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Did Mark Jackson discuss it with that stripper friend of his and his wife? What a fake ass clown this guy is.
It's amazing how out of the loop some of these analysts are when it comes to Kawhi. He isn't just a guy who belongs in the discussion--he's thee MVP. Even Collins, whom I've always liked, showed how little he watches Kawhi a couple days ago when he was shocked to find out Kawhi was a 90% FT shooter.
Did Mark Jackson discuss it with that stripper friend of his and his wife? What a fake ass clown this guy is.
Mark Jackson offers nothing as a commentator but hyperbole and wannabe catchphrases that never stick. His coaching was the same.
What were Jackson's reasons, if any?
Literally nothing. It was (pretty much verbatim): "You can say that Kawhi is in the discussion, but he's not really. He's not winning".
JVG: "why not? He's a great defensive player, SA has over achieved when you look at the position they are in and he's become a great offensive player too. so why not"
Mark: "are you serious, just because he's not. I mean, what Harden and WB are doing is amazing. Their numbers are amazing"
JVG: "aren't Kawhis? Don't you value defense and winning"
Mark: Im not going to argue this
JVG: Then stop arguing.
Literally the basic entire conversation.
Russell Westbrick and James "no D" Harden are having historical seasons...
To which (from memory) JVG replied: "whatever these guys are doing, Kawhi is doing the same if not more because he's just as great on offense and also the best defender in the league."
Does he know what he's talking about though? Kawhi hurts the Spurs defense...
Thanks. So basically it's just Kawhi isn't the "cool kid". He's just another SA good-guy nerd like TD and DRob before him.
Media lemmings...
Ya - it was truly painful to listen to Mark stammer when JVG pressed him for any detail.Thanks. So basically it's just Kawhi isn't the "cool kid". He's just another SA good-guy nerd like TD and DRob before him.
Media lemmings...
The "then stop arguing" line was just great.
The fact that it is being argued at all is a step in the right direction, a few weeks ago, either Harden or Westbrook getting the MVP was just as much of a fait accompli as the Dubs and Cavs meeting in the finals to hear a majority of ESPN and the talking heads tell it....oh wait this just in
It was - JVG put him to bed pretty quickly.
Not to be whining spurs fan, but oh what the ...
Collins gives zero s about the Spurs. If it's not someone that's flashy like MJ or Kobe, he acts so disinterested.
I think it's between Westbrook and Kawhi...
Harden is having a great year..but is it because he's improved as a player? Or just benefiting from Pringles system?? Trust me the numbers are great and they're winning..but I feel we have seen this before.
Westbrook is having a season for the ages...he's literally averaging a triple double and could take a lottery team to the 5th seed??? He plays both sides of the court..but some could say his usage rate is soooo high his numbers can be misleading.. If they stay at 7th seed it'd be tough to give him votes over Kawhi.
Kawhi is having a career year. And yes this if following Duncan's retirement and it sounds to good to be true..but 60+ wins?? You couldn't draw it up any better tbh. What's crazy is we've kinda seen the performances from Harden/Westbrook before..they've just been consistent. But 50/40/90 and if they get #1 seed he should be a lock..
Look, the case for Kawhi for MVP is not to knock Harden/WB/Lebron. They are all actually having MVP level seasons. This is just a year where there are 4-5 players doing truly incredible things - it just so happens that one of them, Kawhi, is a great player on both ends on a team that has both disappointed (meaning some people's level of play) and overachieved (within striking distance of a super team record wise).
How have the Spurs disappointed so far?
It was in the () meaning the disappointment was in the context of players like TP/Manu averaging career low in points, LMA averaging lowest points since his rookie year, Danny Green struggling on offense, etc..then still having a shot at the best record in the league despite having a healthy amount of injuries.
Ok I totally agree with all that...
But it seriously makes you wonder..What would the narrative be on this board or across the media if the Spurs didn't have early struggles at home and if Pau didn't get hurt? What if they were tied or ahead of the Warriors before the Durant injury??
I think it totally changes the narrative all across the board..
This is a massive week for Kawhi's MVP case: SA plays HOU tonight, then OKC and GS later in the week.
Today's NBA
So most of us saw the AS game, or at least parts of it. But you don't need anything more than the 192-182 final score. So the league and the Players' Union are talking about ways to make the game better. And they are actually discussing things like 4-point shots. Because what's missing is obviously more ridiculous hero-ball offense. I thought at first Silver must be joking, but turns out he wasn't.
No, I don't think that winning a few more of those early home games would divert the discussion from Harden and Westbrook. They ARE today's NBA. That's the product the league is selling. And a lot of us are clearly not the market they are selling to.
So you don't think the Spurs having a better record than the Warriors for majority of season doesn't change the narrative? Even with the great seasons Kawhi/Harden/WB are having...the greatness of the Warriors has been the talk of the media/league..
Just puts things in perspective how great of a year the Spurs/Kawhi are having tbh.
Mark Jackson probably wasn't ready to analyze Kawhi's merits and went all "duh WB's and Harden's numbers" in that situation.
I think it SHOULD. I don't think it will. Unless you mean the narrative on ST, or with a select few analysts.
Harden and Westbrook have gaudy numbers. Try and have a discussion about how many shots it takes for Westbrook to get those numbers, and you'll get nowhere. And Harden has a pretty damn good record to go with his slightly less gaudy numbers.
I said before, Harden and Westbrook are the product the NBA is selling. Do I think Kawhi has a good case for MVP? Sure. Last year I thought Curry was the right choice for 1st place. But this year, Kawhi is better. His offensive numbers are close enough to the other two, and on the defensive end it isn't even close.
Kawhi's 26.1 PPG is the highest for the Spurs since David Robinson in his MVP season.
I'm sorry but I totally disagree. EVERYTHING in the NBA revolves around the Warriors. They're the greatest team ever assembled..with the 2x MVP they are the standard and the measuring stick for the rest of the league. If the Spurs had the Warriors record and Kawhi putting up the numbers he'd be the favorite to win MVP. Because you wouldn't have predicted that narrative in the offseason.
If Harden/Westbrook had the best record the same would be said for them. And I dunno what's this "Today's NBA" has anything to do with them. They're doing things we haven't seen with WB averaging a triple double and Harden averaging 30/13...the only reason why it's not a forgone conclusion is because of the Warriors success and Kawhi leading his team to 60+ wins.
Records matter in the MVP equation...in which if the Spurs would've had the best record all year Kawhi would've been in the headlines regarding MVP awhile ago. Only reason its getting traction now is he's on the Warriors heels and the media can't ignore it.
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