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    What's the "future first"? If it's a Brooklyn pick, then that's a good deal. Crowder and Bradley are good players who can help the team win while having a good deal of retrade value if they just go with the rebuild
    No way its not one of the top picks...

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    He's going back to New Orleans with AD and Boogie.
    They have Jrue who's more than fine and they love him.

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    What's the "future first"? If it's a Brooklyn pick, then that's a good deal. Crowder and Bradley are good players who can help the team win while having a good deal of retrade value if they just go with the rebuild
    Even if it's the BKY pick (which is great) those guys are mega redundant and they have no chance to fill the PF void. Especially this year.

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    I'm just saying the Spurs road would again be tougher than GSW. They'd more likely face NOLA, UTAH...meanwhile we get OKC, HOU..
    NOLA & UTA is tougher than OKC/HOU IMVHO

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    Blake to the Spurs for Aldridge and Mills

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    They have Jrue who's more than fine and they love him.
    Jrue is a FA next year. Its very possible he signs elsewhere...

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    Even if it's the BKY pick (which is great) those guys are mega redundant and they have no chance to fill the PF void. Especially this year.
    They dont need to fill the PF void if they're comitted to playing crowder at the 4 and Deandre as their only big.

    Its all about structure and the Clippers might feel like they have been compe ive enough with that strucutre minus blake.

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    What's the "future first"? If it's a Brooklyn pick, then that's a good deal. Crowder and Bradley are good players who can help the team win while having a good deal of retrade value if they just go with the rebuild
    Losing Blake and getting Crowder+Bradley is a mega step-back. Even if they were able to move Jamal + Austin to free up space for the new guys, it's a massive step back from a talent perspective. Blake is a top player and a bunch of mid-tier guys are not going to cut it.

    Now, they can rebuild but they will not help them win.

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    Jrue is a FA next year. Its very possible he signs elsewhere...
    I know but they seem damn intent on keeping him. Even AD is all in on Jrue and now they have Boogie. Have to like their chances there.

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    They dont need to fill the PF void if they're comitted to playing crowder at the 4 and Deandre as their only big.

    Its all about structure and the Clippers might feel like they have been compe ive enough with that strucutre minus blake.
    That's my point. Going from Blake at the 4 to Crowder is a ridiculous downgrade. Sure they get a great pick (possibly) but they take a huge step back from a winning perspective. Blake covered up a lot of holes and so did CP3.

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    Even if it's the BKY pick (which is great) those guys are mega redundant and they have no chance to fill the PF void. Especially this year.
    They'd definitely play Crowder at the four. That's fine against almost every team in the West -- especially GS. Or they can put Johnson/Pierce there. For a Brooklyn pick, it's something to consider. I'd probably push to get out of Crawford's deal, though, if I were them.

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    They'd definitely play Crowder at the four. That's fine against almost every team in the West -- especially GS. Or they can put Johnson/Pierce there. For a Brooklyn pick, it's something to consider. I'd probably push to get out of Crawford's deal, though, if I were them.
    Dude, my man, I agree that pick is huge, but Blake at the 4 vs Crowder is such a talent downgrade. I mean, they already are on thin ice and now they would still have the SF hole and be worse at the 4. I mean, they probably don't fall completely off a cliff (although I think that is a legit possiblity) but they have zero chance at competing in the West with that.

    It would have to be a rebuild IMO and I would imagine CP3 says bye bye as well if this deal goes down.

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    Dude, my man, I agree that pick is huge, but Blake at the 4 vs Crowder is such a talent downgrade.
    Why do you keep obsessing over that? They wouldn't be getting a potential Brooklyn pick if it weren't a downgrade. Of course they're not going to have as much talent. What does that really mean, though? They weren't beating GS with Blake, and they'll probably be able to get past Utah without him. What difference would this really make?

    Obviously, this move is a lot easier to make if you feel that Paul is leaving in July. Then it's a rebuild regardless. But an elite PG prospect, Bradley, Crowder and Jordan is a pretty good starting point. Depending on how Rivers and Crawford play, they could remain a playoff team with that group.

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    That move would be a no-brainer for the Clippers if it's the Brooklyn pick IMO..they would still be very compe ive and add depth(3 very solid players), this season, but getting the pick is key..they need to begin looking forward and going in a different direction, their core clearly isn't going to win a le..

    The Warriors have embarrassed them every single time they have faced off, they would sweep them and win every game by double digits in the playoffs

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    Why do you keep obsessing over that? They wouldn't be getting a potential Brooklyn pick if it weren't a downgrade. Of course they're not going to have as much talent. What does that really mean, though? They weren't beating GS with Blake, and they'll probably be able to get past Utah without him. What difference would this really make?

    Obviously, this move is a lot easier to make if you feel that Paul is leaving in July. Then it's a rebuild regardless. But an elite PG prospect, Bradley, Crowder and Jordan is a pretty good starting point. Depending on how Rivers and Crawford play, they could remain a playoff team with that group.
    So just because you can't beat GS (who might not be able to keep KD next year without further gutting team) means you blow it up?

    There is no way LAC gets past even UTA without Blake (IMO). What elite PG prospect are you referring to? That core you mentioned of Bradley/Crowder/Jordan sounds awful tbh..they are an elite playoff team now so why do the deal if your ceiling is maybe what you are currently? I'd rather keep trying to add to what I have now.

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    That move would be a no-brainer for the Clippers if it's the Brooklyn pick IMO..they would still be very compe ive and add depth(3 very solid players), this season, but getting the pick is key..they need to begin looking forward and going in a different direction, their core clearly isn't going to win a le..

    The Warriors have embarrassed them every single time they have faced off, they would sweep them and win every game by double digits in the playoffs
    The would only get two players (Crowder + Bradley) for now though and the pick isn't guaranteed to be a great player (seemingly would be with a top pick though).

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    Right, it says "or" Smart, I thought it said "and"..

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    So just because you can't beat GS (who might not be able to keep KD next year without further gutting team) means you blow it up?

    There is no way LAC gets past even UTA without Blake (IMO). What elite PG prospect are you referring to? That core you mentioned of Bradley/Crowder/Jordan sounds awful tbh..they are an elite playoff team now so why do the deal if your ceiling is maybe what you are currently? I'd rather keep trying to add to what I have now.
    Lonzo Ball and Markelle Fultz are elite PG prospects.

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    Lonzo Ball and Markelle Fultz are elite PG prospects.
    Ok - I was not sure what he was talking about. Getting Steph Curry does make it enticing.

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    if several teams are inquiring about rose then there's gotta be a market for parker.

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    Some members of the Utah Jazz front office have expressed interest in trading for Lakers guard Lou Williams:



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    if several teams are inquiring about rose then there's gotta be a market for parker.

    Rose is a better player

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    Rose is a better player
    Rose cucks porker all the time but he is worse than porker. and he thinks he deserves the super max contracts.

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    Some members of the Utah Jazz front office have expressed interest in trading for Lakers guard Lou Williams:


    Strange. I mean, I wonder if they are worried about Hills foot/toe?

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    if several teams are inquiring about rose then there's gotta be a market for parker.
    It's not about there being a market for TP - it's about the Spurs willingness to trade him. NY has no allegiance to Rose; SA very much has allegiance to TP.

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