Effin D-League

[Chinook]

Still need the NBA metrics community to move into the 21st century and give dat consistency stat.

Like I've said, I'd rather have a player who reaches his averages on a more consistent basis than a player who does it through big game/ game. i.e. 9, 10, 9, 8 vs. 16, 2, 14, 4.

Green shot 42 percent in the game. That's not good, but he's not extremely dry compared to what you'd expect from a normal distribution. Missing four threes in a row is hardly uncommon. Curry goes through that a lot. I would imagine that this has been Green's most consistent season in terms of shooting percentage. He's slumping now (not just this game but the last four I believe), so that'll start to go down. The points fluctuate depending on his touches, which has little to do with him as an individual and more to due with the fact that Pop wants him to be the fifth option despite him being the most efficient shooter (or one of if Patty has passed him again. He's not going to get those looks on his own, which is a limitation that he and a number of shooters have. So Pop NEEDS to stop ing around with his 90s ball and start running plays more often.

[SAGirl]

Some were on him... a layup in transition... Danny lost track of him and didn't run back in transition. The backdoor cut... but he obviously wasn't the only guy... Simmons had a poor game and gave up 4 fouls and couldn't guard him. Every second Forbes was on unfortunately he was a liability and Manu had a bad bad gamble for a steal that led to Devin getting in the paint, plus a couple of times lost him getting on screens... they had a poor game as a team... He got by Kawhi using screens and got hot... but he did get very easy looks from the team. A few were tough but not even a third of his buckets were and he got to the line...

[Chinook]

Some were on him... a layup in transition...

Transition defense isn't like normal defense. You don't guard "your man" per se. You guard players as they make their way down the court. The Spurs have a general rule that two players are supposed to be above the free-throw line extended (FTLE) at all times when they're on O. Those are almost always the two guards, and when talking about transition D, that's what they're called. The PG is supposed to stop the ball, and the SG is supposed to help. What made Green and Tony such a great duo a couple of years ago was that Parker was great at slowing guys down to allow Danny to come from behind with a block.

Anyway, that was an unexpected shot by Kawhi on the first score on the break. Leonard was the two-guard in transition but was still watching his shot and didn't realize Booker had leaked passed him. Danny wasn't expecting Leonard to shoot, since that shot was awful. It's not like when Green's spotting up he should be thinking about what Booker's doing on defense.

The second one had Leonard and Parker back as the guard, and they just got beat anyway. Green was in the corner, meaning that he was the SF on that play had LMA not turned it over, you would have seen Green start to move toward the wing once LMA committed to the shot.

Those are both great examples as to why live-ball TOs and long-rebounds are terrible for a defense.

The backdoor cut

There are two types of backdoor cuts. The one that usually gets called out is when you catch your guy sleeping. That's when the defender is starting at the ball instead of paying attention to his guy. The other one is when the defender is face-guarding a player trying to deny the ball and gets "beat" by the offensive player running toward the basket. There's no lapse in concentration or poor technique in the second one. It's similar to a CB playing for a back-shoulder in the NFL because they expect safety help over the top only for the S to be somewhere else. Or having the big and PG play to opposite sides defending a PnR. "Who's wrong" depends on what scheme was being used.

[Chinook]

Not trying to nitpick, SAG. Just saying that defense is more complicated that people seem to believe it to be, and it's not fair to rush to judgement without thinking about why things are happening the way they are.

[SAGirl]

When that shot went up... Danny just stood there while Devin right back for a transition pass and an open layup... My impression is that guys have to run right back after that board is not in their vecinity and I didn't see Danny do that..! Someone is always designated to be the first back in transition if at all possible and I have the impression that's Danny when he's in the game... he was in the corner but so was his guy and he had to sprint back dyer he took off. As a team they were poor but Danny didn't hustle back..

[Kawhitstorm]

Transition defense isn't like normal defense. You don't guard "your man" per se. You guard players as they make their way down the court.

The cross-match where Booker was guarding Danny but not the other way around were also a factor when Booker was feasting in transition.

Cross matches should be avoided against teams that tend to leak out, it's most effective against teams that play in the halfcourt & run ISO plays such as the Cavs.

[Chinook]

The cross-match where Booker was guarding Danny but not the other way around were also a factor when Booker was feasting in transition.

Cross matches should be avoided against teams that tend to leak out, it's most effective against teams that play in the halfcourt & run ISO plays such as the Cavs.

True, that didn't help at all. Booker was Kawhi's man (or Tony's -- I can't tell from the previous play as to whether it was a switch that had Parker on him or just the game), and Warren was Green's. Kawhi seemed to think he had time to yell at the refs, since Warren was right in front of him. But of course, Warren got the board and advanced it to Booker, who was leaking out in a way that would make Ranadive Vivek proud. It was more of a busted coverage off a terrible shot than anything else. I don't think there was realistically anything Green could have done in that situation. He's was not supposed to sprint back on that play given where he was on the court, and he probably wasn't supposed to cover Booker at all.

[sasaint]

Poor Forbes... in 5 minutes he was lit up and Booker drew a foul on him... I also remember him getting by Simms... thanks for that breakdown...

About Forbes... he can't defend wings period... just too small ... he's going to have to model his game someway on Patty...

Doesn't he essentially play PG in Austin?

[TimDunkem]

As your messiah Harlem pointed out, Sean was full of there. Kawhi had been on him the whole game pretty much.

Where the did that come from? lmao There are so many people here, so I'm going to just assume you got me confused with someone else.

[Chinook]

Where the did that come from? lmao There are so many people here, so I'm going to just assume you got me confused with someone else.

Eh, you pretty much act like Dabom or Gambit most of the time I interact with you. Sorry for lumping you in with that krew.

[dabom]

Where the did that come from? lmao There are so many people here, so I'm going to just assume you got me confused with someone else.

[TheGreatYacht]

[midnightpulp]

Terrible tonight. He's been playing well this season, but I know his swag ass was out partying last night, thus the performance.

[Ice009]

I'd really like to try and package him in a trade. I don't trust his shooting at all and his defense has gone to below average. For the record, I would have been more than OK with inconsistent shooting if his defense was still elite, but ever since that slipped, I'm not willing to give him passes anymore.

[spursistan]

[TheGreatYacht]

^

[TheDoctor]

[apalisoc_9]

Terrible tonight. He's been playing well this season, but I know his swag ass was out partying last night, thus the performance.

Exactly. I think outside of Kawhi and Lee everyone was probably out partying and trying to bed women in the club.

[apalisoc_9]

Yeah..Green has always been terrible with entry passess.

Aldridge and Parker are the best but they're usually designed to be on the other side of the court.

[Clipper Nation]

Terrible tonight. He's been playing well this season, but I know his swag ass was out partying last night, thus the performance.

What's your excuse for Tony Skunker's zero-point performance?

[spursistan]

..What happened to his in shot?

[TheGreatYacht]

ST will eventually realize he's ing garbage

Always 2 years late to the party..

[midnightpulp]

..What happened to his in shot?

Hung ovet from swagging it up on bourbon street.

[Mikeanaro]

D-League is a bum, only a few other posters stated the obvious here.

[gambit1990]

danny took a wet on OP last night