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    excellent conceit! However, I believe it would cover one thing that is wrong - at least partially.

    I couldn't resist. Actually, Calderon would be a much better use of a roster spot than Forbes. People here under-rate him, but he's been a very good assist man throughout his career, and a damned good 3P shooter. He's having a down year on the Lakers, but it's the Lakers. Last year he was a 30 minute per night player. His numbers weren't as good as early in his career but, again, it was the freaking Knicks.

    Honestly, I'm a little surprised if the Spurs haven't been kicking the tires. A true PG who can knock down 3's? I can't think of anything that would be more of a fit for this team, other than landing some superstar - and that's not going to happen.

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    I couldn't resist. Actually, Calderon would be a much better use of a roster spot than Forbes. People here under-rate him, but he's been a very good assist man throughout his career, and a damned good 3P shooter. He's having a down year on the Lakers, but it's the Lakers. Last year he was a 30 minute per night player. His numbers weren't as good as early in his career but, again, it was the freaking Knicks.

    Honestly, I'm a little surprised if the Spurs haven't been kicking the tires. A true PG who can knock down 3's? I can't think of anything that would be more of a fit for this team, other than landing some superstar - and that's not going to happen.
    Calderon has little to zero value in the short term and long term. Sure he'd be insurance in short term , but that insurance has very little value considering how deep Spurs are at the point guard. ( Parker, Mills, Murray)

    I'd rather keep Forbes because he at least has long term value.

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    He signed with the Kings
    Yes, but he seems to try and stay in CA.

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    Yes, but he seems to try and stay in CA.
    I thought I read years ago that he likes being near the coast/water. I was kind of surprised that he played for the Grizz last season.

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    I thought I read years ago that he likes being near the coast/water. I was kind of surprised that he played for the Grizz last season.
    But we have the riverwalk

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    I couldn't resist. Actually, Calderon would be a much better use of a roster spot than Forbes. People here under-rate him, but he's been a very good assist man throughout his career, and a damned good 3P shooter. He's having a down year on the Lakers, but it's the Lakers. Last year he was a 30 minute per night player. His numbers weren't as good as early in his career but, again, it was the freaking Knicks.

    Honestly, I'm a little surprised if the Spurs haven't been kicking the tires. A true PG who can knock down 3's? I can't think of anything that would be more of a fit for this team, other than landing some superstar - and that's not going to happen.
    Yep, I hope PATFO has touched base with Calderon. Like you said, his numbers haven't been great lately, BUT he has been playing for TURRIBLE teams. Has he ever played with Pau?

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    Calderon has little to zero value in the short term and long term. Sure he'd be insurance in short term , but that insurance has very little value considering how deep Spurs are at the point guard. ( Parker, Mills, Murray)

    I'd rather keep Forbes because he at least has long term value.
    And the Spurs released Nico bc they wanted to develop Dijon and he earned it.

    It doesn't accomplish much for the Spurs long term to keep signing TOSB to take what little playing time they can afford to give to their young players this season. They did that last season with Kevin Martin and Andre Miller, and those guys weren't a factor in the postseason.

    If they sign Calderon now he will need repe ions with the team etc. All they will accomplish with that is to get what little playing time they could afford to give Dijon this season to evaporate.

    Consider all the time Pop spent last season trying to get a TOSB acclimated like Kevin Martin and he never, ever made the rotation. In fact they started losing games once he joined, he ended up the worst player in the team... with the distinction of having the only negative +/- in that historically great regular season team. He didn't really contribute anything... to the point that just keeping RAsual Butler would have been better. Then on top of that suck salad, he added the bacon bits of taking playing time from both Anderson and Simmons who did play in the playoffs and could have used that time to get better themselves as they were both essentially rookies (Kyle wasn't but heck, he didn't play much at all his first season, nor was he relied on for anything). It's a lesson for Pop IMO.

    Looking at their cap situation next season, they have to play the long game. Blocking youngsters from playing time this season who are already not in the rotation anyways to the point they wouldn't play at all doesn't accomplish anything, except basically delay their development bc Pop will need them anyways. And I agree with you too. Forbes is here for the long game, next season basically.

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    And the Spurs released Nico bc they wanted to develop Dijon and he earned it.

    It doesn't accomplish much for the Spurs long term to keep signing TOSB to take what little playing time they can afford to give to their young players this season. They did that last season with Kevin Martin and Andre Miller, and those guys weren't a factor in the postseason.

