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    If Westbrook wasn't averaging a triple double I think Kawhi would be a lock going forward after last night.
    Robertson didn't get MVP every season when he averaged a triple double. Jordan didn't win in 89 averaging 32/8/8 while shooting 54%!!!

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    I actually did not know that. Kind of bull imo...
    yeah, a lot of people aren't aware of this. The league has bas ized the assist.

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    If it's overrated then why hasn't it been done in 50 years?? I want Kawhi to win it but if he doesn't I'd understand why...
    Because players generally don't mortgage team chemistry and camaraderie and go full try-hard for stats often at the expense of winning. Westbrook is a unique case because after the departures of Harden, Jackson, and Durant, he's the only offense they have left so he basically has the whole team under his thumb since he knows he has the leverage to keep OKC relevant or leave and send it to the abyss forever where it'll likely relocate again. So he essentially has carte blanche to do whatever he wants with that franchise, ala Lebron in Cleveland. But Lebron actually favors winning over stats at this point in his career because he knows his legacy hangs in the balance.

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    One all star on the team, second best record in the NBA, 2nd in PER, plays great on both sides of the ball. But I'm sure he'll take a chip over MVP. Narrative will change if he continues this against golden state this weekend.

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    Westbrook currently lighting up the Blazers on NBA TV. He really wants the MVP tbh, which hurts Kawhi cause I really don't think it matters much to him. It's Westbrook's to lose imho.


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    Westbrook currently lighting up the Blazers on NBA TV. He really wants the MVP tbh, which hurts Kawhi cause I really don't think it matters much to him. It's Westbrook's to lose imho.


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    He can have tons of fun with his MVP trophy (which he says he doesn't care about) and his 1st round exit with his beautiful wife and kids during the off-season.
    He better get used to it... those 1st round exits.

    Kawhi and the Spurs search for more. Hopefully, they get there.

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    Westbrook currently lighting up the Blazers on NBA TV. He really wants the MVP tbh, which hurts Kawhi cause I really don't think it matters much to him. It's Westbrook's to lose imho.


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    He was going after the all Star game MVP chucking left and right too. No shame.

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    LMAO love Brodie the chucker.

    56pts and still losing.

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    The big O and Magic's assists were harder to get back in the day. Many of you may not realize that the NBA changed the way of getting an assist. Back in the day, an assist was a pass leading to a basket. Now, if you take the bal out and pass it to someone and they hold it for 20 seconds playing with it and finally score, that assist is yours.
    Are you serious? I thought that they had to score directly off the pass? If it's changed to what you say, where a player can dribble around with it and then score, that is BS.

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    I'm torn on Westbrook, tbh. He trully is posting monster stats that I don't know how many other folks could post, stat padding or not; but is also true that he can only post these numbers because he's not playing on a good team, and then there's that more than reasonable hypothesis that claims that one players hogging so much ball time isn't conductive to winning basketball, no matter how bad you think your teammates are.

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    I'm torn on Westbrook, tbh. He trully is posting monster stats that I don't know how many other folks could post, stat padding or not; but is also true that he can only post these numbers because he's not playing on a good team, and then there's that more than reasonable hypothesis that claims that one players hogging so much ball time isn't conductive to winning basketball, no matter how bad you think your teammates are.
    Don't care how good he is; this is not a winning formula: Westbrook 39 FGAs/nobody else on his team had more than 9 FGAs.. in laughable level of ball-hogging..
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    Might as well change the award name to MTD (Most Triple Doubles) or MMS (Most Monstrous Stats) .

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    Harden is Kwahi's biggest compe or, followed by LeBron. If Kwahi beats Warriors both times (they will be on back-to-back, we will be home, we have a real chance) and takes first seed, they have to give it to him.

    Westbrook has no chance, Oscar Robertson did not win MVP during his triple double season. A lot of top players on bad teams can pile up stats. I really don't like the way Westbrook gets more rebounds than Steven Adams (a monster of a rebounder) as a PG. It is pure stat padding. No way you get MVP as a 7th seed.

