Rioting in Berkeley to shut down this guy

[TheSanityAnnex]

TSA, I think it's going to take him quite a while to rehab his image from this.

I disagree. He's already got another publisher his book. He's already gotten more publicity. He didn't need Breitbart anymore. Breitbart will hurt more from his departure than he'll hurt from resigning. He is already his own brand.

[TheSanityAnnex]

how much time man?

Lol Did we wager on this or something?

[TheSanityAnnex]

I'm sure a bunch of these will pop up, but there admittedly should be a distinction between those which only made jokes vs those who went beyond mere jokes. Milo made some joke comments but then went into a more nuanced discussion where he still had extremely questionable stances on the issue.

Thoughts?


7:15 mark

[spurraider21]

Will check it out when home from work. Can't really watch vids here.

I'm the one who posted the takei video, not exactly hiding ffrom this ... Just saying there should be distinctions between political takes and comedy (like the Maher example). Admittedly, lines are blurred when you're a political comedian.

Daniel Tosh has said some of the most awful I've ever heard, but he's great in the context of comedy.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Will check it out when home from work. Can't really watch vids here.

I'm the one who posted the takei video, not exactly hiding ffrom this ... Just saying there should be distinctions between political takes and comedy (like the Maher example). Admittedly, lines are blurred when you're a political comedian.

Daniel Tosh has said some of the most awful I've ever heard, but he's great in the context of comedy.

I don't think you are hiding from this at all, I quoted you because you posted the Takei video. You seem to "almost" get it, but then go on to say he should be judged differently because he's a political comedian. Is Bill Maher not a political comedian? What Bill Maher said is much worse, and that is unedited.

I'm just trying to show you that what happened to Milo was nothing more than a paid for smear from the within the GOP to discredit Trump through Bannon. They took everything out of context and used multiple pieced together edited Milo interviews to paint him as a pedophilia advocate when his career and journalism have actually been the exact opposite as he's spoken out against pedophilia multiple times and written numerous articles against it. He publicly outed three pedophiles through his journalism, one is standing trial for rape. He called out Salon for their articles attempting to normalize pedophilia, guess who just scrubbed all those articles yesterday.

Milo will be fine and his career will be fine. What pisses me off is the blatant smear job and deceptive editing.

Here's another liberal saying worse than Milo that the left didn't attack

[spurraider21]

I was referring to Maher as the political comedian.

Generally, we should distinguish between somebody trying to be funny and somebody's actual take... And like I said, political comedy admittedly blurs those lines. Milo made the comment about giving better head as a joke, but most of his other comments weren't in jest, and even in proper context deserved to be criticized.

And yes it's obviously a smear, considering that interview had been on YouTube for a while, in full

[DMC]

I can see you're afraid to defend your position. The rest is for show.

No. You've nothing invested so you get nothing. You don't get to pop in mid discussion answer questions with questions.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I was referring to Maher as the political comedian.

Generally, we should distinguish between somebody trying to be funny and somebody's actual take... And like I said, political comedy admittedly blurs those lines. Milo made the comment about giving better head as a joke, but most of his other comments weren't in jest, and even in proper context deserved to be criticized.

And yes it's obviously a smear, considering that interview had been on YouTube for a while, in full

Understood on Maher, but Milo is no different in terms of a political comedian.

The smear consisted of two separate interviews (joe Rogan and drunken peasants) edited to one. The comments on consent came from a discussion on colleges having students sign off on sex. Did you hear any mention of college in the edited video?

[in2deep]

Im gonna go ahead and say whichever poster has the most posts in this thread wants to Teabag milos

You know who you are

[spurraider21]

No. You've nothing invested so you get nothing. You don't get to pop in mid discussion answer questions with questions.

For sure. Continue drawing bogus analogies then. I won't stop you.

[DMC]

For sure. Continue drawing bogus analogies then. I won't stop you.

Of course you won't, you might damage your neutral ground.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Will check it out when home from work. Can't really watch vids here.

I'm the one who posted the takei video, not exactly hiding ffrom this ... Just saying there should be distinctions between political takes and comedy (like the Maher example). Admittedly, lines are blurred when you're a political comedian.

Daniel Tosh has said some of the most awful I've ever heard, but he's great in the context of comedy.

After you watch the Maher let me know if you thought he was joking more or defending more.

[spurraider21]

Of course you won't, you might damage your neutral ground.

What exactly am in neutral on in this thread? I've been all over the Berkley story and now this pedo crap. Only people in this thread with more posts are you and 4channityannex

[TheSanityAnnex]

Of course you won't, you might damage your neutral ground.

I was surprised he didn't side with the guy who talks out of both sides of his mouth

[spurraider21]

After you watch the Maher let me know if you thought he was joking more or defending more.

[spurraider21]

I was surprised he didn't side with the guy who talks out of both sides of his mouth

Why would I side with milo?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Why would I side with milo?

[DMC]

What exactly am in neutral on in this thread? I've been all over the Berkley story and now this pedo crap. Only people in this thread with more posts are you and 4channityannex

Sure, you are one of those folks who stand in a crowd and cheer on the fight, you might take a shot if the fighter is down but when the dust settles you'll swear you weren't part of it.