    If they sign Calderon now he will need repe ions with the team etc. All they will accomplish with that is to get what little playing time they could afford to give Dijon this season to evaporate.

    Consider all the time Pop spent last season trying to get a TOSB acclimated like Kevin Martin and he never, ever made the rotation. In fact they started losing games once he joined, he ended up the worst player in the team... with the distinction of having the only negative +/- in that historically great regular season team. He didn't really contribute anything... to the point that just keeping RAsual Butler would have been better. Then on top of that suck salad, he added the bacon bits of taking playing time from both Anderson and Simmons who did play in the playoffs and could have used that time to get better themselves as they were both essentially rookies (Kyle wasn't but heck, he didn't play much at all his first season, nor was he relied on for anything). It's a lesson for Pop IMO.

    Looking at their cap situation next season, they have to play the long game. Blocking youngsters from playing time this season who are already not in the rotation anyways to the point they wouldn't play at all doesn't accomplish anything, except basically delay their development bc Pop will need them anyways. And I agree with you too. Forbes is here for the long game, next season basically.
    Yup. Agree 100%

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    Yep, I hope PATFO has touched base with Calderon. Like you said, his numbers haven't been great lately, BUT he has been playing for TURRIBLE teams. Has he ever played with Pau?
    Doesn't he play with Pau in the national team?

    The choice really is between Calderon and Anthony. Calderon basically is a more experienced version of Nico. Likely can't guard anyone, but has been in the league long enough to have tricks up his sleeve.

    The question though who to get is someone who can take us over the hump of GSW or the Cavs. I think we need a defensive wing... barnes is gone so who else is out there?

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    Buyout players are always a crap shoot. I think Robinson helped us a few years ago, but most buyouts don't really have an impact.

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    Buyout players are always a crap shoot. I think Robinson helped us a few years ago, but most buyouts don't really have an impact.
    But when you hit the jackpot (2012 Boris Diaw) it makes it all worthwhile.

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    I certainly don't agree with cutting Forbes for a buyout candidate. Joel for Sco-el? That's a completely different question.

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    I certainly don't agree with cutting Forbes for a buyout candidate. Joel for Sco-el? That's a completely different question.
    I think the Spurs aren't going to cut Joel until the China league ends so they can sign Jimmer.

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    I think the Spurs aren't going to cut Joel until the China league ends so they can sign Jimmer.
    I'd rather being Kevin Martin back.

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    I think the Spurs aren't going to cut Joel until the China league ends so they can sign Jimmer.
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    I'd rather being Kevin Martin back.

    This was patented hilarious... lol

    Frankly Forbes is better... he at least made the team.

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    Hey Jimmer scored like 70 points against China. Trump will praise the signing.

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    I'd rather being Kevin Martin back.
    I sense sarcasm

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    If you want to look at the Chinese league (http://basketball.realgm.com/interna...nese-CBA/stats) Malcolm Thomas and Jamaal Franklin are probably the most interesting guys. Thomas leads the league in rebounding and has hit 37% of his threes, decent volume too. Franklin almost averages a triple double but also has a sky high turnover number (8.8 asts and 4.9 tos per game) so it's a bit difficult to tell how good a playmaker he really is. You also have to consider that the CBA is notorious for the lack of defense being played so the stats are all grossly inflated. There's no other league where Jimmer could average 8 rebs per game..

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    I kid about Jimmer but per Woj, NBA teams are talking to him about coming over after the Chinese season ends. TBH, if you were a franchise speeding towards the lottery, why not sign him through the end of the year. He's not going to win you games, but he's popular enough to sell tickets when no one should care.

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    US born players are playing in China for a reason.

    It's as simple as that.

    Lol at any discussion regarding bringing over a player from the Chinese league.

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    Lol at any discussion regarding bringing over a player from the Chinese league.
    Patty played in China before the Spurs signed him.

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    Patty played in China before the Spurs signed him.
    That doesn't change anything.

    99.9% of players in China are there for a reason.

    Mills is one of the few unicorns.

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    US born players are playing in China for a reason.

    It's as simple as that.

    Lol at any discussion regarding bringing over a player from the Chinese league.
    I suspect any American getting paid good money to play in Chinese league is definitely better than all most all D-league players who are getting paid next to nothing.

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    US born players are playing in China for a reason.

    It's as simple as that.

    Lol at any discussion regarding bringing over a player from the Chinese league.
    Beasley was brought over from the Chinese league and he's had a good season with the Bucks, including a great game against the Spurs in SA.

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