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    58 points and lost = ing all-time disgraceful. The Thunderefs are 35-29. Westbrick's MVP candidancy is done, at least until next year.

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    Harden is Kwahi's biggest compe or, followed by LeBron. If Kwahi beats Warriors both times (they will be on back-to-back, we will be home, we have a real chance) and takes first seed, they have to give it to him.

    Westbrook has no chance, Oscar Robertson did not win MVP during his triple double season. A lot of top players on bad teams can pile up stats. I really don't like the way Westbrook gets more rebounds than Steven Adams (a monster of a rebounder) as a PG. It is pure stat padding. No way you get MVP as a 7th seed.
    Selfishness at its finest. Westbrick is arguably the most selfish player in all-time NBA history. Not satisfied with the double doubles so he has to box out his own teammates and demand they let him get his rebounds. What a dumb got.

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    Because he doesn't do the cooking hand motion.

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    Selfishness at its finest. Westbrick is arguably the most selfish player in all-time NBA history. Not satisfied with the double doubles so he has to box out his own teammates and demand they let him get his rebounds. What a dumb got.
    He crashes offensive boats so hard to stat pad, he constantly leaves his teammates scrambling to get back on D.

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    Are you serious? I thought that they had to score directly off the pass? If it's changed to what you say, where a player can dribble around with it and then score, that is BS.

    The test is whether the pass "led directly to the score". It's up to the judgment of the scorer, so what is an assist in one game might not be in another game. Twenty seconds is an exaggeration, but I've seen guys take a pass out near the FT line, dribble with their back to the basket, then put on a little shake-n-bake, curl around their defender and dribble again while taking it to the rim. And THAT gets scored as an assist. The continuation rule is ridiculous because of how it gets interpreted on any given play - but the way they score assists makes that look totally reasonable. The good news is that most assists are still the kind we're used to.

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    Quotes I love from the Blazers-Thunderefs game:

    After he missed (a wide-open 3 in a one-point game with 44 seconds left), the Portland Trail Blazers called timeout, and Westbrook smacked his hands together and clenched his fists."Yeah, just missed 'em," he said. "Made 'em all game, missed that one. But ... it's all right."
    "Those are definitely shots I'll live with because I'll make them nine out of 10; just happen to miss that one."
    In the final 90 seconds, he had three consecutive misses -- two clean midrange jumpers and the open 3 -- and then misfired on a potential game-tying 3 with 15 seconds left from somewhere around 28 feet.


    But but but I make *all* the time!


    The trade deadline supposedly procured more depth and weaponry for Westbrook to utilize, but the integration process has been rocky.


    - I have to stat pad because there's no help.
    - Ok, here's help.
    - Hmm no thanks it's *my* ball!

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    I read last weekend on social media about how some people would still take Kyrie Irving over Kawhi in a 2011 redraft. I wonder what those fools think now.

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    He crashes offensive boats so hard to stat pad, he constantly leaves his teammates scrambling to get back on D.
    that too.

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    I read last weekend on social media about how some people would still take Kyrie Irving over Kawhi in a 2011 redraft. I wonder what those fools think now.
    granted, that's a tough one, Kyrie made arguably the single most clutch NBA shot since the turn of the century.

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    After this game tonight Spurs are playing on National Television for the next 4 games. Time for Kawhi to showcase some more.

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    During the Kings pregame show Jerry Reynolds said Kawhi gets his vote for MVP. Kings insider James Ham agreed with him. They did a twitter vote and Leonard led the vote.

    Saying all that they feel he'll get overlooked because of the group think mentality.

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    After this game tonight Spurs are playing on National Television for the next 4 games. Time for Kawhi to showcase some more.
    tonight, no kawhi... we're getting ground into mince meat at home by a cellar dweller. MVP

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    granted, that's a tough one, Kyrie made arguably the single most clutch NBA shot since the turn of the century.
    It's not tough at all lmao. Swap Kawhi with Kyrie last Finals (in a vacuum) and the Cavs win easily. It wouldn't even come down to the final shot or game 7 for that matter

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