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    To be fair, Horford was a top-10 big back then. But Ive sworn not to put a cap on Kawhi's ceiling for a couple of years now. Dude's pretty much Skynet in human form.

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    To be fair, Horford was a top-10 big back then. But Ive sworn not to put a cap on Kawhi's ceiling for a couple of years now. Dude's pretty much Skynet in human form.
    I hyped him up too though back then. It's just funny cause people here on him now.

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    Kawhi is far better than any non-homer expected, tbh..I don't remember who it was, but somebody on an NBA broadcast a few days ago said that he's the most improved player they have ever seen in their history covering the league..

    I haven't been watching the NBA for that long(less than 20), but I can't recall an example of a player who managed to improve literally every single flaw that he had when he entered the NBA..weak ball-handling has become a strength for his position, poor passing ability has become above average and continuing to improve, questionable shot in college immediately transformed into 40% 3-point shooting in the pros, etc..crazy..

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    The roof?

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    In the conversation with Bird, James and Erving as the best small forwards of all time....................?!



    (Might be the best two-way small forward of all time.......arguably.)

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    To be fair, Horford was a top-10 big back then. But Ive sworn not to put a cap on Kawhi's ceiling for a couple of years now. Dude's pretty much Skynet in human form.
    To be fair, in July of 2013 Horford had been the go to guy on a Hawks team that was struggling to get an 8 seed in the weak East and first round fodder at best year after year. Your ceiling was a very modest ppg increase. Might as well have called him Al Jefferson like that other guy did.

    Kawhi had just emerged as a legitimate offensive option deep in the playoffs and his shooting and ball handling had taken a significant leap forward.

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    Kawhi is far better than any non-homer expected, tbh..I don't remember who it was, but somebody on an NBA broadcast a few days ago said that he's the most improved player they have ever seen in their history covering the league..

    I haven't been watching the NBA for that long(less than 20), but I can't recall an example of a player who managed to improve literally every single flaw that he had when he entered the NBA..weak ball-handling has become a strength for his position, poor passing ability has become above average and continuing to improve, questionable shot in college immediately transformed into 40% 3-point shooting in the pros, etc..crazy..
    It's unprecedented.

    And he alone has made me rethink the idea of "natural talent" as a limiting factor in player improvement. Of course, any pro athlete needs to have some degree of natural talent, but Kawhi was rather unremarkable in all areas, from skillset to athleticism, compared to other perimeter players. Only his length really stood out.

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    It's unprecedented.

    And he alone has made me rethink the idea of "natural talent" as a limiting factor in player improvement. Of course, any pro athlete needs to have some degree of natural talent, but Kawhi was rather unremarkable in all areas, from skillset to athleticism, compared to other perimeter players. Only his length really stood out.
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    His work ethic must be unbelievable.............

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    There are a few examples of guys that could not shoot and had poor skills coming into the league that went on to be 1st team All-NBA.

    Deandre Jordan, Russell Westbrook, Chauncey Billups, Marc Gasol, Dwight Howard, Dirk Nowitzki, Steve Nash, Kobe Bryant, Glen Rice, Scottie Pippen, Sidney Moncrief, etc had to develop quite a bit to reach the top of the NBA.

    If anything it is more common now with the lack of player development that you saw once players started skipping college ball

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    very high

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    Kawhi's ceiling is Pop tbh

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    ah I see what you did there. Insert crying Jordan meme

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    Kawhi is far better than any non-homer expected, tbh..I don't remember who it was, but somebody on an NBA broadcast a few days ago said that he's the most improved player they have ever seen in their history covering the league..
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    That was Doug Collins.

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    Kawhi is the league MVP and the only reason he wouldn't win it is because of the market he plays in. Defensive POY is no longer good enough to pay proper respect to Kawhi's level of performance on the court. It's time for Kawhi's MVP status to be recognized as absolutely legit. He proved last night he is every bit as good and better than a guy (Harden) who is recognized as a legit MVP candidate.
    MVP!

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    It's unprecedented.

    And he alone has made me rethink the idea of "natural talent" as a limiting factor in player improvement. Of course, any pro athlete needs to have some degree of natural talent, but Kawhi was rather unremarkable in all areas, from skillset to athleticism, compared to other perimeter players. Only his length really stood out.


    This guy called it after the 2014 le

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    As tensions heightened down the stretch, Leonard called off Danny Green, who was guarding Harden, on defensive switches because he wanted to match up with the Rockets guard. Green said he tried to guard Harden to give Leonard a breather, but the Spurs forward "wouldn't have it."

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    It's unprecedented.

    And he alone has made me rethink the idea of "natural talent" as a limiting factor in player improvement. Of course, any pro athlete needs to have some degree of natural talent, but Kawhi was rather unremarkable in all areas, from skillset to athleticism, compared to other perimeter players. Only his length really stood out.
    And his incredible work ethic! And let us not forget those massive mits!!!

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    Of the current and very recent past MVP candidates, Curry, Durant, James, Harden, Westbrook, and Leonard, Leonard is the only player imo on an upward trajectory demonstrating apparent ability to continue improving.

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    ah I see what you did there. Insert crying Jordan meme


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    No clue. He just won't stop getting better.

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    God.

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    Pretty damn high


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