Page 40 of 53 FirstFirst ... 3036373839404142434450 ... LastLast
Results 976 to 1,000 of 1325
  1. #976
    Veteran ace3g's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Post Count
    40,447
    Andrés Pando andresp

    Encontrarte a Tim Duncan bajando de su moto con @obricio7 en una estación de servicio de Chos Malal (Neuquén). Eso es tener suerte... #NBA
    Translated from Spanish by
    Find Tim Duncan getting off your bike with @obricio7 at Chos Malal (Neuquén) service station. That's be lucky... #NBA


  2. #977
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Post Count
    77,863
    Probably.
    Also so long as he doesn't get injured and his shot is still on he's not untradeable after the contract like Diaw in case things don't work out.
    I am also of the mindset Pop will want Dijon to play with a vet guard next to him.. whoever that is.
    Yup - both great points. He's an asset even overpaid (possibly). Then he can help next to Murray like you said.

  3. #978
    Veteran sasaint's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    14,298
    True, but I don't feel that is a big assumption with Pop's extension and his commitment to finish out that deal seeming pretty firm. Things can change for sure, but making an educated guess? Pop is here next year no matter what.
    Sure, if I were a betting man, I'd bet a lot on Pop's returning next season, but I am no longer sure I'd bet the ranch. I am not sure how much the guy is enjoying this season. Furthermore, I think the tide is turning on his schtick. It awakens us to the reality (heretofore unimaginable) that Pop's continued presence is not entirely in his own hands.

  4. #979
    Veteran sasaint's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    14,298
    Andrés Pando andresp

    Encontrarte a Tim Duncan bajando de su moto con @obricio7 en una estación de servicio de Chos Malal (Neuquén). Eso es tener suerte... #NBA
    Translated from Spanish by
    Find Tim Duncan getting off your bike with @obricio7 at Chos Malal (Neuquén) service station. That's be lucky... #NBA

    "Find Tim Duncan getting off his bike."

  5. #980
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    "Find Tim Duncan getting off his bike."
    I think they were talking about my bike. I lent it to Tim because, well, you don't turn down Tim Duncan if he wants to use your bike.

  6. #981
    Veteran mo7888's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Post Count
    6,909
    I wouldn't trade Danny for KCP...but would I give up a first for him and roll the dice this offseason?? Yeah...I think I would (Manu/Simmons) replacement..

    Anderson/Simmons + 1st is best realistic offer Spurs could offer. Does that get it done though?? NO

    I'm kinda just fantasizing about KCP on this team btw lol
    That shouldn't get it done...but it kind of feel like SVG is in way over his head on the management part of his job.... I wouldn't underestimate his potential when it comes to making a bone headed move.

  7. #982
    Veteran sasaint's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    14,298
    I think they were talking about my bike. I lent it to Tim because, well, you don't turn down Tim Duncan if he wants to use your bike.

  8. #983
    Veteran tbdog's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    5,167
    For the spurs to get KPC, there are few things that both Pistons and Spurs would need to agree upon for it to happen. If a trade for say, Mills & Simmons & 1st for example. And not include Green, who is on a very favourable contract of 10 mil a year.

    1. Spurs are willing spending 15m a year to retain him during the off season. They will have his bird rights, as long as he does not sign an offer sheet before securing other contracts like Dedmon or Lee. This will mean Spurs being players in the 2018 free agency market would be minimised.

    2. Pistons would have to be interested in Mills in the long term as a cheaper options to Reggie Jackson, who looks like he is on the block. This isn’t a stretch as Van Gundy likes shooting PG’s, even small ones, like Nelson.

    3. Pistons like the chances of Stanley Johnson or Simmons or an unknown player on the free agent market/trade piece for then inevitable Jackson trade, would take the next step into a Turkaglu role than Van Gundy likes. And that player will come cheaper than KPC.





  9. #984
    Go to baselinebums.com NASpurs's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Post Count
    30,565
    Didn't know that Fab and Timmy were that close. That's pretty cool.


    Now that I remember, last week Sean said TD was on a motorcycle in South America so there you go.

  10. #985
    Hope springs eternal. SAGirl's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    27,774
    Granted they are different type scorers. As the stats show, Danny is a better shooter. So, I guess it depends on what you value most. And that doesn't take D into consideration. I certainly would not value KCP so highly that I would trade Danny for him (assuming such a trade worked), but I would consider the other guys you brought up (except we allllll know PATFO will not trade Manu).
    It'really
    Is about the difficulty of shots. I doubt Danny can replicate KCP for the Pistons. He takes more difficult shots, etc and creates for others. Again he emerged as an interesting player with the Pistons prior to Reggie Jackson returning from his injury. Picture Danny playing without a PG and without Kawhi and you will understand he won't be similar to the stats he has right now. I wouldn't take Danny for KCP if I am Pistons either.... but it's idle talk. It ain't happening.

  11. #986
    Veteran sasaint's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    14,298
    If your argument is that Danny's stats would have been worse during Collison's absence, then would they not actually be better in Collison's presence?

  12. #987
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    If your argument is that Danny's stats would have been worse during Collison's absence, then would they not actually be better in Collison's presence?
    SAG's talking about KCP, so it's Jackson instead of Collison. Still, it probably wouldn't be hard to check to see how well KCP plays with Reggie, and any of the other stats. It would just be time-consuming.

  13. #988
    Veteran tbdog's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    5,167
    Only if the 3rd team took Butler
    Not necessary. Let's just say the 3rd team is 76ers, who give Okafor up. If this market has shown, 2 quality players and a 1st for a star is what you are going to get.

