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    "Carson was saying anything horrible"

    He HORRIBLY exposed his tone-deafness, his ignorance, while playing into the Repug propaganda that

    "slavery wasn't so bad, slaves were happy campers, and would be better off today as slaves under The Man"

    He seems to be medical nerd, ignorant of anything outside of his medical specialty.
    I'm glad slavery happened. There. I said it. As a black American, I'm very grateful that my ancestors went through that and came out the other side. Slavery and Jim Crow are at the top of a disturbing list of things this country has done. But we don't have to constantly act hurt about it. Some folks act like it was ing 9/11 with how sensitive they are about it.

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    I'm glad slavery happened. There. I said it.
    You get to enjoy the American life thanks to the entrapment of your ancestors. freedom isn't free

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    You get to enjoy the American life thanks to the entrapment of your ancestors. freedom isn't free
    Damned straight. And that seems to have been what Carson was saying. Most of us who have deep American roots only have them because of the sacrifice of the people who came before us. It was worse for black people and Native Americans, but it's all part of the story.

    This is what Carson said:

    "That's what America is about, a land of dreams and opportunity," Carson said. "There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less. But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters, might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land."
    Throw in a line about how blacks were unwilling immigrants due to the horrible white man, and who really has an issue with this statement?

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    Meh, Carson just gets put on blast because he's a religious conservative. He does say some nutty sometimes, but I don't think the blowback was deserved here.

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    I'm glad slavery happened. There. I said it. As a black American, I'm very grateful that my ancestors went through that and came out the other side. Slavery and Jim Crow are at the top of a disturbing list of things this country has done. But we don't have to constantly act hurt about it. Some folks act like it was ing 9/11 with how sensitive they are about it.

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    Meh, Carson just gets put on blast because he's a religious conservative. He does say some nutty sometimes, but I don't think the blowback was deserved here.
    Well of course you don't.

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    I'm glad slavery happened. There. I said it. As a black American, I'm very grateful that my ancestors went through that and came out the other side. Slavery and Jim Crow are at the top of a disturbing list of things this country has done. But we don't have to constantly act hurt about it. Some folks act like it was ing 9/11 with how sensitive they are about it.
    You can thank the Jews


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    Meh, Carson just gets put on blast because he's a religious conservative. He does say some nutty sometimes, but I don't think the blowback was deserved here.
    He also gets put on blast because he's ridiculously unqualified to be in this position

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    Besides being hilarious, I don't think he's wrong. We should never forget the horrible things we have the capacity to do to one another if we're selfish and ignorant. But it is so tiring when people act like current white people were the ones who enslaved current black people. There's that has to be reckoned with race relations but, "Your people did this to my people in the 1800s" isn't one of them.

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    ^^^another quote from that speech

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    Yeah that dude is scary

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    11 times Obama had referred to slaves as immigrants, and noted there was barely a peep of outrage each time. What changed?

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    obama did it too

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    No different than a boxcar full of s dying because some coyote forgot to retrieve them. Liberals call them immigrants. 150 cambodians in the hull of a ship in a California port, suddenly they are immigrants. The only difference between these people and the slaves is the willingness to actually immigrate.

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    Those 30% of niggers dying on the slave ship, living the American Dream.
    Better odds than living in Chicago tbh

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    No different than a boxcar full of s dying because some coyote forgot to retrieve them. Liberals call them immigrants. 150 cambodians in the hull of a ship in a California port, suddenly they are immigrants. The only difference between these people and the slaves is the willingness to actually immigrate.
    That only difference is big

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    That only difference is big
    Not really. Either way people are here to live permanently. Either way they both satisfy the definition of the word "immigrant". The word has been politicized to mean "poor, oppressed people looking for a better life" but in reality it's just someone who relocates to another area to live permanently. There's no mention of will.

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    immigrant
    [im-i-gruh nt]
    noun
    1.
    a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence.


    migrate
    [mahy-greyt]
    verb (used without object), migrated, migrating.
    1.
    to go from one country, region, or place to another.
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    Yeah I guess technically he could be right but the connotation is there that immigration has always referred to free movement; not forced.

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    Yeah I guess technically he could be right but the connotation is there that immigration has always referred to free movement; not forced.
    Connotation is largely based on how much you like the person saying it. When Obama said it, that was different.

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