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    A while ago I made a crack about how angelluv was a hot piece of ass and he got all bent about it. I wonder why he would care about it.

    This is one explanation.
    There's no way he's pDumper tho.

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    A while ago I made a crack about how angelluv was a hot piece of ass and he got all bent about it. I wonder why he would care about it.

    This is one explanation.


    That might explain a few things. Angel luv sincerely believed Obama was the anti-Christ.

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    pgardn

    You want to bet your account the President can order a FISA warrant?
    No he cannot. Has to be granted by a court and ordered by the DOJ/FBI.
    Do you want to bet your account yes or no?

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    I don't know that either formally agreed to the bet.
    TSA put it up, but did djohn ever agree?

    Im going to have to review this In my chambers.
    In my chambers it has been brought to my attention in post #92 there was agreement.

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    That might explain a few things. Angel luv sincerely believed Obama was the anti-Christ.

    What's up?

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    Yep.
    The blind judge found it but appreciates the counselors confirmation.

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    This coming from a known welsher

    I could make excuses like your ass did but instead will honorably kill TheSanityAnnex account for saying the President can get a FISA warrant for surveillance when in actuality the President can bypass the FISA courts and need no warrant for surveillance. My point still stands.

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    Started by Bush, but put on steroids under Obama. Utah data center.
    We didn't learn a thing from the Nixon debacle. That's where all this secret court comes form, and as long as you keep stuff out of view, the potential for abuse is always enormous.

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    So you do get how utterly silly this is...

    But Trump can't stop. He is president, can anyone make him stop? It's a fckn distraction. Do what you said you would and forget about the rest. Be a leader for Christsakes.

    He's too busy trying to put out all the fires and landmines I left for him. Bwaahahahaha

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    You know what the Presidents can do without asking anybody? They can declassify do ents. If there was a wiretap as he claimed, he can declassify that information right now and put it in the public eye.

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    This coming from a known welsher

    I could make excuses like your ass did but instead will honorably kill TheSanityAnnex account for saying the President can get a FISA warrant for surveillance when in actuality the President can bypass the FISA courts and need no warrant for surveillance. My point still stands.
    Will you return as PapaJohn?

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    You know what the Presidents can do without asking anybody? They can declassify do ents. If there was a wiretap as he claimed, he can declassify that information right now and put it in the public eye.

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    FWIW, for those that don't know/remember history, the Executive used to be allowed to directly order wiretaps until the Watergate fiasco under Nixon. In 1978, the FISA court was created, and the executive lost his direct means of ordering wiretaps.

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    This coming from a known welsher

    I could make excuses like your ass did but instead will honorably kill TheSanityAnnex account for saying the President can get a FISA warrant for surveillance when in actuality the President can bypass the FISA courts and need no warrant for surveillance. My point still stands.
    Damn, I think your president is a nut but I always enjoyed talking with you here. Be sure to save some of Cali's best avocados for us Texans now that you actually got some rain and godspeed.

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    Damn, I think your president is a nut but I always enjoyed talking with you here. Be sure to save some of Cali's best avocados for us Texans now that you actually got some rain and godspeed.
    he's retiring that particular account. he'll still post under TSA imo, and probably has other accounts knowing him

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    FWIW, for those that don't know/remember history, the Executive used to be allowed to directly order wiretaps until the Watergate fiasco under Nixon. In 1978, the FISA court was created, and the executive lost his direct means of ordering wiretaps.
    He should revoke Obama's changes to EO 12333

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    What I find kinda sad/hilarious is the sudden outrage about surveillance... gee, who would've thought government may ever abuse such powers? (rhetorical)

    If you guys remember, this is actually a program that was completely secret until the NY Slime, as they're called now, brought it to light in Bush Jr admin... followed by the disclosures by Snowden during Barry's tenure...
    Wut? Snowden told the world the US spies on EVERYONE just a few years ago.

    No its sudden

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    He should revoke Obama's changes to EO 12333
    They allegedly said they want to keep those powers intact. It's funny because EO 12333 was originally issued by Reagan in order for other LEO to share information with the CIA.

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    Wut? Snowden told the world the US spies on EVERYONE just a few years ago.

    No its sudden
    And where is Snowden?

    Russia.

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    Wut? Snowden told the world the US spies on EVERYONE just a few years ago.

    No its sudden
    The su ion predates Snowden, since one of the programs was revealed by the NYT over 10 years ago and eventually Congress scrambled and authorized it then (IIRC, then senator Obama voted for it)... Snowden confirmed it and laid out the scope of it.

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    Also, many people that pointed fingers at Snowden for being a 'traitor', now have to suck it up, and recognize he was talking about a real danger...

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    They allegedly said they want to keep those powers intact. It's funny because EO 12333 was originally issued by Reagan in order for other LEO to share information with the CIA.
    Why did aobama make those changes at the very end of his term?

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    And Trump's twitter rant isn't indicative of someone trying to hide anything. Just like a Russian conspirator, more than likely, wouldn't announce "Hey Russia, if you're listening, find those 30k missing emails."

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    Why did aobama make those changes at the very end of his term?
    I can only guess... but my take would be that's it's an unpopular position, considering the dirty laundry we already know about govt surveillance.

    I think it's right to complain about such expansion, tbh, but now Trump gets to keep it. That's why it makes no sense to make it about this or that party. We're all getting screwed, whether you like red or blue.

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