure talent but will be an easy out in the first round in the playoffs.

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    I don't see Cousins changing his ways. The in SAC will become the in New Orleans.

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    You are ing Dell Damps. You`ve got call from Divac, "Hey Dell, we want to trade Cousins, we want Hield, 1st round pick and whatever will make it worth under cap rules"
    Would you ask for TOP 3 protection on this pick ?

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    I don't see Cousins changing his ways. The in SAC will become the in New Orleans.
    At least he'll be as the second option now instead of the first option.

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    Bigs need guards to facilitate and distribute.

    Please me will win some games based on pure talent but will be an easy out in the first round in the playoffs.
    They`ve got Solomon Hill for 13 mil

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    Kings still can trade Rudy Gay and Tyreke Evans (maybe buyout) to get more assets. They need to call thatidiot Magics GM. Maybe they can get Jeff Green and a pick or Vusevic.

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    Boogie not leaving again, if he smart. He can re-sign for 5 years $179M with the Pelicans or sign somewhere else for about 5 years $139M. He already loss $30M by getting traded. If he leaves again, he forfeits $40M more? I don't see it.

    Neal with it Spur Fans

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    Boogie will be the Pelicancer. Good luck!

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    Anybody else thinks that while it's a no-brainer for NOLA, this experiment can backfire terribly, tbh? Boogie was supposed to elevate the Kangs years ago, they've been nothing but trash, and AD, while putting up the numbers, was also leading NOLA straight to another lottery...
    I don't really see how it can get any worse for New Orleans. They were a lottery team to begin with and the worst case scenario is that they end up right back where they are without even taking into consideration the huge upside this deal has. Plus, in today's NBA, if you're the owner and you're not showing your superstar player that you care enough to build a contender, it's almost a guarantee the superstar will get fed up and leave to form a super team somewhere else. So this move not only could make them much better on paper, but it shows Anthony Davis that they're trying to build a winner.

    My main worry is the coaching. Can Gentry keep Cousins in check and will he able to utilize the most talented front court in the NBA? This reminds me of the Lakers trade in 08 but there you had Phil Jackson who was guaranteed to find a way to make all that height work somehow.

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    Anybody else thinks that while it's a no-brainer for NOLA, this experiment can backfire terribly, tbh? Boogie was supposed to elevate the Kangs years ago, they've been nothing but trash, and AD, while putting up the numbers, was also leading NOLA straight to another lottery...
    It was no brainer. Damps ass was/is on the line, Hield sucks and you are getting superstar for such package, you go for it. Even thought Boogie and Davis are same position, you do it, then try to make it work.

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    It was no brainer. Damps ass was/is on the line, Hield sucks and you are getting superstar for such package, you go for it. Even thought Boogie and Davis are same position, you do it, then try to make it work.
    Yep..there's a pretty decent chance that it won't work, but it's a no-brainer..they're a non-playoff team that didn't give up a single high-level asset

    I believe Cousins has some real mental issues, but he wouldn't be the first guy to turn his career around in a different environment..it's very possible that he could become Z-Bo..

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    I don't really see how it can get any worse for New Orleans. They were a lottery team to begin with and the worst case scenario is that they end up right back where they are without even taking into consideration the huge upside this deal has. Plus, in today's NBA, if you're the owner and you're not showing your superstar player that you care enough to build a contender, it's almost a guarantee the superstar will get fed up and leave to form a super team somewhere else. So this move not only could make them much better on paper, but it shows Anthony Davis that they're trying to build a winner.

    My main worry is the coaching. Can Gentry keep Cousins in check and will he able to utilize the most talented front court in the NBA? This reminds me of the Lakers trade in 08 but there you had Phil Jackson who was guaranteed to find a way to make all that height work somehow.
    Davis leaving isn't really a concern, as he is under contract until the summer of 2020 (when he has a player option). The real worry is wasting his prime. But yeah, this deal has incredible upside and all the only asset that has much value that they lost was a likely mid first round pick. How is Vlade Divac keeping that job getting a return like that for the best center in the league?

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    I don't really see how it can get any worse for New Orleans. They were a lottery team to begin with and the worst case scenario is that they end up right back where they are without even taking into consideration the huge upside this deal has. Plus, in today's NBA, if you're the owner and you're not showing your superstar player that you care enough to build a contender, it's almost a guarantee the superstar will get fed up and leave to form a super team somewhere else. So this move not only could make them much better on paper, but it shows Anthony Davis that they're trying to build a winner.

    My main worry is the coaching. Can Gentry keep Cousins in check and will he able to utilize the most talented front court in the NBA? This reminds me of the Lakers trade in 08 but there you had Phil Jackson who was guaranteed to find a way to make all that height work somehow.
    Calipari or Jeff Van Gundy will be coaching that team by 2018..

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    I believe Cousins has some real mental issues, but he wouldn't be the first guy to turn his career around in a different environment..it's very possible that he could become Z-Bo..
    Or Rasheed

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    Pels are still looking to make moves. Terrance Jones in on the trading block. They are probably looking for a shooter.

    Hopefully this move convinces Jrue Holiday to re-sign with the Pels this summer. Build around AD, Jrue, and Boogie. And move on from Gentry.

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    Pels are still looking to make moves. Terrance Jones in on the trading block. They are probably looking for a shooter.

    Hopefully this move convinces Jrue Holiday to re-sign with the Pels this summer. Build around AD, Jrue, and Boogie. And move on from Gentry.
    Better chance to find one in d-league that gettin in trade for Jones

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    Davis leaving isn't really a concern, as he is under contract until the summer of 2020 (when he has a player option). The real worry is wasting his prime. But yeah, this deal has incredible upside and all the only asset that has much value that they lost was a likely mid first round pick. How is Vlade Divac keeping that job getting a return like that for the best center in the league?

    It's hard to say what kind of value Cousins had on the trade market. He's still a guy I would be wary of if I had a pretty good team and the only way to make a trade would be to give up an all star caliber player. There's no way I could have him be the team leader, he'd have to be a second banana but his ego might not even take it. With all that said, I can somewhat understand why Divac got fleeced atleast on paper. Cousins is possibly one more cancerous run away from getting Greg Hardy'ed from the NBA. I would hate to have to play with a guy like that.

    He seems a lot more unstable/immature then past crazy guys like Rasheed, Z-bo, and even Rodman.

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