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    Those jobs won't materialize.

    Trump has no economists in his inner circle, and looks to be trying to put political pressure on the economics wonks that will be collecting the data.

    You can't fake smaller paychecks though.
    You mean economists like Obama's Gruber? Those Obamacare economics worked out real well.

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    You mean economists like Obama's Gruber? Those Obamacare economics worked out real well.
    Obama is out.

    Time to govern. Can we at least make a coherent plan to get illegals out? So far this has been a month of f ups. And Hillary is freaking walking free. I guess the people that voted for him understood he was trolling. That's the ticket, claim a deeper knowledge of a basic f up.

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    Obama is out.

    Time to govern. Can we at least make a coherent plan to get illegals out? So far this has been a month of f ups. And Hillary is freaking walking free. I guess the people that voted for him understood he was trolling. That's the ticket, claim a deeper knowledge of a basic f up.
    You want him to try to "lock her up"? That'd drive the Dems even more crazy than they are now about everything he does.

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    Barack Obama: Obama was forced to withdraw his choice for commerce secretary (former New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson), his backup choice for commerce secretary (former Senator Judd Gregg), his pick for Health and Human Services (former South Dakota Senator Tom Daschle), and his nominee to be chairman of the National Intelligence Council (Charles Freeman). As WorldNet Daily reported, this chaos was "compounded by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner's admission of ‘tax goofs' involving his failure to pay $43,000 in federal self-employment taxes for four separate years (until, that is, he was tapped for his Obama post). At least five other Treasury staff picks withdrew before the Obama administration had reached the 100-day mark." And then, of course, there was ObamaCare, which resulted in the "s acking" that Obama suffered in the 2010 midterm election, in which the Democrats lost a half dozen Senate seats and 60 House seats.




    The Takeaway: Donald Trump may be unique in many respects, but not when it comes to presidential chaos and confusion.

    This is why it's so stupid to hear the reports of chaos in the Trump administration. It's the norm for any new administration a month in. If there's still turmoil a year from now like with the Clinton administration then it's a story.

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    95 guests at 4am. Lol

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    This is why it's so stupid to hear the reports of chaos in the Trump administration. It's the norm for any new administration a month in. If there's still turmoil a year from now like with the Clinton administration then it's a story.
    The chaos is because of repeated conflicting statements from the admin. Trump shoots his mouth off (this is after he won the Presidency, I'm ignoring his demented ravings during the campaign) and then someone from his team tries to do damage-control.

    Trump: I can support either a 2-state solution or a 1-state solution
    Nikki Haley: We support a 2-state solution

    Trump: They have sanctions against Russia -- let's see if we can strike a few good deals with Russia
    Haley: Our Crimea-related sanctions will remain in place until Russia returns control over the peninsula to Ukraine
    Gen Mattis: Very little doubt that Russia has interfered in elections

    Trump: I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge, no person that I deal with does
    Russian deputy foreign minister: I cannot say that all, but a number of them maintained contacts with Russian representatives

    Trump: NATO is obsolete
    Pence: Our support for NATO is unwavering, but we expect real progress
    Mattis: The US remains committed to NATO, but others need to show support for common defence

    Trump on Iraq: We should have taken the oil, and maybe we'll have another chance
    Mattis: We're not here to take anyone's oil

    Conway: Flynn himself decided to resign
    er: Trump asked Flynn to resign

    It has been an epic cluster so far, although Trump is probably blissfully unaware of what's going on.

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    You want him to try to "lock her up"? That'd drive the Dems even more crazy than they are now about everything he does.
    Dems crazy?

    His own party and his own hires can't keep up with his intentions. But it's all a brilliant troll job.

    You send your people out to inform the Congress, other Countries, the American people, and then leave them out to dry because Trumpmania is constantly sending out conflicting messages. But it's all a brilliant troll job...

    The freaking election is over dammit. Take a stand and get to work.
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    95 guests at 4am. Lol
    So while I am dead asleep you can keep track for me...

    That is the one good thing about the orange man. He has made people more willing to read about how our government works. The people actually understand functions better than our president.

    But Trump won.
    So it's all good. No need to lead. You won.

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    lol er, going after states where pot is legal recreationally? state's rights

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    lol er, going after states where pot is legal recreationally? state's rights
    I'll believe it when I see them try to enforce that.

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    lol er, going after states where pot is legal recreationally? state's rights
    Gotta fill up those private prisons somehow.

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    Gotta fill up those private prisons somehow.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ration/475563/

    It's all about enriching the BigDonor corporatocracy, at taxpayers' expense.

    aka redistribution (confiscation) of wealth upwards

    aka, corporate socialism

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    That is the one good thing about the orange man. He has made people more willing to read about how our government works.
    That's my invention, garden. I brought that up first, Me

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    Cant go 24 hours without ing up.

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    Cant go 24 hours without ing up.
    Though that DOW is far enough away from 20K that 21K is now in focus.

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    Though that DOW is far enough away from 20K that 21K is now in focus.
    Good for Wall Street. Main Street, not so much.

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    Good for Wall Street. Main Street, not so much.
    Speak for yourself, hole.

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    as of 2013, 47 percent of Americans own stock, with the wealthiest 10 percent owning 81 percent of all stock assets.

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    Speak for yourself, hole.

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    I guess people are going to hate President Trump regardless if they realize they are being lied to by the media or not. I do see his vision. To strengthen our country to the max. More jobs, less tax, fix healthcare, lower crime rate, more inspiration, and etc. But I guess those priorities aren't for everyone?

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    touting the DJI as a broad measure of prosperity is a straight up elitist perspective.

    doesn't even touch the American carnage DJT referred to in his inaugural address.

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    I guess people are going to hate President Trump regardless if they realize they are being lied to by the media or not. I do see his vision. To strengthen our country to the max. More jobs, less tax, fix healthcare, lower crime rate, more inspiration, and etc. But I guess those priorities aren't for everyone?
    you're like an Obama fanboy in 2009 -- you swallowed the promises hook, line and sinker.

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    touting the DJI as a broad measure of prosperity is a straight up elitist perspective.

    doesn't even touch the American carnage DJT referred to in his inaugural address.
    You can lead a horse to water, but, you can't make him drink.

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    I guess people are going to hate President Trump regardless if they realize they are being lied to by the media or not. I do see his vision. To strengthen our country to the max. More jobs, less tax, fix healthcare, lower crime rate, more inspiration, and etc. But I guess those priorities aren't for everyone?
    This POTUS gig is no big deal as Trump is proving. Once you take out the pomp and the cir stance and the circle jerk in the back room with both sides of the aisle, it is in reality a milk run.

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