God knows you've been trying for years.
Request. IYO, name the most successful (least harmful) socialist policy currently employed by the United Stated through federal law.Unironically defending a dictator
Hugo Chavez took over the richest economy in Latin America and completely trashed it. He was no better than Maduro.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...ichest-economy
Hugo Chavez took over the richest economy in Latin America and completely trashed it. He was no better than Maduro.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...ichest-economy
Hugo chavez took over because only a handful of families held held 95% of venezuelan riches
Social Democracy is very different from those near-despotic if not outright despotic regimes...
Social democracy is a bas ized form of socialism. It eventually decays into capitalism as people fall back into their predisposed life roles.
So social democracy, which is the only thing that's marginally proposed as potential policy in the US, is absolutely nothing like the despotic socialism outlined in the op, which is a thinly veiled and wildly ignorant Strawman built on demagoguery.
glad we agree.
So social democracy, which is the only thing that's marginally proposed as potential policy in the US, is absolutely nothing like the despotic socialism outlined in the op, which is a thinly veiled and wildly ignorant Strawman built on demagoguery.
Are you in favor of socialism?
Do you make more than 100K a year?
Generally those in favor of the type of socialism you're referring to stand to improve their own lives through leveling.
Nice edit. You changed the direction of your original post. I underrstand as i was in the process of dismantling your original take.
So Now you're asking how much I make a year? Cute.
My base salary is six figures to include a bonus on top of that. My wife is in a similar situation. There. Now you can pretend to grasp my Financial situation.
What now sausage man?
Where are you going with this line of questioning.
OH, and wrt supporting socialist policy, I'll pose the same question I did to CN, which he pussied out on answering:
name the most successful (least harmful) socialist policy currently employed by the United Stated through federal law.
go ahead pussy.
That's a lot of talking to avoid the question.
Do you support socialism?
Two policies that are enforced by federal law that are likely the most successful (least harmful) are the FDA regulations and public schools. Then again, being the least harmful doesn't make you a saint.
Farm subsidies are a joke. Growing up on farms, I witnessed countless "farmers" who never harvested a crop, but collected subsides from failed crops and got the burn bonus for plowing under instead of burning the weeds they swore were soybeans. You always knew who they were, they broadcast their crops as they had no intention on ever harvesting, thus no need to manage them using rows and implements. Kids broke in the summer, driving new vehicles by Christmas.
Social security is a joke. We'll likely never see it because, like all other socialist systems, the corrupt in power abuse the coffer to further their own agendas. Any way these folks can get ahead they will. True socialism has everyone equal, so the only way you can get ahead is to cheat the system and they do, but in order to get a ripe tree full of opportunity, you have to install a form of socialism to force everyone to feed the piggy bank before it's robbed.
So tell me, are you for socialism, yes or no? Or do you just want to keep dodging and playing cutesy?
I don't believe you about your salary.
if you're unable to believe my basic salary claims, I'm not interested in carrying on a debate. I will say I enjoy the effort you put into the response though. Lots of words. Little substance. Typical DMC...low value posting.I don't believe you about your salary.
That's what I thought, you cannot handle the discussion and so you focus on that small part you can be offended by, and bolt, after all the name calling you engaged in
God knows you've been trying for years.
It might just be that there's a lot of shades into it, much like in everything. For example, it's perfectly fine to run a capitalist economy but have certain specific socialist-like policies/structures.
Things like the NHS in the UK, even the US Military (through Article I, Section 8 in the US Cons ution), come to mind.
That's why I don't get the Socialism! as some sort of insult (especially from some people here in America). I wonder if any of them actually lived on a dictatorial socialist country, a social democratic country or could even tell what's the difference between the two (or even if they took the time to find out). Is it just laziness, or some connection to Communism and the 80s? Just kinda weird to me.
Dont go making things difficult for the binary crowd.
Label something yes or no please.
This type of discussion reminds me of how some Muslims claim Islam is a religion of peace yet the fundamental aspect of it is anything but. The fundamental aspect of socialism is wealth redistribution by the community leaders (i.e. government). Having aspects of socialism isn't the same as having socialism, by the very definition of socialism.
There's not a lot of shades to it. There's deviation from it. Same with religion. You either have the fundamental religion or you deviate from it. There's not different shades of it. That's a euphemism that tends to soften the truth.
Using the word "socialism" or not using it is a binary function. You cannot use it and then hide behind "shades".
We're back to the argument you already lost. Name a society that has ever existed that had no socialistic policy.
You can't.
So, every governed society that has ever existed was a socialist society with varying degrees of deviation from socialism.
Great. But, what's your ing point?
Or Singapore. Capitalists were actually able to get all of the laissez faire policies there they wanted.
Then of course you can look to history from 1850-1930 and how well that worked.
Name a few successful examples of socialism working in countries with more than 10 million people aside from it working for 10 years in Nazi Germany.
It's sheer volume and logistics as to why socialism won't work in the US and there's a reason why Japan and the US are the only "top ten" countries with more than 100 million people. Throw in the fact that most American's over value themselves, are greedy, fat and lazy and also absurdly secular. It would never work unless we spent a few decades as a worn-torn, 3rd world and forget how good we have it here.
You're a jeebo too?
Absurdly secular
Yeah let's be a theocracy like Saudi Arabia or Iran
Absurdly secular
Yeah let's be a theocracy like Saudi Arabia or Iran
You can't make people work cohesively all for "equality" when the society is more people of faith than not. Openly bigoted people like you can't even bare to coexist with secular people, so how would socialism work in this country? The vast majority of the country are of some form of religion.
And I didn't insinuate at all that theocracy would work, you're creating premises to insult me and show you're unabashed bigotry. If being a bigot who has to resort to open misinterpretation to spread their hatred is what you do, good for you. I'm cool not being a bigot going out of their way to spread hate.
How deep from your ass did you have to pull those two paragraphs son?
Keep on ChumpDumpin', sweetie.
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