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    Says the CPC mouthpiece
    Truth hurts I see....

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    we can alleviate a lot of our incarceration issues if we reversed our fundamentally flawed approach on drugs...

    iirc something like a quarter of our inmates are in there on drug charges, and another 15-20% said they committed their crimes to get drug money
    Flawed thinking. If the penalty was soft there'd be no money in it. Then these folks would find other, more severe avenues to make money off the grid. Some wouldn't and "possession" should be legal, but you can't even legally sell tobacco off the books.

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    At least we have elections. China's "elections" are shams that are totally controlled by the Communist Party. All political dissent is banned. Other political parties aren't allowed to exist unless they help the Communist Party stay in power. The few other parties in China that do exist serve as status symbols for well-connected elites, not as true compe ors to the Communists.

    I'll take messy politics any day of the week over a totalitarian regime.
    China has erections, which explains why Dale left.

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    I been to China many times. Got business there. Its not the Communist slave county your media paints it to be ya inbred.
    Sally Struthers has been to Ethiopia, she remained fat. You didn't live in China, you weren't a citizen. You have no idea how it is there.

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    Flawed thinking. If the penalty was soft there'd be no money in it. Then these folks would find other, more severe avenues to make money off the grid. Some wouldn't and "possession" should be legal, but you can't even legally sell tobacco off the books.
    i wonder why there isn't a huge black market in the US for tobacco that leads to gang shootings and incrimination


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    Sally Struthers has been to Ethiopia, she remained fat. You didn't live in China, you weren't a citizen. You have no idea how it is there.
    You dont have to become chinese to have a decent idea tbqh

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    Truth hurts I see....
    Time to give this one up. You have been utterly thoroughly destroyed in this thread.

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    Time to give this one up. You have been utterly thoroughly destroyed in this thread.
    Well you would know about getting utterly destroyed as thats a daily occurrence for you

    But Im gonna disagree this time. Still funny to see China exposing US hypocrisy

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    Well you would know about getting utterly destroyed as thats a daily occurrence for you

    But Im gonna disagree this time. Still funny to see China exposing US hypocrisy
    You're imploding.

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    i wonder why there isn't a huge black market in the US for tobacco that leads to gang shootings and incrimination

    You missed the point in your attempt to be clever.

    During prohibition the gangs made money by bootlegging liquor. After the end of prohibition those gangs moved on to other illegal substances. If you legalize or reduce the penalties for illegal substances, you increase the supply therefore reducing the profit enough to cause enterprising gangs to look elsewhere for high profit business.

    also

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspi.../#614e11573f56

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    Well you would know about getting utterly destroyed as thats a daily occurrence for you

    But Im gonna disagree this time. Still funny to see China exposing US hypocrisy
    China is being hypocritical, so how can hypocrisy expose hypocrisy?

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    You missed the point in your attempt to be clever.

    During prohibition the gangs made money by bootlegging liquor. After the end of prohibition those gangs moved on to other illegal substances. If you legalize or reduce the penalties for illegal substances, you increase the supply therefore reducing the profit enough to cause enterprising gangs to look elsewhere for high profit business.

    also

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspi.../#614e11573f56
    yes, which is why constantly criminalizing drugs/substances is an approach that is doomed to fail

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    China is being hypocritical, so how can hypocrisy expose hypocrisy?
    Easy. China is always example #1 when an american speaks about a totalitarian state. The fact that this totalitarian state makes a yearly Human Rights Report that is 100% spot on on US is great and exposes US hypocrisy. And is hilarious

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    Trump said it himself, "we're not so innocent".

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    Trump said it himself, "we're not so innocent".
    We aren't, but next to China, we look like the most innocent country in the world.

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    I been to China many times. Got business there. Its not the Communist slave county your media paints it to be ya inbred.
    "I know China"

    Business there...
    B fn S.

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    We aren't, but next to Russia, we look like the most innocent country in the world.

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    yes, which is why constantly criminalizing drugs/substances is an approach that is doomed to fail
    You're not using the word "criminalizing" correctly. The drugs are illegal, they aren't criminalized. Criminalizing is something you do to the act of using or selling drugs. The drugs themselves are simply banned.

    Assume for sake of arguendo that no drugs were illegal so there was no money to be made smuggling and distributing them under the radar/off the grid. Where would the easy money be then? I'm sure you can think of a few things, like pros ution (hey, legalize that too), stolen cars (legalize stealing cars), chop shops with stolen auto parts (legalize that as well). So we legalize everthing, no one is breaking the law. Now we have no in in jail and you cannot have a society of normal day to day life. That's the extreme, but you seem to think if you just legalize the soft stuff that the same people wouldn't look for the next quick score.

    The answer isn't to stop putting Jr in timeout when he acts out. It's to make a stiffer penalty. We wring our hands too much trying to rehab career criminals. Do what China did to theirs.

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    Easy. China is always example #1 when an american speaks about a totalitarian state. The fact that this totalitarian state makes a yearly Human Rights Report that is 100% spot on on US is great and exposes US hypocrisy. And is hilarious
    Why would China need to make a report if you have all the facts? You can grade it by saying it's 100% spot on, yet what do you know about any of it?

    You're simply misled, you know it and you're pot committed to staying the course on this trainwreck of a claim.

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    Easy. China is always example #1 when an american speaks about a totalitarian state. The fact that this totalitarian state makes a yearly Human Rights Report that is 100% spot on on US is great and exposes US hypocrisy. And is hilarious
    Are you even American? Are you Russian?

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    You're not using the word "criminalizing" correctly. The drugs are illegal, they aren't criminalized. Criminalizing is something you do to the act of using or selling drugs. The drugs themselves are simply banned.

    Assume for sake of arguendo that no drugs were illegal so there was no money to be made smuggling and distributing them under the radar/off the grid. Where would the easy money be then? I'm sure you can think of a few things, like pros ution (hey, legalize that too), stolen cars (legalize stealing cars), chop shops with stolen auto parts (legalize that as well). So we legalize everthing, no one is breaking the law. Now we have no in in jail and you cannot have a society of normal day to day life. That's the extreme, but you seem to think if you just legalize the soft stuff that the same people wouldn't look for the next quick score.

    The answer isn't to stop putting Jr in timeout when he acts out. It's to make a stiffer penalty. We wring our hands too much trying to rehab career criminals. Do what China did to theirs.
    yeah, yeah... slippery slope, etc

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    That's no way to talk about us after we saved them from the Japs tbh

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    yeah, yeah... slippery slope, etc
    Don't let him off the hook that easily counselor. He has a critical flaw in his argument in that he is only focusing on the distribution side.

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    Why would China need to make a report if you have all the facts? You can grade it by saying it's 100% spot on, yet what do you know about any of it?

    You're simply misled, you know it and you're pot committed to staying the course on this trainwreck of a claim.
    I read the report. Its 100% spot on. Thats what makes this funny

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    Are you even American? Are you Russian?
    Are you one of those re s that believe the Russian boogeyman Bull ??

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