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    Why does Pop always bench guys when they are hot?

    Kawhi started off the game great, then Pop seems to bench him for half a quarter at a time. The he benches him at the end of the 3rd and waits until almost halfway through the 4th to bring him back in after the team gave up all the momentum. The other teams usually have their best players out there for the majority of the 4th quarter.

    What other top flight coach in NBA history does this? How does it help his players by doing this?

    Edit: ing typo in the le.

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    One of my biggest issues with Pop, he doesn't have a good understanding of on court momentum.

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    Why does Pop always bench guys when they are hot?Kawhi started off the game great, then Pop seems to bench him for half a quarter at a time. The he benches him at the end of the 3rd and waits until almost halfway through the 4th to bring him back in after the team gave up all the momentum. The other teams usually have their best players out there for the majority of the 4th quarter.What other top flight coach in NBA history does this? How does it help his players by doing this?Edit: ing typo in the le.
    One of my biggest issues with Pop, he doesn't have a good understanding of on court momentum.

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    I'll reserve my ing for when he does it in the playoffs

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    Its scary, also his Porker dependence is like a bad drug.

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    I'll reserve my ing for when he does it in the playoffs
    WHAT?????? He rested Kawhi too long in the playoffs last year against OKC. He's done it already in the playoffs. Especially in those two home losses the Spurs got in the playoffs last year. The guy is a ing re ed coach when it comes to resting players and when to and when not to sub them out.

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    He's been pretty consistent with Kawhi's playing time throughout the year, Kawhi would play the majority of the first quarters, then have his rest in the 2nd, then play until like 9/10th minute mark in the 3rd and comes back at around the 7/8th of the 4th. No idea if this is the best possible way but since they've been sticking with it regardless of the score, unless it's a blowout, there must be something they like.

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    He's been pretty consistent with Kawhi's playing time throughout the year, Kawhi would play the majority of the first quarters, then have his rest in the 2nd, then play until like 9/10th minute mark in the 3rd and comes back at around the 7/8th of the 4th. No idea if this is the best possible way but since they've been sticking with it regardless of the score, unless it's a blowout, there must be something they like.
    Some games he waits way too long to bring him back and doesn't ride his hot hand enough. Like tonight, there was no reason to sit him out with a few minutes left in the 3rd and then almost half of the 4th quarter. That is way too long in a road game against a decent team that had the momentum.

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    WHAT?????? He rested Kawhi too long in the playoffs last year against OKC. He's done it already in the playoffs. Especially in those two home losses the Spurs got in the playoffs last year. The guy is a ing re ed coach when it comes to resting players and when to and when not to sub them out.
    I said when, not if calm down bro

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    Edit your le btw. "re ing coaching"...not a position you wanna be in tbh

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    I said when, not if calm down bro
    I'm just hot after the game. He's done it too many times already and I've had enough of it.

    Another big time example. The rotation at the end of the 3rd and start of the 4th quarter of game 6 in the 2013 finals. I don't need to see it anymore in the playoffs before I get on him about it. When you said you're going to wait until the playoffs, I had too many flashbacks of him doing it already. It's enough already.

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    Some games he waits way too long to bring him back and doesn't ride his hot hand enough. Like tonight, there was no reason to sit him out with a few minutes left in the 3rd and then almost half of the 4th quarter. That is way too long in a road game against a decent team that had the momentum.
    Disagree about bringing him back too late. Kawhi was right on his way to his regular per game minutes, excluding blowouts, and it's a back to back.

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    Edit your le btw. "re ing coaching"...not a position you wanna be in tbh
    I don't think you can edit it, otherwise I would have. I edited the first post saying it's a typo.

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    I'm just hot after the game. He's done it too many times already and I've had enough of it.

    Another big time example. The rotation at the end of the 3rd and start of the 4th quarter of game 6 in the 2013 finals. I don't need to see it anymore in the playoffs before I get on him about it. When you said you're going to wait until the playoffs, I had too many flashbacks of him doing it already. It's enough already.
    I'm with you, but I'm just saying I'm not gonna waste my energy on it. Wanna change my name tbh

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    I'm with you, but I'm just saying I'm not gonna waste my energy on it. Wanna change my name tbh
    OK man, thanks. You've actually cooled me off. I'm going to try and relax a bit - otherwise Pop will drive me insane. Nothing I can do about it I guess.

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    OK man, thanks. You've actually cooled me off. I'm going to try and relax a bit - otherwise Pop will drive me insane. Nothing I can do about it I guess.
    No prob lol.
    remember, "it's just basketball"

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    He's been pretty consistent with Kawhi's playing time throughout the year, Kawhi would play the majority of the first quarters, then have his rest in the 2nd, then play until like 9/10th minute mark in the 3rd and comes back at around the 7/8th of the 4th. No idea if this is the best possible way but since they've been sticking with it regardless of the score, unless it's a blowout, there must be something they like.
    But not every game is identical to the last... In some games a coach needs to ride the hot hand, or play some player more time with other as tandem.

    Pop's reluctance to change his minute-management killed the Spurs in last postseasons.

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    But not every game is identical to the last... In some games a coach needs to ride the hot hand, or play some player more time with other as tandem.

    Pop's reluctance to change his minute-management killed the Spurs in last postseasons.
    Exactly. He tried his rotation/sticking to the plan thing in game 6 when we were on the verge of blowing the Heat out. The Heat bring Lebron back early and make the comeback.

    You don't have to follow the same set list/routine every game.

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    Pop believes his system and his later career habit of endlessly adapting it is what keeps the Spurs relevant

    Pop has always tried to prove that coaching can overcome the hyper athletic ISO style of most NBA teams.

    Its one of the few things that keeps it interesting for him
    You just know he despises the NBA's whole promotional push on stars,super teams and monkey ball

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    Pop has said in the past he doesn't believe in the "hot hand." And his subs utions are really odd. Parker having a starting role is also still baffling to me. He is invisible out there in terms of impact and always has a nagging injury no matter how long Pop rests him every season. It's the spurs front office refusal to inject the team with youth that is puzzling. If Manu comes back another year I don't know what to say. Spurs backcourt is really vulnerable.

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    Pop has said in the past he doesn't believe in the "hot hand." And his subs utions are really odd. Parker having a starting role is also still baffling to me. He is invisible out there in terms of impact and always has a nagging injury no matter how long Pop rests him every season. It's the spurs front office refusal to inject the team with youth that is puzzling. If Manu comes back another year I don't know what to say. Spurs backcourt is really vulnerable.
    Wow. I never heard him say that. That's mind blowing to me because I anytime I was hot, I wanted the ball and more shots to ride it. I guess Pop never was much of a shooter or scorer?

    I won't discredit him, but I don't really agree with his stance on it.

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    Pop has said in the past he doesn't believe in the "hot hand."
    smh
    Starting to wonder if Matt Bonners 2009 Playoff stats are in jeopardy.

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    Nearly swept by Dallas (4-1)

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    When Pop retires, who will succeed him ??

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    When Pop retires, who will succeed him ??
    Apparently we have any number of Spurstalk posters who feel qualified for the job.

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    Pop believes his system and his later career habit of endlessly adapting it is what keeps the Spurs relevant

    Pop has always tried to prove that coaching can overcome the hyper athletic ISO style of most NBA teams.

    Its one of the few things that keeps it interesting for him
    You just know he despises the NBA's whole promotional push on stars,super teams and monkey ball
    Exactly - which is what made the "beautiful game" the pinnacle of Pop's career. Pop personified.

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