Trade Deadline Watch

[DPG21920]

The clips have had the same types of holes for years now. With Doc there, even a clear easy path written out for him doesn't mean much lol.

I hear what you're saying tho. But I think PATFO do a pretty solid job of addressing our needs, and did a pretty good job with all the turnover we had after last season.

Agreed. It's definitely better to be the Spurs than OKC/Clippers (although a healthy Clippers team is pretty damn good). But Clippers are really a SF away (and have been for a while) from really being a perfectly balanced team. That does not mean they are favorites, just as good of a build as you can do.

There are lots of SF's on the market (Barnes, Wilson Chandler, etc) to help fill that void unfortunately and not many obstacles in their way.

SA is still an elite team and the FO did an amazing job of replacing Tim and building things out. But the Spurs have a guard problem with their best 3 lead guards being TP/Manu/Mills. It's an area that should be addressed but it's not easy to do so because neither of those 3 will fall out of the rotation when healthy despite their level of play.

SA can still be great despite that, but observationally it would be nice to fill that pipeline more (but regardless SA is right there anyways).

[TD 21]

If this was supposedly the best the Kings could do, then it just goes to show you just how much worse Cousins' reputation is within' the league. Not only a terrible return for a top 10 player, but within' conference. They're on divergent paths, but still.

Normally a rookie struggling wouldn't be a big deal, but Hield is already 23 and got to play off of a top 10 player and quality starting point guard. His upside is probably somewhere between Beal/Gordon and McLemore . . . somehow, I don't have confidence in the Kings unearthing a mid round gem with the pick.

For the Pelicans, even with Cousins' volatility and the overlap with Davis, there's virtually no risk, given the relatively little given up and the likelihood that Demps and Gentry were out of a job had they missed the playoffs. They've lessened the chances of Davis eventually becoming disgruntled and wasting his prime.

Davis/Cunningham
Hill/Casspi
Cousins/Motiejunas
Moore/Neal?
Holiday/Frazier

In a best case scenario, probably 4th-5th best in West, but it's unlikely to happen this season. They're not a playoff lock, but they're now the favorites and should at least give the Warriors a somewhat compe ive 1st round series.

[cd98]

If this was supposedly the best the Kings could do, then it just goes to show you just how much worse Cousins' reputation is within' the league. Not only a terrible return for a top 10 player, but within' conference. They're on divergent paths, but still.

Normally a rookie struggling wouldn't be a big deal, but Hield is already 23 and got to play off of a top 10 player and quality starting point guard. His upside is probably somewhere between Beal/Gordon and McLemore . . . somehow, I don't have confidence in the Kings unearthing a mid round gem with the pick.

For the Pelicans, even with Cousins' volatility and the overlap with Davis, there's virtually no risk, given the relatively little given up and the likelihood that Demps and Gentry were out of a job had they missed the playoffs. They've lessened the chances of Davis eventually becoming disgruntled and wasting his prime.

Davis/Cunningham
Hill/Casspi
Cousins/Motiejunas
Moore/Neal?
Holiday/Frazier

In a best case scenario, probably 4th-5th best in West, but it's unlikely to happen this season. They're not a playoff lock, but they're now the favorites and should at least give the Warriors a somewhat compe ive 1st round series.

Watch NO flip Cousins for greater value.

[Nathan89]

If Pelicans get the 8th seed the refs are going to go out of their way to avoid calling fouls on Draymond. If they don't though getting him off the court with foul trouble could make the series extra interesting.

[sasaint]

Watch NO flip Cousins for greater value.

"Property Cousins"?

[cd98]

"Property Cousins"?

Hopefully Draymond Green isn't lurking on Spurstalk.

[apalisoc_9]

Sacramento has 7 SG now both prospects and current players.

I wonder if the spurs can somehow steal mclemore for nothing..like a 2020 second round pick and bryn forbes.