  14. #989
    Veteran sasaint's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    14,298
    SAG's talking about KCP, so it's Jackson instead of Collison. Still, it probably wouldn't be hard to check to see how well KCP plays with Reggie, and any of the other stats. It would just be time-consuming.
    My bad. Mind wandering again. If you see it send it back home.

    Mills + Simmons + a first seems exorbitant to me (not that it was your suggestion).

  15. #990
    Veteran tbdog's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    5,167
    And if you think Pistons would not accept a talented piece like KPC for Mills and Simmons plus the 29th pick, keep in mind that Williams and Bogdnovic just fetch non expiring contracts and also very late 1st. If Spurs want KPC, they can get him without including Green. (If he is on the market).


  16. #991
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    My bad. Mind wandering again. If you see it send it back home.

    Mills + Simmons + a first seems exorbitant to me (not that it was your suggestion).
    Way so. It would have a be a pretty good prospect of borderline starter at a position of need (who was locked up for at least another year) for me to do that trade.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...01/splits/2017

    Dunno if KCP is that. His splits are fine, but it doesn't look like he was anything more than average. He and RJ have struggled together, whereas he played well with Ish. Not sure how that would bode for him in the Spurs' system. Feel like if Green were on the Pistons, he would have had the opposite results, and that seems more desirable.

  17. #992
    Veteran sasaint's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    14,298
    Way so. It would have a be a pretty good prospect of borderline starter at a position of need (who was locked up for at least another year) for me to do that trade.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...01/splits/2017

    Dunno if KCP is that. His splits are fine, but it doesn't look like he was anything more than average. He and RJ have struggled together, whereas he played well with Ish. Not sure how that would bode for him in the Spurs' system. Feel like if Green were on the Pistons, he would have had the opposite results, and that seems more desirable.
    Frankly, I really remember Jackson from his Spur-killer days in OKC. But he was a ball-dominant scorer, so KCP's struggles with him do not surprise me. Plus, that would seem to bode well for a potential fit in SA.

  18. #993
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    Frankly, I really remember Jackson from his Spur-killer days in OKC. But he was a ball-dominant scorer, so KCP's struggles with him do not surprise me. Plus, that would seem to bode well for a potential fit in SA.
    I don't think a guy who can't fit in as the second option would bode well at all in an offense where he's the fourth option. He doesn't seem to play well off others. If you start thinking about replacing Parker with Mills, then at least you have a better balance, but of course, with Murray it would go right back to being awful.

  19. #994
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Post Count
    18,794
    Didn't know that Fab and Timmy were that close. That's pretty cool.


    Now that I remember, last week Sean said TD was on a motorcycle in South America so there you go.
    I thought Sean said that he's back in the US during the most recent game? I also thought Sean mentioned that Tim was in Chile riding around on motorcycles? What would he be doing in Chile?

  20. #995
    Shhhh... I'll be gentle. TheDoctor's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    7,025
    If your argument is that Danny's stats would have been worse during Collison's absence, then would they not actually be better in Collison's presence?

  21. #996
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    I thought Sean said that he's back in the US during the most recent game? I also thought Sean mentioned that Tim was in Chile riding around on motorcycles? What would he be doing in Chile?
    Chilling?

  22. #997
    Veteran tbdog's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    5,167
    But the second unit plays differently than the first unit, with faster movement, cuts, and spot up. Losing Mills would change that, as he comes in hungry like a pest. Besides I think Anderson/Manu/KPC would be the pg's on offense in the playoffs and not Murray if Mills was traded for KPC.

  23. #998
    Shhhh... I'll be gentle. TheDoctor's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    7,025
    I thought Sean said that he's back in the US during the most recent game? I also thought Sean mentioned that Tim was in Chile riding around on motorcycles? What would he be doing in Chile?
    The Motorcycle Diaries part deux.

  24. #999
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    4,829
    I don't think a guy who can't fit in as the second option would bode well at all in an offense where he's the fourth option. He doesn't seem to play well off others. If you start thinking about replacing Parker with Mills, then at least you have a better balance, but of course, with Murray it would go right back to being awful.
    But lets say the Spurs did do the Mills-Simmons +1st for KCP...

    KCP would be the 6th man THIS year and possibly going forward..and he'd replace Mills, Manu, Simmons who are all expiring etc.

    I dunno what KCP would command on the market, but I think with him being only 24 he'd be a nice asset going forward with Kawhi, Murray, Green.

    This is not happening tho but I do find it fun to discuss lol

  25. #1000
    Hope springs eternal. SAGirl's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    27,774
    If your argument is that Danny's stats would have been worse during Collison's absence, then would they not actually be better in Collison's presence?
    No...It's not really an argument. It's a statement in the sense that KCP emerged as a more dynamic offensive player in a system that gave him opportunities to make decisions with the ball to the point he was efficiently scoring and creating for others, making passes to cutters, etc. None of those things you saw when he played as a set shooter off a ball dominant guard which Reggie Jackson is. Basically he has more potential than being a set spot up shooter.

    In Reggies absence he showed he's more dynamic. He could make good choices in the PnR, could find a cutter, etc. Frankly the Pistons were better when they played off their wings and forwards than they were playing off Reggie which in part caused Reggie to be traded IMO.

    I am not underselling Danny but I do think KCP is a more versatile offensive player who probably has potential that wasn't known bc the system didn't call for him to do these things previously.... or maybe he's just having a good season... but he's at that age when growth like this is not impossible or uncommon.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •