The hope and prayer, right now, is that the team can give him the MLE, which could be close to 10 milly a year, but a bit less, and that other teams either pass, or are to cash-strapped.
And that's including Manu's retirement (which may not happen) and Patty leaving.
It doesn't look good, my friend.
yea a lot of discussion about it in the think tank section.. Chinook started a salaries thread for next season to chat about it. He could be a real starting quality center and those guys don't sign for the MLE... but maybe a backloaded contract... that escalates each season? Who knows? he needs cap is my understanding. Pau maybe re-uping and renegotiating his deal is probably necessary it looks like.
I read the post-game comments by Pau, and I thought they were ambiguous at best about embracing a role off the bench. If Pop were to flip-flop Deadman and Pau for the remainder of the season, I wonder how that would affect Pau's decision to opt in next season? If he were to opt in, he knows that he would be squeezing the organization's ability to re-sign the guy who has supplanted him in the starting unit... If he were to opt out for a more team-friendly new contract, that would certainly be putting his money where his mouth is!
Another aspect is they may need to renounce Patty and Simmons capholds etc. It's all very complicated and to be fair I don't understand much of it and depends on what Deadman's agent is able to get for him as well as how high in priorities he is to the Spurs in comparison to others.
As we have suspected Mills looks very doubtful and Simmons is probably 50/50 depending what his agent is able to get for him and his play in the postseason.
Deadman has progressed a great deal during his time as a Spur. I wonder if he internalizes how much? And how different that progress has been as a Spur compared to the time he essentially spent stagnating in Orlando? How much time has Tim spent with him? How much loyalty does that engender? How much a part of the Spurs "family" does he feel? On the other hand could he regress? In short, will he be willing to work with PATFO to structure a deal that is mutually beneficial?
Many posters want to point to Biyombo's contract as some inflationary market indicator. The fact is, it could actually have the opposite effect. Biyombo has hardly lived up to that contract and the expectations Orlando had for him. Teams interested in Deadman could be a little more cautious this time around - even seeing Deadman as a product of the Spurs' system.
All of this will have an impact on Deadman, but also on the Spurs' ability to retain any other FA.
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What if we let Mills and Simmons go and just sign Dedmon? How much money can we offer him then?
Not much more at all. Less than a million.
The ? Why is that? Mills, Simmons and Manu, all gone and we can only offer less than a million more?
All of Mills Simmons and Deadman are underpaid in relation to production. Simmons is probably not getting a huge contract but he's in such a small deal that he will get more undoubtedly.
Deadman is massively underpaid if he turns into the starting C of a playoff team... If Spurs win a championship factor that in. Mills is underpaid relative to performance. It's the truth. They guys are due to get paid. They are all in their primes and this is their chance to cash in. Realize and think about that.
Manu is likely retiring... IMO.
When you consider this situation you will realize why development for Spurs players in rookie deals are key and why they are still under contract (including Forbes--possible Patty insurance), instead of getting waived like so many trigger happy fans want with the intention of picking up TOSB flotsam in min deals for the rest of the season that have no upside and are severely unlikely to crack the rotation anyways. And if they do need to be paid the season after.... unless that guy was really going to make a dent it's not worth it.
Frankly until Chinook's post in the think tank section I hadn't realized the situation was so complicated.
We won't be able to keep Dedmond. We gotta use that money to give Parker and Ginobli severance packages for the next 3 seasons. Because if Parker pulls that "______ offered me $17 million to come play for them" and they give him ANOTHER Kobe contract, we're ed.
They don't have cap space. There are long posts about it in this thread already. The new cba really cut most of the space the team was going to have.
i have no idea how much we can offer him, but if it's reasonable i don't see him bolting for a much better contract on a lousy team.
should be be an interesting offseason.
maybe pau will see the value in retaining dedmon, opt out, then resign on a backloaded deal a la jefferson.
Dedmon really is the one guy I'd like to keep bc he's very unlikely to be easily replaced. If hes the difference maker we think in the posteason I hope Spurs do what they must to keep him. They did with Tiago and Diaw so I hope they do what they must. I won't worry much about it. I do realize it will be difficult to pay everyone and some guys are inescapably due to get paid.
We we got to enjoy this team this season.
I've heard that it's about $8.4 million. If that's the case, then we can offer him a 3 +1 contract (3 years and the 4th year being a player option), and about $36 million. Hopefully that is good enough to keep him here.
You got that right about Forbes being Patty insurance. The thing though about Patty, other teams also see his limitations (i.e. size). So its hard to see how much premium teams will pay.
How does the new CBA affect Golden State's roster once they re-sign Durant? Will they have to gut it again?
I think they'll enter the summer with about $40 Million in space. That's counting Curry's hold and roster charges. Durant would take up a huge chunk of that on a max deal (like $34 Million). Between that remaining $6 Million and the room exception, they'll have some flexibility.
Spurs will go over the cap one season to keep him Gasols contract and parkers are off the book after next season. Sky will be the limit. By then, D Murray will be the starter.
Actually if the Spurs pay Patty and Dedmon in the summer they'll probably have very little to spend in 2018 unless they renounce LMA and/or Green.
Keep KL/LMA and Dedmon, everyone else, well, optional
If Durant gets max, they should lose Iguodala and Livingston.
That's what I'm thinking. With Green and Thompson at 34M combined and Curry with a 18M cap hold (150% of this year's salary), adding Durant's 34M takes them to 82M with only 4 players. Iggy's and Livingston's cap holds would have to go given all the roster charges, etc. I just wondered what the actual numbers would look like.
Livingston will certainly go, this is his best chance to get paid while being quite healthy to earn that good payday. But Iguodala might resign there after being renounced, taking the exception, he has already been well compensated through out his career.
Once an NBA castoff, Dedmon emerges as Spurs’ unlikely starting center:
http://www.expressnews.com/sports/sp...reddit-premium
What an overrated player, tbh
Some Bible hugger better get in here and pray the Spurs don't pay him..
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