[Mr. Body]

Cousins is a cancer and nearly worthless as a compe or. That said, you don't trade for Hield on a value you think he holds three years from now, you trade for what he's worth now.

[DPG21920]

Sacramento has 7 SG now both prospects and current players.

I wonder if the spurs can somehow steal mclemore for nothing..like a 2020 second round pick and bryn forbes.

I would not be surprised if he is easily available. I mean, look at what they traded Cousins for.

[Robz4000]

Spurs need to get in on that if they can't get Lou Williams. Any guard that can penetrate and be some sort of threat to shoot would be helpful.

[Nathan89]

Sacramento has 7 SG now both prospects and current players.

I wonder if the spurs can somehow steal mclemore for nothing..like a 2020 second round pick and bryn forbes.

With Forbes skin tone Vivek will be hyping him as the next Curry without a doubt.

[coachmac87]

Spurs need to get in on that if they can't get Lou Williams. Any guard that can penetrate and be some sort of threat to shoot would be helpful.

Is this your dream scenario? Where have you seen Spurs interest in Lou Williams??

[spursistan]

Butler to Celtics?

[Robz4000]

Is this your dream scenario? Where have you seen Spurs interest in Lou Williams??

I haven't, but it'd make sense for both teams. Just not sure PATFO are even looking at the trade market; they truly seem to think this team has enough, which it doesn't but my faith in both is pretty low these days.

[Robz4000]

Butler to Celtics?

Or Paul George. Could see Bird's old team fleecing him too.

[spursistan]

Butler to Celtics?

[apalisoc_9]

Goerge or Butler...But seriously, they have tons of options here.

Wizards need to make a move. Barnes is in the market, Wilson chandler is in the market, Gallo is in the market....those guys wont move the needle but it would help their bench.

Also a good insurance if Porter gets injured.

[spursistan]

Or Paul George. Could see Bird's old team fleecing him too.

Rooting for trade fireworks ..Boston should go all in right now (before Bucks and Philly are ready)..Cavs are there for the taking, if not this year, definitely the next..It only gonna take a slight slippage from Lebron; no one is scared of Kyrie, Love or Ty in' Lue..

[LittleCriminal]

Butler to the Spurs??
George to the Spurs??
Anybody to the Spurs??

[LittleCriminal]

I wish somebody would trade with the Spurs!

Trade Anderson, Forbes, Anthony, Parker, Simmons, Mills in this order.. Please do something!
Pels got Boobie for CaCa... Someone please take these scrubs too!

[DPG21920]

Goerge or Butler...But seriously, they have tons of options here.

Wizards need to make a move. Barnes is in the market, Wilson chandler is in the market, Gallo is in the market....those guys wont move the needle but it would help their bench.

Also a good insurance if Porter gets injured.

By definition, For WAS, helping their bench Definitely moves the needle.

[coachmac87]

I haven't, but it'd make sense for both teams. Just not sure PATFO are even looking at the trade market; they truly seem to think this team has enough, which it doesn't but my faith in both is pretty low these days.

I think it'd be the perfect fit imo. Mills/Anderson work salary wise just not sure Lakers are on a fire sale regarding him tho..

But he's EXACTLY what they need..a guard who can get his own shot and create for others..and at 7M per??

[HarlemHeat37]

Wizards need a bench guard, not a wing, tbh..Oubre isn't anything special, but he's competent enough to take a spot..

Lou Williams would be perfect for them, as we were discussing earlier in this thread..

[coachmac87]

Butler will get traded to Boston...Wade will get bought out and go to Cavs

[apalisoc_9]

By definition, For WAS, helping their bench Definitely moves the needle.

It won't because Brooks is a coach that plays his main guys 40mpg in the playoffs.

They have three guys right now in the bench that is going to play significant minutes in the playoffs. They just need someone that can sustain a decent level of play for 10mpg in the playoffs.

Always thought "moving the needle" implies something significantly more than average production.