I've never seen anything from you that illustrates your position. You'll spend an entire thread saying basically nothing. You're a point waiting to happen.

[TheSanityAnnex]

And then condemn fighting altogether when a cute girl walks by the fight with a look of disgust

[spurraider21]

Sure, you are one of those folks who stand in a crowd and cheer on the fight, you might take a shot if the fighter is down but when the dust settles you'll swear you weren't part of it.

I've never seen anything from you that illustrates your position. You'll spend an entire thread saying basically nothing. You're a point waiting to happen.

this is a bull line you spew ad nauseam to avoid having to defend a ty position. this thread was originally about berkley students shutting down a milo lecture. i took a hard stance on that issue. but you'll pretend i didnt so you can justify the fact that you cant defend your position

[spurraider21]

After you watch the Maher let me know if you thought he was joking more or defending more.

yeah, doesn't seem like he was defending the women for the luls

there's also a big double standard with the teacher/student stories when its a young male and older female than the other way around. if a 40 year old male teacher impregnated a 14 year old student for the second time, i wonder if maher would have been singing the same tune

[DMC]

this is a bull line you spew ad nauseam to avoid having to defend a ty position. this thread was originally about berkley students shutting down a milo lecture. i took a hard stance on that issue. but you'll pretend i didnt so you can justify the fact that you cant defend your position

I don't do tangent debates, since I wasn't in a discussion with you that's what it would be. I'd have to go back and illustrate how we got to the point where you interjected with a question, you'd ignore it and either make a pithy remark or leave the debate altogether. Stake your ground and defend it. Otherwise, just lurk like other spectators.

[DMC]

berkeley is being re ed about it, tbh. milo's an idiot, but he should be allowed to speak his idiot views on a public campus. by letting milo pick on low hanging fruit like free speech, they make him look like some smart, rational guy.

if they just shutup and let him speak on things other than free speech, he'll expose his own idiocy

So Milo is an idiot but Berkeley is also an idiot...

So... ?

its just predictable. he lets someone talk, twists their words and asks a ridiculous loaded question, gives them a blank stare, then keeps repeating "you didnt answer my question" and then "ok we're out of time" and makes some snarky remark before the commercial break

So this is play by play , where's the stance?

Who the is "talking points" and why does O'Reilly mention it in the third person ...

"talking points believes..."

More yapping, no stance.

Find the worst of the worst.

Paint them as the average liberal.

So? Where's your stance?

He says gays should get back in the closet, thinks gay marriage is a travesty, says people are lying when they say theyre born that way, etc.

Therefore....?

- I'm pretty sure it's on a spectrum, and bisexuality is a thing. I don't think she ever said she decides to be lesbian or decided to change to straight, and has even said she can still be attracted to women, iirc

- the epiginetic theory on sexuality, though not conclusive at this point, seems compelling. Epiginetics most easily understood like the mutant gene in x-men. It's a gene you're born with but is only expressed when certain environmental/experiential events trigger it. Gene expression can flip on and off during a lifetime, but it's still a genetic condition you are born with.

Therefore..?

Ok. So which of his political views (outside of free speech) is he sincere about, and which ones are "jes trollin"

because you're going to make a statement or is this just more "calling you out from behind she shield of neutrality" ?

You tell them to clean it up but then complain when they clean it up

Therefore...?

Learn from the best tbh

again..

From the 1st page.

What "hard stance" did you take? You straddled the line in your opening statement. Both sides are wrong, but both sides are right. The rest is just noise from the stands.

[DMC]

I disagree. He's already got another publisher his book. He's already gotten more publicity. He didn't need Breitbart anymore. Breitbart will hurt more from his departure than he'll hurt from resigning. He is already his own brand.

Note to Philo. This is a stance. Note TSA says "He didn't need" and "Breitbard will hurt more...."? Notice TSA didn't ask a question to try to get his point in through the backdoor, unseen?

This is how most people here respond so you can actually debate against most people because they can be proven wrong or right because they actually made a claim. If you want debate, make a claim and defend it.

[spurraider21]

sigh

So Milo is an idiot but Berkeley is also an idiot...

So... ?

so what? that's a fairly clear picture. i detest milo's politics, generally, but i also detest berkley students trying to silence him from speaking.

So this is play by play , where's the stance?

the stance is that tucker carlson is a hack who plays stupid tricks that works for gullible viewers

More yapping, no stance.

it was commentary. not every post i make needs to be a line in the sand

So? Where's your stance?

my stance is that its a dishonest method of painting all liberals with a broad brush

Therefore....?

therefore you're being a . you about how students should be cleaning up the mess, and then make a post about parents wasting money on students picking up litter. YOU pick a lane.

again..

that was me making a snarky comment

From the 1st page.

What "hard stance" did you take? You straddled the line in your opening statement. Both sides are wrong, but both sides are right. The rest is just noise from the stands.

i made plenty. you just prefer to say "nuh uh" so you can justify hiding. that's not my problem. if you want to be a coward, so be it