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  1. 03-05-2017 #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
    The President doesn't need to go to the courts, nor does his attorney general.
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    and even then the passage you cited to does not provide means to get warrant, as your bet suggested. it jumps straight to the surveillance... there's a difference there. under certain cir stances, an officer can arrest people without a warrant. that's not the same as saying the officer got a warrant without a judge
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
    The President doesn't need to go to the courts, nor does his attorney general.
    Is this you posting one last time or just stalling?

    You live by the sword and you die by the same. Bye bye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurraider21
    that's only through the AG, if the AG certifies under oath those specific provisions.

    even then, subsection i says it must be "exclusively between or among foreign powers"... or you can go through subsection ii which states it must be technical intelligence from property or premises "under the open and exclusive control of a foreign power"

    none of this applies to the trump case at all, unless it is determined that Trump is a foreign power (russia?)
    Gotta agree and side with djohn on his bet with TSA on this one.

    TSA you lost your account. Leave with honor.
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  4. 03-05-2017 #129
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    Looks like TSA lost his account...

    Damn, must suck after that 50 page thread on pizzas...
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    see ya
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    You can welch, TSA... no biggie, IMO...
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  8. 03-05-2017 #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurraider21
    former NSA lawyer. could just be a lawyer that no longer works for the NSA...
    She's a lawyer, tbh... FAKE NEWS...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    She's a lawyer, tbh... FAKE NEWS...
    hey man, people make jokes about attorneys, but when they're in trouble they don't call comedians
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurraider21
    hey man, people make jokes about attorneys, but when they're in trouble they don't call comedians
    They might call Putin instead... ohhhh, ttttt....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reck
    Is this you posting one last time or just stalling?

    You live by the sword and you die by the same. Bye bye.
    This coming from a known welsher

    I could make excuses like your ass did but instead will honorably kill TheSanityAnnex account for saying the President can get a FISA warrant for surveillance when in actuality the President can bypass the FISA courts and need no warrant for surveillance. My point still stands.
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    i guess TSA will bring back his ChumpDumper account, tbh

    i do think TSA is a bit cuckoo but didnt really wanna see him go. but he offered the ELE and is manning up to it
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    Chuck Todd's wording was interesting -- referring to "this idea that maybe president Obama ordered an illegal wire tap of his offices". A FISA warrant is perfectly legal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurraider21
    i guess TSA will bring back his ChumpDumper account, tbh
    Maybe his AngelLuv account, tbh
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurraider21
    i guess TSA will bring back his ChumpDumper account, tbh
    No way
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
    This coming from a known welsher

    I could make excuses like your ass did but instead will honorably kill TheSanityAnnex account for saying the President can get a FISA warrant for surveillance when in actuality the President can bypass the FISA courts and need no warrant for surveillance. My point still stands.
    Then why are you leaving if you think you're right?

    Dont be a pussy and try to flip this. You were wrong and you failed.

    Did not impressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reck
    Then why are you leaving if you think you're right?

    Dont be a pussy and try to flip this. You were wrong and you failed.

    Did not impressed.
    he believes his underlying point was right, that the president can authorize surveillance without a judge, even though he was wrong by the precise wording of the bet (warrant)
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    TSA you can have your account back when Trump goes to jail just so I can hear your thoughts about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurraider21

    In case anyone is wondering -- actual colonoscopy of Rosie O'Donnell.

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    doesn't he have an account just called TSA or is that somebody else entirely

    i guess we'll just see who ends up updated the pizza thread

    looks like its him tbh... mostly a bunch of threads about guns

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sear...earchid=121138
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    What I find kinda sad/hilarious is the sudden outrage about surveillance... gee, who would've thought government may ever abuse such powers? (rhetorical)

    If you guys remember, this is actually a program that was completely secret until the NY Slime, as they're called now, brought it to light in Bush Jr admin... followed by the disclosures by Snowden during Barry's tenure...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    Maybe his AngelLuv account, tbh


    A while ago I made a crack about how angelluv was a hot piece of ass and he got all bent about it. I wonder why he would care about it.

    This is one explanation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    Looks like TSA lost his account...

    Damn, must suck after that 50 page thread on pizzas...
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    I don't know that either formally agreed to the bet.
    TSA put it up, but did djohn ever agree?

    Im going to have to review this In my chambers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    What I find kinda sad/hilarious is the sudden outrage about surveillance... gee, who would've thought government may ever about such powers? (rhetorical)

    If you guys remember, this is actually a program that was completely secret until the NY Slime, as they're called now, brought it to light in Bush Jr admin... followed by the disclosures by Snowden during Barry's tenure...

    Started by Bush, but put on steroids under Obama. Utah data center.
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